Re: [bolger] Re: More of My Drawings, Critique Still Welcome
Thanks, they are rough, my whole point, I was really poor at the time and had
to do my stuff on the fly in a notebook, didnt even have a car.
I had actually read all those books by then. And then discarded the knowledge.
I went w/ a french sculputor instead who said that the 'design' is in the
mahogony block trying to come out (paraphrasing, he said the chick is in the
stone...) So I made all the profiles to transfer to wood blocks, and then get
the rest of the ship out with chisels and files and sandpaper.
One of the classics of naval design is the "The Junks and Sampans of the
Yangtze" and there isnt a single draughting mark in it. You know its a good
book cuz it costs over 175$$, in fact thats where I got all my lorcha ideas.
But thanks, really
John
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to do my stuff on the fly in a notebook, didnt even have a car.
I had actually read all those books by then. And then discarded the knowledge.
I went w/ a french sculputor instead who said that the 'design' is in the
mahogony block trying to come out (paraphrasing, he said the chick is in the
stone...) So I made all the profiles to transfer to wood blocks, and then get
the rest of the ship out with chisels and files and sandpaper.
One of the classics of naval design is the "The Junks and Sampans of the
Yangtze" and there isnt a single draughting mark in it. You know its a good
book cuz it costs over 175$$, in fact thats where I got all my lorcha ideas.
But thanks, really
John
--- Howard Stephenson <stephensonhw@...> wrote:
>=====
> It's not easy to make meaningful comments, John. For a start, your
> drawings show no or very few dimensions -- length, beam, draft,
> displacement, sail area, power etc. Learning and using a CAD program
> would no doubt help as would reading books that give a theoretical
> basis to your design efforts e.g. Skene's Elements of Yacht Design
> and Chapelle's Yacht Design and Planning. A great little book is John
> Teale's "Designing Small Craft". It's advertised 2nd-hand at:
>http://www.columbiatrading.com/cgi-bin/columbia/1649.html
> ... for $35, quite a lot for a 135-page book, but it covers the
> basics (although there is nothing about CAD) in a very readable
> style, with lots of interesting drawings of Teale's own designs for
> sailand power boats in a variety of materials and sizes up to about
> 30'
>
> Howard
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John van V." <john_van_v@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again,
> >
> > More picts:http://tinyurl.com/3tzzz
> >
>
>
>
>
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It's not easy to make meaningful comments, John. For a start, your
drawings show no or very few dimensions -- length, beam, draft,
displacement, sail area, power etc. Learning and using a CAD program
would no doubt help as would reading books that give a theoretical
basis to your design efforts e.g. Skene's Elements of Yacht Design
and Chapelle's Yacht Design and Planning. A great little book is John
Teale's "Designing Small Craft". It's advertised 2nd-hand at:
http://www.columbiatrading.com/cgi-bin/columbia/1649.html
... for $35, quite a lot for a 135-page book, but it covers the
basics (although there is nothing about CAD) in a very readable
style, with lots of interesting drawings of Teale's own designs for
sailand power boats in a variety of materials and sizes up to about
30'
Howard
drawings show no or very few dimensions -- length, beam, draft,
displacement, sail area, power etc. Learning and using a CAD program
would no doubt help as would reading books that give a theoretical
basis to your design efforts e.g. Skene's Elements of Yacht Design
and Chapelle's Yacht Design and Planning. A great little book is John
Teale's "Designing Small Craft". It's advertised 2nd-hand at:
http://www.columbiatrading.com/cgi-bin/columbia/1649.html
... for $35, quite a lot for a 135-page book, but it covers the
basics (although there is nothing about CAD) in a very readable
style, with lots of interesting drawings of Teale's own designs for
sailand power boats in a variety of materials and sizes up to about
30'
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John van V." <john_van_v@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> More picts:http://tinyurl.com/3tzzz
>
Hi again,
More picts:http://tinyurl.com/3tzzz
I got 160 views of my pictures, which surprised even me !!
So I uploaded more of the note-book sketches, boats I like a lot.
More Lorchas, some odd staysail and genoa schooners, dories, and something like
the black skimmer.
At the time I wanted the ability to design a ship w/ a clipper bow that wasnt
butt ugly. They came out pretty nice. You can use the sketches for windvanes
whatever :) if you want.
I wish I had the CAD they are using on bateau.com , then I would finish them
off in a hurry, rather than wait for a woodshop to do half-hulls
John
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More picts:http://tinyurl.com/3tzzz
I got 160 views of my pictures, which surprised even me !!
So I uploaded more of the note-book sketches, boats I like a lot.
More Lorchas, some odd staysail and genoa schooners, dories, and something like
the black skimmer.
At the time I wanted the ability to design a ship w/ a clipper bow that wasnt
butt ugly. They came out pretty nice. You can use the sketches for windvanes
whatever :) if you want.
I wish I had the CAD they are using on bateau.com , then I would finish them
off in a hurry, rather than wait for a woodshop to do half-hulls
John
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