Re: new bolger website
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
Then there is ahh - the storage, care and
> usage of invisible rope. Some things will have to have restricted
> access I feel. Falling into the wrong hands could lead to psuedo-
> pirates giving the real ones a good name.
Goddamn yer eyes Sir and avast ye bullocks! Aye matey,theres' some
things,dark things,evil things better never spoken 'bout!Arrrrgh!
Invisible rope is not for the faint of heart nor the over-
challenged-under-priviledged-bellow-the-waistline crowd.No sirree!
One needs the constitution of a Grizzle bear and a level of
intestinal fortitude a magnitude greater then called for when base
jumping.Then,and only then,may one even contemplate entering into an
informed discussion and demonstration of this most wicked but highly
rewarding pirate practice. Perhaps one day I'll finally recieve
clearance from the authorities(Coast Guard etc) to publish a
manual.....something along the lines of,"Invisible Rope for Dummies"
It is a must have on board any vessel worthy the name!
>
> By the way did you notice that the thread about the Lenihan
charcoal
> heater was running for about two weeks before Peter showed up and
> asked what it was? Is this a bad omen or no cause for concern?
Yeah,I know....it has alot to do with my work schedule....that is
where I keep "my" computer :-)
>
> I am sort of worried that he may attempt to go home from work one
day
> and they will mistake him for one of residents trying to escape.
Never fear Nels! I've got the keys! Society need not worry about me
but their daughters.............:-D
Keep a good thought,fertheloveofgod!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan.....
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
I get a
> thrill whenever windows loads itself:-)
Hey, me too! Ain't it a nice feeling when that sort of thing
happens? Ain't technology great? I can't wait 'till I get me a real
digital watch so I can stop getting dizzy from watching the hands
go 'round-n-'round 'n 'round....
> Articles on the Lenihan charcoal stove, the Lenihan butt joint,
The
> Lenihan hollowed-no-squeeze-out-epoxy joint, the Lenihan Micro
Keel
> design, the Lenihan completely weatherproof sliding hatch design.
> Peter could fill up a CD with just one season's ramblings:-)
Oh Nels, I think I finally figured out what the Lenihan Butt-Joint
thingy is that you were talking about recently.It is the way I did
the bottom panels on the Micro,no? Let me know....I only have a few
neurons still up and running :-)
Summer should be here in the next few months..YIPPEE!!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
Back up is my concern, though Yahoo has faults, its free and they will
be there next year.
HJ
Bill Turnbull wrote:
be there next year.
HJ
Bill Turnbull wrote:
>Personally I think it would be a great place for us to place photos,
>design information and perhaps a message archive. so as to avoid
>Yahoos slow interface and useless search tool.
>
>I agree that the biggest risk is what if Tom leaves, specifcally, and
>God forbid, something happens to Tom then all of the data is lost. We
>face a similar risk here on bolger yahoo in that I believe that Gregg
>is the only moderator and therefore is the only one with
>administrative rights to the group. On another group, we have added
>several moderators so this risk has been minimized.
>
>I would suggest that if we start building Tom's site that at least one
>or two other people either have administrative rights or has some way
>of backing up the wiki so that it can continue in unfortunate
>circumstances.
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
wrote:
Yer right I forgot that. Then there is ahh - the storage, care and
usage of invisible rope. Some things will have to have restricted
access I feel. Falling into the wrong hands could lead to psuedo-
pirates giving the real ones a good name.
By the way did you notice that the thread about the Lenihan charcoal
heater was running for about two weeks before Peter showed up and
asked what it was? Is this a bad omen or no cause for concern?
I am sort of worried that he may attempt to go home from work one day
and they will mistake him for one of residents trying to escape. Not
that that would be a bad thing for society but we would lose a large
resource of box-building expertise!
Cheers, Nels
wrote:
> You forgot "Peter Lenihan's Basement" in TIMS, the not-so-secretcooler.
> forward thwart that just "happens" to conceal a full size beer
>Hi Bruce,
> Bruce Hector
Yer right I forgot that. Then there is ahh - the storage, care and
usage of invisible rope. Some things will have to have restricted
access I feel. Falling into the wrong hands could lead to psuedo-
pirates giving the real ones a good name.
By the way did you notice that the thread about the Lenihan charcoal
heater was running for about two weeks before Peter showed up and
asked what it was? Is this a bad omen or no cause for concern?
I am sort of worried that he may attempt to go home from work one day
and they will mistake him for one of residents trying to escape. Not
that that would be a bad thing for society but we would lose a large
resource of box-building expertise!
Cheers, Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote: "Articles
on the Lenihan charcoal stove, the Lenihan butt joint, The
forward thwart that just "happens" to conceal a full size beer cooler.
