Re: [bolger] Gloucester Gull or?
> The Gloucester Gull or??FWIW, the 'definitive' dory article by Phil Bolger
appears in the old SBJ Vol.1 No. 7, [as his
attempts at perfecting the dory spans much
of his career.] In this article he explains that
evolution of design.
Sort of rare, a copy is now for sale on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6948528160
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@a...>
wrote:
A couple of smaller designs are Piccup Pram and Piccup Squared, both
designed by Jim Michalak to fit into a pick-up truck.
Another one to consider is Surf. It has two rowing positions, the
forward one if there is a passenger. You also have the option of
sailing or even a tiny motor. Also has lots of dry storage and
floatation. Nice to have options in my view.
Cheers, Nels
wrote:
> Will study what is so far suggested, and, after Madame Chebaccogets
> herself fully outfitted, then would like the idea of making majorOhh,
> wake on the Plainfield Pond with wild sweaty rowing to and fro.
> didn't mention: the Pond has lurking large, sharp edged rocks hereHi Dick,
> and there just beneath the surface so shallow draft is a super
> plus. -- Dick
>
A couple of smaller designs are Piccup Pram and Piccup Squared, both
designed by Jim Michalak to fit into a pick-up truck.
Another one to consider is Surf. It has two rowing positions, the
forward one if there is a passenger. You also have the option of
sailing or even a tiny motor. Also has lots of dry storage and
floatation. Nice to have options in my view.
Cheers, Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@a...> wrote:
club I belonged to had a gull and a stretched gull to row. the
stretched gull is faster due to it's length, but both boats weighed
about the same because the man who built it used the thickere plywood
option. the plans give you the option to use 3/8" all around or 1/4"
on the sides and 3/8" on the bottom. I have seen the lighter version
at Mystic Seaport and other places and it is a much lighter boat
probably 60lb as opposed to 120lb. and the design is some what
stackable just like the original dories for truck movement and
storage. the gull is a great rower with good semi-rough water
capability and will handle most of the wind and waves you would throw
at it. to teach a small child to row it is a perfect boat, the child
goes in the front and has closer thogether oar locks and resulting
smaller oars. you will need a person or ballast to balance them in the
stern though. one other thought I always thought the seat in the gull
was too low at 6" I found that raising it to 8" with a cushion
improved my stroke and back condition. the stretched gull has the
seats set at 8". Bolger has a set of plans in Metric for the gull that
makes it a double ender, he said it is easier to make and would be
faster under a load. He did an article in MAIB about it a few years ago.
good luck, the gull is a great boat and I think it is prety stable and
safe for kids.
josh withe
"Feet wet" is the radio call that navy pilots give when flying from
over land to sea, rower wet is mine.
>If you are looking at a gull or similar, build it light. the rowing
> especially for instant pickup truck bed tucking. So,
> the back-off option would be two smaller boats, each for the two
> rowers. These boats would be sized so that, hopefully, a grandchild
> could sit, fish, doddle, etc. while the rower sweats. From these new
> criteria, while not forgetting entirely the initial request, I think
> lots of what were suggested fit more perfectly. Bell's boat, John
> Welsford's, Bolger's Gull and others. .
>
> didn't mention: the Pond has lurking large, sharp edged rocks here
> and there just beneath the surface so shallow draft is a super
> plus. -- Dick
>
club I belonged to had a gull and a stretched gull to row. the
stretched gull is faster due to it's length, but both boats weighed
about the same because the man who built it used the thickere plywood
option. the plans give you the option to use 3/8" all around or 1/4"
on the sides and 3/8" on the bottom. I have seen the lighter version
at Mystic Seaport and other places and it is a much lighter boat
probably 60lb as opposed to 120lb. and the design is some what
stackable just like the original dories for truck movement and
storage. the gull is a great rower with good semi-rough water
capability and will handle most of the wind and waves you would throw
at it. to teach a small child to row it is a perfect boat, the child
goes in the front and has closer thogether oar locks and resulting
smaller oars. you will need a person or ballast to balance them in the
stern though. one other thought I always thought the seat in the gull
was too low at 6" I found that raising it to 8" with a cushion
improved my stroke and back condition. the stretched gull has the
seats set at 8". Bolger has a set of plans in Metric for the gull that
makes it a double ender, he said it is easier to make and would be
faster under a load. He did an article in MAIB about it a few years ago.
good luck, the gull is a great boat and I think it is prety stable and
safe for kids.
josh withe
"Feet wet" is the radio call that navy pilots give when flying from
over land to sea, rower wet is mine.
Will:
There's even room for a third, in calm water, though she doesn't have
much freeboard left at that point.
OTOH, we find that we use our Mouseboats much more frequently, as
they're easier to toss in the back of the Aztek.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> The Gull is essentially a one-person boat.That's news to me: Amanda and I love to go rowing in it together.
