Re: [bolger] Fast Brick Progress Report
Jon--There are a lot of ways to do it, but as a builder who works alone, I find that rolling the hull is a major task and I do it as infrequently as possible. If Fast Brick's hull is currently upside, I'd go ahead and paint it before rolling it upright and finishing the interior. Conversely, if the hull is currently rightside up, I'd do the interior first. If you have help, and assuming that rolling a 12 ft boat is easier than rolling a 19 ft boat, it probably doesn't matter.
John T
John T
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Subject: [bolger] Fast Brick Progress Report
There seems to be some interest in seeing progress on my FastBrick
project (stretched to 12' version). I have been grabbing
construction photos along the way, but I don't have them organized
yet, and it will be a bit before I'm ready to post them.
BTW, I said "almost-ready-for-paint" but not "almost finished." I'm
debating whether to paint the hull or a least prime it before I go to
work on the interior. Any thoughts from the group on that issue are
of course appreciated.
As it sits right now, the hull is sheathed, but needs sanding and
some fairing. The interior is bare at the moment, but the interior
bulkheads, foam, and other details should go somewhat faster than the
box forefoot and sheathing. Partly this is because I sheathed the
bottom separately from the sides, since past projects have taught me
that getting good saturation of glass cloth on vertical surfaces is
difficult and can waste a lot of expensive epoxy. For this boat, I
sheathed the bottom with some overlap of the sides at the chines,
built the box forefoot and filleted and sheathed that, then turned
the boat up on its side to sheath the opposite side, and vice-versa.
Seems to be working out, and it's soooo much easier to saturate the
cloth on a horizontal surface. Other builders might consider
sheathing the panels before assembly, but I was reluctant to try
that.
Because the work only gets done on weekends at my shop in an inter-
mountain basin in Colorado, about an hour's drive from home, it's the
classic "hurry up and wait for the epoxy to cure" problem. The shop
gets cold at night, and even though I get it toasty warm with a
woodstove while I'm there, and use fast hardener, the epoxy isn't
ready for any kind of sanding or other work until the following
weekend. Sunshine during the week makes a big difference, since the
garage doors on the shop face south and radiate heat into the lightly
insulated building. It will be interesting to see if there are any
problems with the boat after this very slow cure of the glue due to
the cold conditions it was built under. Fortunately, there is a
large reservoir with occasional howling wind and nasty chop a few
miles away from the shop on which to test her out, hopefully this
Spring.
To make it worthwhile to stay up there and keep the stove going all
day while epoxy is curing on the FastBrick, it made sense to build an
8' Tortoise at the same time, since I wanted it to nest inside the
FastBrick anyway. The Tortoise is in paint stage now, and I should
have photos of that up soon. I added end decks and came up with a
straddle seat solution that works with these decks that some of you
may find interesting, so I'll try to get those pics up presently.
I'm contemplating an Oughtred Whilly Boat and a Michilak Toto for the
next "keep busy while the glue dries" project.
In case you're wondering why I don't build these small boats in my
garage, it's because I needed room to build the 50-footer they will
tend. So, we found some cheap grassland in this basin, and put up a
small shop for tools and materials. Quiet and mostly isolated, snow-
capped 14'ers in the distance with only Pronghorn and cattle for
company (and a few birds, coyotes, mice, and such), I can't get
enough of the place. At about 8800' elevation, people often
ask "You're building a boat up there? What do you know that we
don't?" My garage now has cars in it, which has taken some getting
used to.
If you read Bolger's MAIB article about the cat schooner variation of
the Light Schooner that I built (it appeared, I guess, about 6 or 8
months ago?), you might have noticed that he mentioned working on a
large cruiser design for us that would have two identical masts and
sails. Actually, it's a double sloop rig, but we talk about it like
it's a schooner. We are now almost four years into that design, but
at present I have no idea when they will finish the plans (talk about
needing patience!). I'm still staring at two small proposal drawings
every day while we wait for more details.
Stand by for more updates in the near future.
Jon Kolb
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There seems to be some interest in seeing progress on my FastBrick
project (stretched to 12' version). I have been grabbing
construction photos along the way, but I don't have them organized
yet, and it will be a bit before I'm ready to post them.
BTW, I said "almost-ready-for-paint" but not "almost finished." I'm
debating whether to paint the hull or a least prime it before I go to
work on the interior. Any thoughts from the group on that issue are
of course appreciated.
As it sits right now, the hull is sheathed, but needs sanding and
some fairing. The interior is bare at the moment, but the interior
bulkheads, foam, and other details should go somewhat faster than the
box forefoot and sheathing. Partly this is because I sheathed the
bottom separately from the sides, since past projects have taught me
that getting good saturation of glass cloth on vertical surfaces is
difficult and can waste a lot of expensive epoxy. For this boat, I
sheathed the bottom with some overlap of the sides at the chines,
built the box forefoot and filleted and sheathed that, then turned
the boat up on its side to sheath the opposite side, and vice-versa.
Seems to be working out, and it's soooo much easier to saturate the
cloth on a horizontal surface. Other builders might consider
sheathing the panels before assembly, but I was reluctant to try
that.
