Re: [bolger] Re: launching
> Bruce,Embarassing was all. No damage done, and twice the time
> I am so sorry for the mishap, that's embarassing to say the least.
> David Jost
was lost talking about it, over the simple task of pushing
the boat in the water with my SUV.
Its a funny thing about building a boat,
in that I feel a sense of liberation that almost anything
I can break; I know how to fix. All the spectators were
horrified at the prosect of damage tot he boat, and I felt
"Hey, what the heck, its mostly Home Depot lumber."
Also, I am glad to have mounted UHMW skid strips on each
chine and the keel, which made the task of pushing the boat
on the rough launch ramp easier.
[Probably reduced friction causing the premature launch too.]
Other thoughts about the boat, my tiller arm needs to be
remade with a crook, so that it rests at just the right
height for ergonomic comfort. Also, the height of the seats
is perhaps two inches low for perfect vision out in the forward
direction, though sitting on a pillow is a simple fix.
Stepping the mast wasn't a problem.
And...I hope and expect that the task of sorting out all
the lines and rigging will get more familiar with practice.
Congratulations!
Anxiously awaiting those photos!
Rick
Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
the first launch of my Micro Navigator,
today, Christmas Day 2004 [photo's to follow].
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Anxiously awaiting those photos!
Rick
Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
the first launch of my Micro Navigator,
today, Christmas Day 2004 [photo's to follow].
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Bruce,
I am so sorry for the mishap, that's embarassing to say the least.
I feel as if I should come and touch up the scratched paint for you.
I failed to mention that I never removed the safety chain connecting
boat to trailer until the boat was in the water, thereby eliminating
the possibility of premature launch.
I used to own a Triad trailer that had a 10'x 1.5" square tongue
that resided inside a 2" square tube when not in use. To use it,
you removed two capitive pins from the trailer, pulled forward, and
set the pins in their new holes. This still was not easy as you had
to very carefully line up the pin holes, which took quite a bit of
time.
Trailer boating has its advantages and disadvantages.
David Jost
I am so sorry for the mishap, that's embarassing to say the least.
I feel as if I should come and touch up the scratched paint for you.
I failed to mention that I never removed the safety chain connecting
boat to trailer until the boat was in the water, thereby eliminating
the possibility of premature launch.
I used to own a Triad trailer that had a 10'x 1.5" square tongue
that resided inside a 2" square tube when not in use. To use it,
you removed two capitive pins from the trailer, pulled forward, and
set the pins in their new holes. This still was not easy as you had
to very carefully line up the pin holes, which took quite a bit of
time.
Trailer boating has its advantages and disadvantages.
David Jost
>trailer
> It worked, but I came to a little grief as the hull slid off the
> about six feet short of the water landing with a bump on theramp. A
> crowd gathered offering advice, unsolicited of course. Both the
>
Good Idea, I suppose you could, if making the trailer from scratch, add
some sort of telescopic extension to the tow bar and do as you describe
except that the bar would just slide out from the existing tow bar.
Sounds good in thought, but is probably full of holes I suppose.
This has got some good ideas flowing though.....thanks.
John Blake
some sort of telescopic extension to the tow bar and do as you describe
except that the bar would just slide out from the existing tow bar.
Sounds good in thought, but is probably full of holes I suppose.
This has got some good ideas flowing though.....thanks.
John Blake
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:21:15 -0000, dnjost <djost@...> wrote:
>
>
> John - I wish I had some photos of how we did this. I was able to launch
> on shallow ramps with little effort apart from time to rig the launching
> bar. 1. block the wheels on the trailer
> 2. lower the tongue wheel (buy a good one, don't skimp here!)
> 3. detach the car from the trailer and pull up about 10'
> 4. attach a 10' long bar (I used two laminated 2X4's, similar to making
> the mast) I lashed one end to the trailer frame and had a tow couple on
> the other end. 4. remove the blocks from the trailer wheel and back down
> the ramp. Micro will float right off.
>
> Retrieving is the opposite. Hindsight is always 20/20 as I realize I
> could have accomplished the same thing with a 10' length of steel chain
> since the trailer is always putting pressure on the linkage due to the
> slope of the ramp. This is a two man/woman job.
>
> Happy Sailing,
> David Jost
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, John Blake <vk6jrb@p...> wrote:
>> I have a question about launching/retrieving a micro, is this easy
> enough
>> to do or do you need to submerge half the car to do it.
>> Just wondering as the micro draws about 1'9" and thought this may
> be a
>> problem.
>>
>> -- John Blake
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Depends on the ramp. If yours is graded wrongly, consider the Bolger 'winch" method
recently discussed.
Mark
John Blake wrote:
recently discussed.
Mark
John Blake wrote:
>
> I have a question about launching/retrieving a micro, is this easy enough
> to do or do you need to submerge half the car to do it.
> Just wondering as the micro draws about 1'9" and thought this may be a
> problem.
>
>
> I could have accomplished the same thing withI tried this chain method, with the first launch of my Micro Navigator,
> a 10' length of steel chain .