There's even room for a third, in calm water, though she doesn't have
much freeboard left at that point.
OTOH, we find that we use our Mouseboats much more frequently, as
they're easier to toss in the back of the Aztek.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for aPayson has 'em, and wrote a book about them. The Gull is extremely
> one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
> toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
> (equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or?? And
> if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.
pleasant to row, and looks great. I'm not sure how easy she is to
toss in a pickup, although Bruce Hector has a similarly-sized Michalak
Sportdory that he seems to shift around just fine in the back of his.
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
In that case, my 11' Blackberry dory fits the bill very well indeed.
Eliminate the lubberly thwarts I show and put some framing in their place,
and two boats would stack very nicely in th back of a small pickup.
Eliminate the lubberly thwarts I show and put some framing in their place,
and two boats would stack very nicely in th back of a small pickup.
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From: "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Gloucester Gull or?
>
>
> Wow, you guys sure have been helpful. Thanks. Now, let me clarify
> (for myself at the very least!) the purported need: summer exercise
> for two. and, looking at boat size for two to row in one boat, it is
> getting long, especially for instant pickup truck bed tucking. So,
> the back-off option would be two smaller boats, each for the two
> rowers. These boats would be sized so that, hopefully, a grandchild
> could sit, fish, doddle, etc. while the rower sweats. From these new
> criteria, while not forgetting entirely the initial request, I think
> lots of what were suggested fit more perfectly. Bell's boat, John
> Welsford's, Bolger's Gull and others. I am (no shyness here!) much
> impressed when someone writes that they got the plans on day 1 and
> had it together on day 2 oe 3.
>
> Will study what is so far suggested, and, after Madame Chebacco gets
> herself fully outfitted, then would like the idea of making major
> wake on the Plainfield Pond with wild sweaty rowing to and fro. Ohh,
> didn't mention: the Pond has lurking large, sharp edged rocks here
> and there just beneath the surface so shallow draft is a super
> plus. -- Dick
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@a...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for
> a
> > one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
> > toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
> > (equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or??
> And
> > if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the
> plans.
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Wow, you guys sure have been helpful. Thanks. Now, let me clarify
(for myself at the very least!) the purported need: summer exercise
for two. and, looking at boat size for two to row in one boat, it is
getting long, especially for instant pickup truck bed tucking. So,
the back-off option would be two smaller boats, each for the two
rowers. These boats would be sized so that, hopefully, a grandchild
could sit, fish, doddle, etc. while the rower sweats. From these new
criteria, while not forgetting entirely the initial request, I think
lots of what were suggested fit more perfectly. Bell's boat, John
Welsford's, Bolger's Gull and others. I am (no shyness here!) much
impressed when someone writes that they got the plans on day 1 and
had it together on day 2 oe 3.
Will study what is so far suggested, and, after Madame Chebacco gets
herself fully outfitted, then would like the idea of making major
wake on the Plainfield Pond with wild sweaty rowing to and fro. Ohh,
didn't mention: the Pond has lurking large, sharp edged rocks here
and there just beneath the surface so shallow draft is a super
plus. -- Dick
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@a...>
wrote:
(for myself at the very least!) the purported need: summer exercise
for two. and, looking at boat size for two to row in one boat, it is
getting long, especially for instant pickup truck bed tucking. So,
the back-off option would be two smaller boats, each for the two
rowers. These boats would be sized so that, hopefully, a grandchild
could sit, fish, doddle, etc. while the rower sweats. From these new
criteria, while not forgetting entirely the initial request, I think
lots of what were suggested fit more perfectly. Bell's boat, John
Welsford's, Bolger's Gull and others. I am (no shyness here!) much
impressed when someone writes that they got the plans on day 1 and
had it together on day 2 oe 3.
Will study what is so far suggested, and, after Madame Chebacco gets
herself fully outfitted, then would like the idea of making major
wake on the Plainfield Pond with wild sweaty rowing to and fro. Ohh,
didn't mention: the Pond has lurking large, sharp edged rocks here
and there just beneath the surface so shallow draft is a super
plus. -- Dick
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@a...>
wrote:
>a
> Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for
> one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy toAnd
> toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
> (equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or??
> if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have theplans.
Bruce,
Beautiful job, And thanks for the slick presentation. The boat still very slippery. Fun
for wun?
The 13' utility has a little flatter bottom than Spur3, allowing for the nice building
method first shown by John Gardner of narrow plywood strakes on a round bottom covered
with one piece of fabric instead of individually taped multiple chines.
Why don't you put up a scan of that one for folks?
Peter V,
Instead of the gold plater, that commentary ends by proposing June Bug.
Mark
Bruce Hallman wrote:
Beautiful job, And thanks for the slick presentation. The boat still very slippery. Fun
for wun?