Because the work only gets done on weekends at my shop in an inter-
mountain basin in Colorado, about an hour's drive from home, it's the
classic "hurry up and wait for the epoxy to cure" problem. The shop
gets cold at night, and even though I get it toasty warm with a
woodstove while I'm there, and use fast hardener, the epoxy isn't
ready for any kind of sanding or other work until the following
weekend. Sunshine during the week makes a big difference, since the
garage doors on the shop face south and radiate heat into the lightly
insulated building. It will be interesting to see if there are any
problems with the boat after this very slow cure of the glue due to
the cold conditions it was built under. Fortunately, there is a
large reservoir with occasional howling wind and nasty chop a few
miles away from the shop on which to test her out, hopefully this
Spring.
To make it worthwhile to stay up there and keep the stove going all
day while epoxy is curing on the FastBrick, it made sense to build an
8' Tortoise at the same time, since I wanted it to nest inside the
FastBrick anyway. The Tortoise is in paint stage now, and I should
have photos of that up soon. I added end decks and came up with a
straddle seat solution that works with these decks that some of you
may find interesting, so I'll try to get those pics up presently.
I'm contemplating an Oughtred Whilly Boat and a Michilak Toto for the
next "keep busy while the glue dries" project.
In case you're wondering why I don't build these small boats in my
garage, it's because I needed room to build the 50-footer they will
tend. So, we found some cheap grassland in this basin, and put up a
small shop for tools and materials. Quiet and mostly isolated, snow-
capped 14'ers in the distance with only Pronghorn and cattle for
company (and a few birds, coyotes, mice, and such), I can't get
enough of the place. At about 8800' elevation, people often
ask "You're building a boat up there? What do you know that we
don't?" My garage now has cars in it, which has taken some getting
used to.
If you read Bolger's MAIB article about the cat schooner variation of
the Light Schooner that I built (it appeared, I guess, about 6 or 8
months ago?), you might have noticed that he mentioned working on a
large cruiser design for us that would have two identical masts and
sails. Actually, it's a double sloop rig, but we talk about it like
it's a schooner. We are now almost four years into that design, but
at present I have no idea when they will finish the plans (talk about
needing patience!). I'm still staring at two small proposal drawings
every day while we wait for more details.
Stand by for more updates in the near future.
Jon Kolb
project (stretched to 12' version). I have been grabbing
construction photos along the way, but I don't have them organized
yet, and it will be a bit before I'm ready to post them.
BTW, I said "almost-ready-for-paint" but not "almost finished." I'm
debating whether to paint the hull or a least prime it before I go to
work on the interior. Any thoughts from the group on that issue are
of course appreciated.
As it sits right now, the hull is sheathed, but needs sanding and
some fairing. The interior is bare at the moment, but the interior
bulkheads, foam, and other details should go somewhat faster than the
box forefoot and sheathing. Partly this is because I sheathed the
bottom separately from the sides, since past projects have taught me
that getting good saturation of glass cloth on vertical surfaces is
difficult and can waste a lot of expensive epoxy. For this boat, I
sheathed the bottom with some overlap of the sides at the chines,
built the box forefoot and filleted and sheathed that, then turned
the boat up on its side to sheath the opposite side, and vice-versa.
Seems to be working out, and it's soooo much easier to saturate the
cloth on a horizontal surface. Other builders might consider
sheathing the panels before assembly, but I was reluctant to try
that.
Because the work only gets done on weekends at my shop in an inter-
mountain basin in Colorado, about an hour's drive from home, it's the
classic "hurry up and wait for the epoxy to cure" problem. The shop
gets cold at night, and even though I get it toasty warm with a
woodstove while I'm there, and use fast hardener, the epoxy isn't
ready for any kind of sanding or other work until the following
weekend. Sunshine during the week makes a big difference, since the
garage doors on the shop face south and radiate heat into the lightly
insulated building. It will be interesting to see if there are any
problems with the boat after this very slow cure of the glue due to
the cold conditions it was built under. Fortunately, there is a
large reservoir with occasional howling wind and nasty chop a few
miles away from the shop on which to test her out, hopefully this
Spring.
To make it worthwhile to stay up there and keep the stove going all
day while epoxy is curing on the FastBrick, it made sense to build an
8' Tortoise at the same time, since I wanted it to nest inside the
FastBrick anyway. The Tortoise is in paint stage now, and I should
have photos of that up soon. I added end decks and came up with a
straddle seat solution that works with these decks that some of you
may find interesting, so I'll try to get those pics up presently.
I'm contemplating an Oughtred Whilly Boat and a Michilak Toto for the
next "keep busy while the glue dries" project.
In case you're wondering why I don't build these small boats in my
garage, it's because I needed room to build the 50-footer they will
tend. So, we found some cheap grassland in this basin, and put up a
small shop for tools and materials. Quiet and mostly isolated, snow-
capped 14'ers in the distance with only Pronghorn and cattle for
company (and a few birds, coyotes, mice, and such), I can't get
enough of the place. At about 8800' elevation, people often
ask "You're building a boat up there? What do you know that we
don't?" My garage now has cars in it, which has taken some getting
used to.
If you read Bolger's MAIB article about the cat schooner variation of
the Light Schooner that I built (it appeared, I guess, about 6 or 8
months ago?), you might have noticed that he mentioned working on a
large cruiser design for us that would have two identical masts and
sails. Actually, it's a double sloop rig, but we talk about it like
it's a schooner. We are now almost four years into that design, but
at present I have no idea when they will finish the plans (talk about
needing patience!). I'm still staring at two small proposal drawings
every day while we wait for more details.
Stand by for more updates in the near future.
Jon Kolb