Re: [bolger] Re: black skimmer plans

I would like that info also

HJ

dbaldnz wrote:

>A thought Michael, if you are very keen let me know, I can get the
>email address of the 2nd owner I talked to, and you could go to him
>directly. He is a very experienced sailor and Bolger builder,
>DonB
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
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>>Michael, it was a one-off. Sadly the boat was sold and gone somewhere
>>else, and I can't take photos anymore.
>>But the board case was about a third into the cabin from memory, and
>>two-thirds under the 'bridge' and cockpit. There was a small winch on
>>top of the bridge just outside the cockpit. And a later owner said she
>>sailed really well, I think much better to windward with the c'board.
>>DonB
>>
>>
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A thought Michael, if you are very keen let me know, I can get the
email address of the 2nd owner I talked to, and you could go to him
directly. He is a very experienced sailor and Bolger builder,
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
>
> Michael, it was a one-off. Sadly the boat was sold and gone somewhere
> else, and I can't take photos anymore.
> But the board case was about a third into the cabin from memory, and
> two-thirds under the 'bridge' and cockpit. There was a small winch on
> top of the bridge just outside the cockpit. And a later owner said she
> sailed really well, I think much better to windward with the c'board.
> DonB
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Kline" <kura1in2@m...> wrote:
> > Don,
> >
> > Is there a design variant with a centerboard or was this a "one-off"?
> >
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: dbaldnz<mailto:oink@w...>
> > To:bolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:42 AM
> > Subject: [bolger] Re: black skimmer plans
> >
> >
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> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>,
> Bruce Hallman <bruce@h<mailto:bruce@h>...> wrote:
> > > > I am still not sure, but now I can get a better picture
> > > > of what the cabin volume is like...not much.
> > >
> > > While it has only 'sitting height', the Black Skimmer
> > > cabin seems pretty big to me! Tons of storage below
> > > the cockpit seats too. Nice double berth too.
> > >
> > >
>
http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif<http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif>
> >
> > I have sat in one. I would describe it as snug but roomy if that
makes
> > sense. In no way unpleasant, and this was a centreboard version.
> > The cockpit is loooooong.
> > DonB
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Michael, it was a one-off. Sadly the boat was sold and gone somewhere
else, and I can't take photos anymore.
But the board case was about a third into the cabin from memory, and
two-thirds under the 'bridge' and cockpit. There was a small winch on
top of the bridge just outside the cockpit. And a later owner said she
sailed really well, I think much better to windward with the c'board.
DonB

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Kline" <kura1in2@m...> wrote:
> Don,
>
> Is there a design variant with a centerboard or was this a "one-off"?
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dbaldnz<mailto:oink@w...>
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:42 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: black skimmer plans
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>,
Bruce Hallman <bruce@h<mailto:bruce@h>...> wrote:
> > > I am still not sure, but now I can get a better picture
> > > of what the cabin volume is like...not much.
> >
> > While it has only 'sitting height', the Black Skimmer
> > cabin seems pretty big to me! Tons of storage below
> > the cockpit seats too. Nice double berth too.
> >
> >
http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif<http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif>
>
> I have sat in one. I would describe it as snug but roomy if that makes
> sense. In no way unpleasant, and this was a centreboard version.
> The cockpit is loooooong.
> DonB
>
>
>
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Chas Andrews Black Skimmer at

http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/bskimmer.htm

uses concrete for the ballast, I would like to know more about that if
anybody has seen it.

Black Skimmer on my short list of boats, one of which I plan to start
next fall.

HJ

Joe Nelson wrote:

>I ordered the BS plans from Payson...what a bargain! When I ordered
>I was thinking that it was just to verify that the BS was not going
>to meet my needs...since I like the lines of her so much I had to
>make sure. I am still not sure, but now I can get a better picture
>of what the cabin volume is like...not much.
>
>The center plates talked about are for ballast and are layed down
>horizontally in the bilge amidship...not as a centerboard. Sounds
>like someone from Oz modified for a centerboard but there is not much
>room in the cabin as it is.
>
>It is going to be about 6 months or longer until I can get started.
>I am still working on a Core Sound 20 and my wife wants a stripper
>canoe. I will grant her wish as it is smart to keep the wives
>interested in boating.
>
>Anyone know of a BS in the NW USA that I could see?
>
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I stumbled across this photo of Col. H.G. Hassler
in on old Small Boat Journal magazine.

His head is popping up from the hatch.
That boat has some similar qualities to a
submarine.

http://hallman.org/jester.jpg
Don,

Is there a design variant with a centerboard or was this a "one-off"?

Mike
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Subject: [bolger] Re: black skimmer plans



--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h<mailto:bruce@h>...> wrote:
> > I am still not sure, but now I can get a better picture
> > of what the cabin volume is like...not much.
>
> While it has only 'sitting height', the Black Skimmer
> cabin seems pretty big to me! Tons of storage below
> the cockpit seats too. Nice double berth too.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif<http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif>

I have sat in one. I would describe it as snug but roomy if that makes
sense. In no way unpleasant, and this was a centreboard version.
The cockpit is loooooong.
DonB





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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > I am still not sure, but now I can get a better picture
> > of what the cabin volume is like...not much.
>
> While it has only 'sitting height', the Black Skimmer
> cabin seems pretty big to me! Tons of storage below
> the cockpit seats too. Nice double berth too.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif

I have sat in one. I would describe it as snug but roomy if that makes
sense. In no way unpleasant, and this was a centreboard version.
The cockpit is loooooong.
DonB
> I am still not sure, but now I can get a better picture
> of what the cabin volume is like...not much.

While it has only 'sitting height', the Black Skimmer
cabin seems pretty big to me! Tons of storage below
the cockpit seats too. Nice double berth too.

http://hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer/photo6.gif
I ordered the BS plans from Payson...what a bargain! When I ordered
I was thinking that it was just to verify that the BS was not going
to meet my needs...since I like the lines of her so much I had to
make sure. I am still not sure, but now I can get a better picture
of what the cabin volume is like...not much.

The center plates talked about are for ballast and are layed down
horizontally in the bilge amidship...not as a centerboard. Sounds
like someone from Oz modified for a centerboard but there is not much
room in the cabin as it is.

It is going to be about 6 months or longer until I can get started.
I am still working on a Core Sound 20 and my wife wants a stripper
canoe. I will grant her wish as it is smart to keep the wives
interested in boating.

Anyone know of a BS in the NW USA that I could see?