The 13' utility has a little flatter bottom than Spur3, allowing for the nice building
method first shown by John Gardner of narrow plywood strakes on a round bottom covered
with one piece of fabric instead of individually taped multiple chines.
Why don't you put up a scan of that one for folks?
Peter V,
Instead of the gold plater, that commentary ends by proposing June Bug.
Mark
Bruce Hallman wrote:
>
> This would be very similar to the 13'1" _Utility
> Rowing Boat_ cartoon published by Bolger
> in the March 1991 _Small Boat Journal_
>
> I plonked the lines into Gregg Carlson's
> program, and here is the shape of a 14
> foot long 'Spur 3'.
>
>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/Spur3.gif
When you have two people row from the bow station. Took me a while to
figure that out too.
HJ
Will Samson wrote:
figure that out too.
HJ
Will Samson wrote:
>The Gull is essentially a one-person boat. I went out with Bill Parkes in his Gull some years ago, sitting in the stern sheets. There's very little buoyancy back there and things had something of the look of the 'Shallow Hal' canoe with his substantial girlfriend seated at one end, and the other in the air!
>
>Thought of a June Bug? Not as fast as the Gull, but will hold up to three people for rowing around, and steady as a rock. Can be built to weigh under 100 pounds (occume ply), too. I had one for a few years, and never bothered to put the sailing rig on it.
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>Bill
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> Subject: [bolger] Gloucester Gull or?
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> Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for a
> one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
> toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
> (equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or?? And
> if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.
>
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Payson has the plans, click the Gull lnk at the bottom of his home page.
Built three of them summer before last, very nice to row.
HJ
seagulloutb wrote:
Built three of them summer before last, very nice to row.
HJ
seagulloutb wrote:
>Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for a
>one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
>toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
>(equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or?? And
>if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.
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Nobody has mentioned Poohsticks from Small Boats. PCB indicates that it carries "a large man and his large wife"--not too complicated, pleasant to look at, and it might actually fit in the back of a pick up.
John T
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hector
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:57 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Gloucester Gull or?
Not a dory, and sorry, not even a Bolger design, but a sweet row
boat with lots of flotation and capacity up to three full size
adults is John Wlesford's Seagull.
I love mine. See build and use pics at:
http://www.brucesboats.com/page21.html
She was an easy and fast build and a pure plesure to row.
A shorter 13ish version called Setnet Dinghy or Skiff is also
available.
Bruce Hector
Temporarily back north watching the snow fall from my office
window, .... AARRRRGGHHHHHH!
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Not a dory, and sorry, not even a Bolger design, but a sweet row
boat with lots of flotation and capacity up to three full size
adults is John Wlesford's Seagull.
I love mine. See build and use pics at:
http://www.brucesboats.com/page21.html
She was an easy and fast build and a pure plesure to row.
A shorter 13ish version called Setnet Dinghy or Skiff is also
available.
Bruce Hector
Temporarily back north watching the snow fall from my office
window, .... AARRRRGGHHHHHH!
boat with lots of flotation and capacity up to three full size
adults is John Wlesford's Seagull.
I love mine. See build and use pics at:
http://www.brucesboats.com/page21.html
She was an easy and fast build and a pure plesure to row.
A shorter 13ish version called Setnet Dinghy or Skiff is also
available.
Bruce Hector
Temporarily back north watching the snow fall from my office
window, .... AARRRRGGHHHHHH!
You can row with a passenger in a Gull if the rower moves forward two feet.
I used to do this all the time in my Sportdory (built on the same section as
a Gull, just not as pretty) with my wife and two kids aboard. If you want to
have two rowers I think you're out of luck given the rest of your criteria.
To row with two, you'll want at least an 18' boat or even longer.
Jim Michalak has some nice little vee-bottom rowboats down to 12' or so that
might be worth considering.
Putting on my shameless promotion hat, either my 11' or 14' Blackberry dory
might fit the bill as well.http://mistermoon.blogspot.com
JB
I used to do this all the time in my Sportdory (built on the same section as
a Gull, just not as pretty) with my wife and two kids aboard. If you want to
have two rowers I think you're out of luck given the rest of your criteria.
To row with two, you'll want at least an 18' boat or even longer.
Jim Michalak has some nice little vee-bottom rowboats down to 12' or so that
might be worth considering.
Putting on my shameless promotion hat, either my 11' or 14' Blackberry dory
might fit the bill as well.http://mistermoon.blogspot.com
JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:40 AM
Subject: [bolger] Gloucester Gull or?
>
>
> Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for a
> one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
> toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
> (equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or?? And
> if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.
>
>
>
> DoryWith all bias in full force, dorys were designed
> Bruce Hector
for great performance carrying a full load as
working boats. They aren't really ideal as the
'perfect' lightly loaded recreational rowing boat.
In my biased opinion, if you desire the 'perfect'
rowboat you want the best hydrodynamics, and
that requires curvy lines.
