Re: new Insolent 60 plans on Bolger3
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
Did
> I mention that a fellow with a big open field next to the lake
said I
> could build it at his place? Folks who might want to help would
have
> plenty of room to pitch a tent.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
David,
Where is this lake located? I would love to go down and spend a
week(preferably in the summer) and lend a hand,especially for that
big honking centerboard trunk/backbone assembly(yikes!)
The design appears to rely on some rather tight tolerances
and"perfect" construction techniques.No quick-n-dirty stuff here!
It would also give me an excellent opportunity to pass on to
you the secrets of the not-yet-famous hollowing technique :-)
I even travel with my own tools and would be more then
accommadating in helping to relieve your fridge/cooler of its liquid
burden.....
Have you a time frame for when the saw dust is to begin
flying? The sooner I know the better, as I have to book time off
from work way,way in advance.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, who would love to be at the launching party too when
the I-60 gets wet..............
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 08:26 PM, Nels wrote:
I mention that a fellow with a big open field next to the lake said I
could build it at his place? Folks who might want to help would have
plenty of room to pitch a tent.
YIBB,
David
> It may represent the epitime of their talentThis is not too far off from how PCB has himself describe the I60. Did
> and resourcefulness.
I mention that a fellow with a big open field next to the lake said I
could build it at his place? Folks who might want to help would have
plenty of room to pitch a tent.
YIBB,
David
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
A set of plans would be nice, but you should offer them to Bruce
Hallman and he will build you a model:-)
I was thinking more of something to hang on the wall as a tribute to
the genious of PCB&F. It may represent the epitime of their talent
and resourcefulness.
Together with Micro, AS29, Birdwatcher, Microtrawler and Rose.
Cheers, Nels
> If my understanding is correct, the rudder retracts into the wellThanks, I can see now how it levers upwards on a double pivot.
> How about a finished set of builder's plans!
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
A set of plans would be nice, but you should offer them to Bruce
Hallman and he will build you a model:-)
I was thinking more of something to hang on the wall as a tribute to
the genious of PCB&F. It may represent the epitime of their talent
and resourcefulness.
Together with Micro, AS29, Birdwatcher, Microtrawler and Rose.
Cheers, Nels
> I haven't taken a square to the plans, but it looks like theforemast
> tabernacle is normal to the leading edge of the center hull, andOn second look, yes, I see that. I missed it the first time. Well.
> should be easy to square to it.
so the probem is REALLY building the skew bow transmom. :)
> What would the difficulty be?That you would wake up in the night screaming.
Peter
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 04:55 PM, Nels wrote:
to pull all the strings off rather than trying to keep them from
tangling when everything is packed up.
cruise with two adults.
large(r) hull during construction, greater trailer weight.
That said, I think that for the right person in the right
circumstances, a very large/simple sharpie schooner would give you very
nice boat for not very much money. If you weren't concerned with
pulling the boat out of the water, you could go a little wider with a
little higher cabin and end up with very gracious accommodations for
two Keep the keel to make her stiff and fast, but shallow water
capable. The ultimate liveaboard gunkholer!
YIBB,
David
>If my understanding is correct, the rudder retracts into the well
> 1. I am wondering how strong the rudder skeg can be made in case of a
> possible grounding or getting banged around in a rocky shallows?
> 2. Where do all the sails, rigging, booms, gaffs and strings etc. endInside main hull. Experience with the LSME suggests it's quick/easier
> up when the boat is folded? And how is it all kept in order?
to pull all the strings off rather than trying to keep them from
tangling when everything is packed up.
> 3. How large a trailer is required to move it?3 axle with about a 5-6 ton capacity.
> 4. What would be the cost of such a trailer, as well as the totalRoughly the same as a new VW station wagon.
> cost of the rig and motor and all the assorted paraphenealia that go
> with a boat this size?
> 5. How many crew to realistically go sailing for any distance? ILooking to the BDS as an example, she should be a reasonable boat to
> expect the answer is two but I am wondering...
cruise with two adults.
>Special trailer permits, space to build it, the need to move/turn a
> It looks incredibly fast and an engineering feat of vast proportions.
> But I wonder if it might be even better if it was built in one piece
> and moved with a 50 foot goosenck trailer?
large(r) hull during construction, greater trailer weight.