Bruce Hector
on the Lenihan charcoal stove, the Lenihan butt joint, The
> Lenihan hollowed-no-squeeze-out-epoxy joint, the Lenihan Micro KeelYou forgot "Peter Lenihan's Basement" in TIMS, the not-so-secret
> design,"
forward thwart that just "happens" to conceal a full size beer cooler.
Bruce Hector
If you can log in to the Yahoo Groups and upload files then you can do
on the new site too.
http://bolger.ohern.net/index.php/UpLoad
Its the same system, login, select file, click upload, done. The nice
part being that people don't have to search through 4-5 yahoo groups
to find a picture of one boat.
tom
on the new site too.
http://bolger.ohern.net/index.php/UpLoad
Its the same system, login, select file, click upload, done. The nice
part being that people don't have to search through 4-5 yahoo groups
to find a picture of one boat.
tom
> I belong to the Hector/Lenihan school of computer expertise. I get a
> thrill whenever windows loads itself:-)
>
> Would it be possible to be able to forward things in files and have
> somebody else load them up for some of us?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
wrote:
thrill whenever windows loads itself:-)
Would it be possible to be able to forward things in files and have
somebody else load them up for some of us?
The idea is very good and would work really well in conjuction with
this site. Having all the background information in one place and in
a consistent order would be invaluable and take some of the load off
Gregg as well. Then when a newbie joins, it would not be necessary to
start all over again pointing where the files and photos are.
Ideally at some point it could be self-supporting in that
documentation could be sold on CD's or DVD. This could include back
archives from MAIB and videos like Bjorn's and I am sure many others
once the new DVD cams come down in price a bit.(These are camcorders
that record directly to DVD.)
Also there could be archived notable posts that have appeared here in
the past. Well we all know what would be important.
Articles on the Lenihan charcoal stove, the Lenihan butt joint, The
Lenihan hollowed-no-squeeze-out-epoxy joint, the Lenihan Micro Keel
design, the Lenihan completely weatherproof sliding hatch design.
Peter could fill up a CD with just one season's ramblings:-)
And some of this knowledge should be archive or be lost forever as
his neural circuits gradually burn out.
Cheers, Nels
wrote:
>I
> I guess I'm as bad a teckno-weanie as Peter Lenihan, because try as
> might, I couldn't even add my name to the list of Bolger fans on aonly.
> new line, it just kept adding it behind your name, and in black
> Not your cool blue.I belong to the Hector/Lenihan school of computer expertise. I get a
>
thrill whenever windows loads itself:-)
Would it be possible to be able to forward things in files and have
somebody else load them up for some of us?
The idea is very good and would work really well in conjuction with
this site. Having all the background information in one place and in
a consistent order would be invaluable and take some of the load off
Gregg as well. Then when a newbie joins, it would not be necessary to
start all over again pointing where the files and photos are.
Ideally at some point it could be self-supporting in that
documentation could be sold on CD's or DVD. This could include back
archives from MAIB and videos like Bjorn's and I am sure many others
once the new DVD cams come down in price a bit.(These are camcorders
that record directly to DVD.)
Also there could be archived notable posts that have appeared here in
the past. Well we all know what would be important.
Articles on the Lenihan charcoal stove, the Lenihan butt joint, The
Lenihan hollowed-no-squeeze-out-epoxy joint, the Lenihan Micro Keel
design, the Lenihan completely weatherproof sliding hatch design.
Peter could fill up a CD with just one season's ramblings:-)
And some of this knowledge should be archive or be lost forever as
his neural circuits gradually burn out.
Cheers, Nels
I guess I'm as bad a teckno-weanie as Peter Lenihan, because try as I
might, I couldn't even add my name to the list of Bolger fans on a
new line, it just kept adding it behind your name, and in black only.
Not your cool blue.
When I tried to edit the Plans page by adding the scan of Yellow Leaf
I just recieved from another B.H., I was scared away by the screen of
html formating text that came up. Whew!
Not a site for boat nuts to play around in. I'd just screw it up
royally in no time flat.
Don't let the kids under the hood! We're not all as skilled as you
are. BTW, thanks for the super work and time spent already.
Great looking site, but I'd suggest a more rookie friendly format,
where we gleefully add boats and pics and stuff with zero chance of
screw ups. A site with files and photos as yahoos, but with no limits
for example.
Bruce Hector
Plus conditions of ownership and long term stability come to mind,
but others have already covered it.
might, I couldn't even add my name to the list of Bolger fans on a
new line, it just kept adding it behind your name, and in black only.
Not your cool blue.
When I tried to edit the Plans page by adding the scan of Yellow Leaf
I just recieved from another B.H., I was scared away by the screen of
html formating text that came up. Whew!