The only flaw I can point to with Spur II is that it
is 16 feet long, which makes it just a little
tough to handle, though I can carry it and car
top it alone. [which involves some grunting]
I have been tempted to try the same lines as
Spur II but shortened down to 14 feet. This would
be a decrease in rowing performance, in exchange
for an increase in car toppability.
This would be very similar to the 13'1" _Utility
Rowing Boat_ cartoon published by Bolger
in the March 1991 _Small Boat Journal_
I plonked the lines into Gregg Carlson's
program, and here is the shape of a 14
foot long 'Spur 3'.
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/Spur3.gif
I suggested a Crystal, nice boat, but a mind glitch,
what I meant to write was:
The Spur II is the row boat I recommend,
A relatively easy build, *very* nice rower,
and two-some capacity.
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/row/
what I meant to write was:
The Spur II is the row boat I recommend,
A relatively easy build, *very* nice rower,
and two-some capacity.
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/row/
My opinion: the light dories have a lot of rough water capability you
don't need on a small body of water. A boat like June Bug, Crystal,
Teal, Surf, Cartopper, Featherwind ($200 sailboat version), Pointy
Skiff, etc will be much more compact for the capacity, and the greater
initial stiffness will often be welcome.
don't need on a small body of water. A boat like June Bug, Crystal,
Teal, Surf, Cartopper, Featherwind ($200 sailboat version), Pointy
Skiff, etc will be much more compact for the capacity, and the greater
initial stiffness will often be welcome.
What about the Light Dory Mk V, PB calls it an improvement on the
Gull. Floatation built in, high up where it might right her in a
toss. Beautiful sheer, and dramn for stitch and glue, I believe.
John Welsford's Light Dory also has built in floatation and nice
lines.
Bruce Hector
Gull. Floatation built in, high up where it might right her in a
toss. Beautiful sheer, and dramn for stitch and glue, I believe.
John Welsford's Light Dory also has built in floatation and nice
lines.
Bruce Hector
If you want a two-person version of the Gull, you
might consider the "stretched" version--this is a
twenty-footer designed for instant-boat type
construction (the regular Gull is designed to be built
on a strongback). The stretched version is a
wonderful one- or two-man pulling boat, and is
absolutely beautiful, and easy to build. It is not an
ideal fishing boat, however, if that is what you have
in mind (the initial stability is low) and I expect
the same is true for the 16' Gull. And neither will
fit in the back of a pick-up.
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might consider the "stretched" version--this is a
twenty-footer designed for instant-boat type
construction (the regular Gull is designed to be built
on a strongback). The stretched version is a
wonderful one- or two-man pulling boat, and is
absolutely beautiful, and easy to build. It is not an
ideal fishing boat, however, if that is what you have
in mind (the initial stability is low) and I expect
the same is true for the 16' Gull. And neither will
fit in the back of a pick-up.
--- seagulloutb <dickburnham1@...> wrote:
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> Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions
> might come up for a
> one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds?
> Something easy to
> toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for
> summertime exercise
> (equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The
> Gloucester Gull or?? And
> if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem
> to have the plans.
>
>
>
>
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> Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for aPayson sells a short book 'How to build the Gloucester Gull'.
> one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? ... The Gloucester Gull or??
> if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.
Still, reading between the lines, you seem to want a great, gorgeous
and capable rowboat. Crystal II meets that criteria. The lapstrakes
might give you some pause, but I can say first hand, they are not
that hard. [quite forgiving really] I recall that my Crystal took the
spare time over a few weeks to build. Plans from Bolger,
or I was able to build mine directly out of the book.
The Gull is essentially a one-person boat. I went out with Bill Parkes in his Gull some years ago, sitting in the stern sheets. There's very little buoyancy back there and things had something of the look of the 'Shallow Hal' canoe with his substantial girlfriend seated at one end, and the other in the air!
Thought of a June Bug? Not as fast as the Gull, but will hold up to three people for rowing around, and steady as a rock. Can be built to weigh under 100 pounds (occume ply), too. I had one for a few years, and never bothered to put the sailing rig on it.
Bill
Thought of a June Bug? Not as fast as the Gull, but will hold up to three people for rowing around, and steady as a rock. Can be built to weigh under 100 pounds (occume ply), too. I had one for a few years, and never bothered to put the sailing rig on it.
Bill
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From: seagulloutb
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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: [bolger] Gloucester Gull or?
Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for a
one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
(equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or?? And
if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.
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Hmmm, in a 'just talkin'' mode, what suggestions might come up for a
one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
(equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or?? And
if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.
one and/or 2 person rowing boat for small ponds? Something easy to
toss in a pickup, fun to row--and a source for summertime exercise
(equivalent to our winter x-c skiing). The Gloucester Gull or?? And
if "Gull" then where to get as Payson doesn't seem to have the plans.