That said, I think that for the right person in the right
circumstances, a very large/simple sharpie schooner would give you very
nice boat for not very much money. If you weren't concerned with
pulling the boat out of the water, you could go a little wider with a
little higher cabin and end up with very gracious accommodations for
two Keep the keel to make her stiff and fast, but shallow water
capable. The ultimate liveaboard gunkholer!
> I would love to see an artists depiction done, like the one of MicroHow about a finished set of builder's plans!
> that appeared several years ago. And a set of study plans. Just as
> collectors items. Bet a lot of boat nuts would fork out for such a
> thing.
YIBB,
David
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...>
wrote:
length of time poses the possibility of completely blowing up what
few remaining brain cells I still have:-)
The Ultimate Swiss Army Knife!
A few observations and questions come to mind.
1. I am wondering how strong the rudder skeg can be made in case of a
possible grounding or getting banged around in a rocky shallows?
2. Where do all the sails, rigging, booms, gaffs and strings etc. end
up when the boat is folded? And how is it all kept in order?
3. How large a trailer is required to move it?
4. What would be the cost of such a trailer, as well as the total
cost of the rig and motor and all the assorted paraphenealia that go
with a boat this size?
5. How many crew to realistically go sailing for any distance? I
expect the answer is two but I am wondering...
It looks incredibly fast and an engineering feat of vast proportions.
But I wonder if it might be even better if it was built in one piece
and moved with a 50 foot goosenck trailer?
I would love to see an artists depiction done, like the one of Micro
that appeared several years ago. And a set of study plans. Just as
collectors items. Bet a lot of boat nuts would fork out for such a
thing.
Cheers, Nels
wrote:
>There is a real danger here that looking at this design for any
> If you get through the construction of that offset foremast
> tablernacle with a good humor, you will be doing well.
>
> Peter
length of time poses the possibility of completely blowing up what
few remaining brain cells I still have:-)
The Ultimate Swiss Army Knife!
A few observations and questions come to mind.
1. I am wondering how strong the rudder skeg can be made in case of a
possible grounding or getting banged around in a rocky shallows?
2. Where do all the sails, rigging, booms, gaffs and strings etc. end
up when the boat is folded? And how is it all kept in order?
3. How large a trailer is required to move it?
4. What would be the cost of such a trailer, as well as the total
cost of the rig and motor and all the assorted paraphenealia that go
with a boat this size?
5. How many crew to realistically go sailing for any distance? I
expect the answer is two but I am wondering...
It looks incredibly fast and an engineering feat of vast proportions.
But I wonder if it might be even better if it was built in one piece
and moved with a 50 foot goosenck trailer?
I would love to see an artists depiction done, like the one of Micro
that appeared several years ago. And a set of study plans. Just as
collectors items. Bet a lot of boat nuts would fork out for such a
thing.
Cheers, Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@y...> wrote:
tabernacle is normal to the leading edge of the center hull, and
should be easy to square to it. What would the difficulty be?
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>I haven't taken a square to the plans, but it looks like the foremast
> If you get through the construction of that offset foremast
> tablernacle with a good humor, you will be doing well.
tabernacle is normal to the leading edge of the center hull, and
should be easy to square to it. What would the difficulty be?
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
If you get through the construction of that offset foremast
tablernacle with a good humor, you will be doing well.
Peter
tablernacle with a good humor, you will be doing well.
Peter
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Waters" <dgw@d...> wrote:
--
Susan <futabachan@...>
> Susan, could you repost the images to a 'Files' section please?They're on Bolger3 now.
--
Susan <futabachan@...>
Susan, could you repost the images to a 'Files' section please? Yahoo's
irritating 'Photos' system allows only the original poster to view the
images at their original size. For the rest of us, all of Garth's scanner
work is being reduced to 260 pixels high :(
Thanks
Derek
irritating 'Photos' system allows only the original poster to view the
images at their original size. For the rest of us, all of Garth's scanner
work is being reduced to 260 pixels high :(
Thanks
Derek
A much better scan of the April 2004 draft of the I60, including the
sail plan and interior layout, is on Bolger3 in the Photos section.
Many thanks to the Batistas for their hospitality, and for Garth's
patience with the scanner.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
sail plan and interior layout, is on Bolger3 in the Photos section.
Many thanks to the Batistas for their hospitality, and for Garth's
patience with the scanner.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>