Not a site for boat nuts to play around in. I'd just screw it up
royally in no time flat.
Don't let the kids under the hood! We're not all as skilled as you
are. BTW, thanks for the super work and time spent already.
Great looking site, but I'd suggest a more rookie friendly format,
where we gleefully add boats and pics and stuff with zero chance of
screw ups. A site with files and photos as yahoos, but with no limits
for example.
Bruce Hector
Plus conditions of ownership and long term stability come to mind,
but others have already covered it.
Personally I think it would be a great place for us to place photos,
design information and perhaps a message archive. so as to avoid
Yahoos slow interface and useless search tool.
I agree that the biggest risk is what if Tom leaves, specifcally, and
God forbid, something happens to Tom then all of the data is lost. We
face a similar risk here on bolger yahoo in that I believe that Gregg
is the only moderator and therefore is the only one with
administrative rights to the group. On another group, we have added
several moderators so this risk has been minimized.
I would suggest that if we start building Tom's site that at least one
or two other people either have administrative rights or has some way
of backing up the wiki so that it can continue in unfortunate
circumstances.
Bill
design information and perhaps a message archive. so as to avoid
Yahoos slow interface and useless search tool.
I agree that the biggest risk is what if Tom leaves, specifcally, and
God forbid, something happens to Tom then all of the data is lost. We
face a similar risk here on bolger yahoo in that I believe that Gregg
is the only moderator and therefore is the only one with
administrative rights to the group. On another group, we have added
several moderators so this risk has been minimized.
I would suggest that if we start building Tom's site that at least one
or two other people either have administrative rights or has some way
of backing up the wiki so that it can continue in unfortunate
circumstances.
Bill
Good questions... Right now the site is hosted on my personal website
so I could see why you might worry about the permanence of it. I have
no limit on bandwidth and space so it doesn't cost me anything more to
put it up. My thought was that if it became popular enough it could
spawn off on to its own domain and might even be self-supporting. The
site is pretty much all user maintained and while there is an
administrative access side there isn't much to do. I was going to see
which people were doing a lot of work on the site and then ask them if
they wanted to help do more of the administrative type work.
All that is in the future though...
I've been hanging out around here for two or three years and wasn't
planning on leaving any time soon. I've had this idea kicking around
in my head for over a year now so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm
not trying to sell anything or make any money. I've just noticed a lot
of people ask for something like this and figured it was something I
could do and would be willing to maintain.
Maybe someday, if it were useful enough, PB&F will let us use the
bolgerboats.com that they have registered but not used.
Tom
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@h...>
wrote:
so I could see why you might worry about the permanence of it. I have
no limit on bandwidth and space so it doesn't cost me anything more to
put it up. My thought was that if it became popular enough it could
spawn off on to its own domain and might even be self-supporting. The
site is pretty much all user maintained and while there is an
administrative access side there isn't much to do. I was going to see
which people were doing a lot of work on the site and then ask them if
they wanted to help do more of the administrative type work.
All that is in the future though...
I've been hanging out around here for two or three years and wasn't
planning on leaving any time soon. I've had this idea kicking around
in my head for over a year now so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm
not trying to sell anything or make any money. I've just noticed a lot
of people ask for something like this and figured it was something I
could do and would be willing to maintain.
Maybe someday, if it were useful enough, PB&F will let us use the
bolgerboats.com that they have registered but not used.
Tom
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@h...>
wrote:
>this.
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting idea Tom.
> > What degree of permanence does the site have? Do you control it,
> and
> > if you do, what happens if you leave? Is anyone paying for it to
> run?
> > If not, why not?
> > I'm not meaning to be negative.
> > I just feel we should know more about the setup, because a lot of
> time
> > and effort could be committed by Bolgerists on something like
> > Cheers,
> > DonB.
>
> I'll parrot Don and wait for your replys too.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter,goodfernothinglazybum,Lenihan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@w...> wrote:
Sincerely,
Peter,goodfernothinglazybum,Lenihan
>and
> Interesting idea Tom.
> What degree of permanence does the site have? Do you control it,
> if you do, what happens if you leave? Is anyone paying for it torun?
> If not, why not?time
> I'm not meaning to be negative.
> I just feel we should know more about the setup, because a lot of
> and effort could be committed by Bolgerists on something like this.I'll parrot Don and wait for your replys too.
> Cheers,
> DonB.
Sincerely,
Peter,goodfernothinglazybum,Lenihan
Interesting idea Tom.
What degree of permanence does the site have? Do you control it, and
if you do, what happens if you leave? Is anyone paying for it to run?
If not, why not?
I'm not meaning to be negative.