> David Jost
today, Christmas Day 2004 [photo's to follow].
It worked, but I came to a little grief as the hull slid off the trailer
about six feet short of the water landing with a bump on the ramp. A
crowd gathered offering advice, unsolicited of course. Both the
harbormasters came around, more excited than me, though one called
my boat 'cute'.
All it took was a small push with the front bumper of my SUV,
and Micro Navigator 'Rose' slipped in the water and floated easily.
Another semi-crowd gathered on retrieval. I did the standard method
'on the hitch ball' retreival [no chain]. This worked great, no problem,
floating on etc. Also the ramp was very slimey, but my All Wheel
Drive Ford Explorer had no trouble what-so-ever.
[The two wheel drive pickup next to me was smoking his tires.]
I have a slightly longer than usual trailer tongue, measuring 16 feet
from axle to ball hitch.
I attempted to leave rigging in place, before striking the masts
in my driveway, but the lines got tangled. I was short of time [before
sunset] to straighten out the mess, so I just motored around the
harbor and out into the Pacific Ocean briefly, total time afloat about one
hour. I will try out the sails next time, the biggest reason for todays
launch was to verify that the hull had no leaks, [it didn't], [even after being
dropped on the ramp]. Also I was not totally sure about the trailer,
without a 'road test'. It passed the road test, pretty good, but I want
a better tongue wheel, and need to trim off a bit of machine bolt which
scrapes bottom a little bit.
She handled fine, but a 9.9 hp motor is oversized, hull speed being
at just a fast idle, and while docking I wished for a 'slower' gear as
the hull has a good bit of momentum. I am not sure how to judge
whether she floated correctly on her waterline, but I guess it was fine.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, John Blake <vk6jrb@p...> wrote:
steep ramp and place two large plastic drums (held together by a
rope)under the stern. As the Micro and trailer backs into the water
the two drums lift the stern and I push her off. However I only
have to do this once or twice a year because I keep the boat on a
mooring ($250/annum) so I can be out sailing within an hour,
Cheers,
John Mann
I have a question about launching/retrieving a micro, is this easy
enough
> John,I found it quite a pain to launch and retrieve the micro. I use a
steep ramp and place two large plastic drums (held together by a
rope)under the stern. As the Micro and trailer backs into the water
the two drums lift the stern and I push her off. However I only
have to do this once or twice a year because I keep the boat on a
mooring ($250/annum) so I can be out sailing within an hour,
Cheers,
John Mann
I have a question about launching/retrieving a micro, is this easy
enough
> to do or do you need to submerge half the car to do it.be a
> Just wondering as the micro draws about 1'9" and thought this may
> problem.http://www.opera.com/m2/
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> John Blake
> vk6jrb@p...
> 0429 674296
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John -
I wish I had some photos of how we did this. I was able to launch
on shallow ramps with little effort apart from time to rig the
launching bar.
1. block the wheels on the trailer
2. lower the tongue wheel (buy a good one, don't skimp here!)
3. detach the car from the trailer and pull up about 10'
4. attach a 10' long bar (I used two laminated 2X4's, similar to
making the mast) I lashed one end to the trailer frame and had a tow
couple on the other end.
4. remove the blocks from the trailer wheel and back down the ramp.
Micro will float right off.
Retrieving is the opposite. Hindsight is always 20/20 as I realize I
could have accomplished the same thing with a 10' length of steel
chain since the trailer is always putting pressure on the linkage
due to the slope of the ramp. This is a two man/woman job.
Happy Sailing,
David Jost
I wish I had some photos of how we did this. I was able to launch
on shallow ramps with little effort apart from time to rig the
launching bar.
1. block the wheels on the trailer
2. lower the tongue wheel (buy a good one, don't skimp here!)
3. detach the car from the trailer and pull up about 10'
4. attach a 10' long bar (I used two laminated 2X4's, similar to
making the mast) I lashed one end to the trailer frame and had a tow
couple on the other end.
4. remove the blocks from the trailer wheel and back down the ramp.
Micro will float right off.
Retrieving is the opposite. Hindsight is always 20/20 as I realize I
could have accomplished the same thing with a 10' length of steel
chain since the trailer is always putting pressure on the linkage
due to the slope of the ramp. This is a two man/woman job.
Happy Sailing,
David Jost
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, John Blake <vk6jrb@p...> wrote:
> I have a question about launching/retrieving a micro, is this easy
enough
> to do or do you need to submerge half the car to do it.
> Just wondering as the micro draws about 1'9" and thought this may
be a
> problem.
>
> --
> John Blake
> vk6jrb@p...
> 0429 674296
>
> Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:
http://www.opera.com/m2/
I have a question about launching/retrieving a micro, is this easy enough
to do or do you need to submerge half the car to do it.
Just wondering as the micro draws about 1'9" and thought this may be a
problem.
--
John Blake
vk6jrb@...
0429 674296
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/m2/
to do or do you need to submerge half the car to do it.
Just wondering as the micro draws about 1'9" and thought this may be a
problem.
--
John Blake
vk6jrb@...
0429 674296
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/m2/