I just feel we should know more about the setup, because a lot of time
and effort could be committed by Bolgerists on something like this.
Cheers,
DonB.
What degree of permanence does the site have? Do you control it, and
if you do, what happens if you leave? Is anyone paying for it to run?
If not, why not?
I'm not meaning to be negative.
I just feel we should know more about the setup, because a lot of time
and effort could be committed by Bolgerists on something like this.
Cheers,
DonB.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <thomas533@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I've been a mostly quiet participant here for quite a while. I love
> all the discussion and photos that everyone posts. As the group has
> grown, Yahoo Groups doesn't seem to have provided a really good online
> collaborative tool that works for this group. Since I am from a
> technical background I thought I might give it a try.
>
> Here goes, an online collaboration web site where anyone can upload
> files/pictures, write up their latest boat shop experience, and search
> for other people's info in the Bolger boat that you are interested in.
> You don't need to know any programing languages to get started and
> there is a easy to follow documentation once you get comfortable with
> it. I have started making some of the pages but if everyone does a
> little bit we could have a whole lot more.
>
> There are almost no bandwidth limitaions or restrictions so have fun
> and let me know if you have any questions. If this turns out to be
> usefull then I can upgrade the server to handle more of a load but we
> will see... I hope all 2000 of you don't log in at one time :)
>
>http://bolger.ohern.net
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom O'Hern
Tom: you must be a mind reader. I was wondering when someone might
be able to mount a site with info by boat model so helpful hints,
shortcuts, etc can be lumped in one place.
It will take some getting used to a different format. If I can
suggest, you chop the site into a heirarchtical structure:
Boat Model
- Construction
wood
glass
metal
etc
- Sails
- Controls
lines
rudder
centerboard/leeboard/keel
- SOS (help)
- At sea photos
- For Sale
- Wanted
A generic construction area (not model specific) would also be a help
along with a list of book resources and links to Alibris, Powells,
etc. Hardware sources lumped into one place another notion.
As a newbie, I am not versed in what the logical catagories would be
but I'll bet the old timers know. This forum is good for blad-de-
blah but lacks a mechanisms to make it a single source for dirty
fingernail info.
Dave
be able to mount a site with info by boat model so helpful hints,
shortcuts, etc can be lumped in one place.
It will take some getting used to a different format. If I can
suggest, you chop the site into a heirarchtical structure:
Boat Model
- Construction
wood
glass
metal
etc
- Sails
- Controls
lines
rudder
centerboard/leeboard/keel
- SOS (help)
- At sea photos
- For Sale
- Wanted
A generic construction area (not model specific) would also be a help
along with a list of book resources and links to Alibris, Powells,
etc. Hardware sources lumped into one place another notion.
As a newbie, I am not versed in what the logical catagories would be
but I'll bet the old timers know. This forum is good for blad-de-
blah but lacks a mechanisms to make it a single source for dirty
fingernail info.
Dave
Hey everyone,
I've been a mostly quiet participant here for quite a while. I love
all the discussion and photos that everyone posts. As the group has
grown, Yahoo Groups doesn't seem to have provided a really good online
collaborative tool that works for this group. Since I am from a
technical background I thought I might give it a try.
Here goes, an online collaboration web site where anyone can upload
files/pictures, write up their latest boat shop experience, and search
for other people's info in the Bolger boat that you are interested in.
You don't need to know any programing languages to get started and
there is a easy to follow documentation once you get comfortable with
it. I have started making some of the pages but if everyone does a
little bit we could have a whole lot more.
There are almost no bandwidth limitaions or restrictions so have fun
and let me know if you have any questions. If this turns out to be
usefull then I can upgrade the server to handle more of a load but we
will see... I hope all 2000 of you don't log in at one time :)
http://bolger.ohern.net
Thanks,
Tom O'Hern
I've been a mostly quiet participant here for quite a while. I love
all the discussion and photos that everyone posts. As the group has
grown, Yahoo Groups doesn't seem to have provided a really good online
collaborative tool that works for this group. Since I am from a
technical background I thought I might give it a try.
Here goes, an online collaboration web site where anyone can upload
files/pictures, write up their latest boat shop experience, and search
for other people's info in the Bolger boat that you are interested in.
You don't need to know any programing languages to get started and
there is a easy to follow documentation once you get comfortable with
it. I have started making some of the pages but if everyone does a
little bit we could have a whole lot more.
There are almost no bandwidth limitaions or restrictions so have fun
and let me know if you have any questions. If this turns out to be
usefull then I can upgrade the server to handle more of a load but we
will see... I hope all 2000 of you don't log in at one time :)
http://bolger.ohern.net
Thanks,
Tom O'Hern