Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger electric boat plans
In a message dated 4/13/00 12:36:56 AM Central Daylight Time,
smuller@...writes:
<< At one time I had considered building a Weekender from Stevenson
Projects, and at that time they had one that they had set the trolling
motor right into the rudder, and I thought that was a really good idea,
again for the, "instant on" ability that it gave. >>
I believe that somewhere in the back issues of WoodenBoat there is an article
by a fellow who went to the trouble of modifying an electric trolling motor
to fair undetectibly (from the surface) into the rudder of his
traditional-style daysailer. His principal (avowed) motivation was aesthetic
(an entirely laudatory reason - a Minnkota or equivalent perched on a bracket
would have been an ugly excresence on his boat - I am personally in favor of
a tax on ugly boats (bass boats, jet-skis, Bayliners) to subsidise pretty
ones (1913 Morris canoes, etc.).
However he did remark on the ability to "cheat" in light airs by using it in
an undetected "motor-sailer" mode, to the amazement and consternation of
other sailors! Very, very naughty, but I can imagine what fun it might be.
Once when canoeing I was astonished and chagrined by a very cheerful young
couple paddling a blunt and ugly Royalex boat with more enthusiasm than
skill. They overtook me in my stripper with super-duper bent-shaft paddle
with astonishing ease and seemed to take an unseemly amount of glee at the
rate they overtook me. It was only after they drew ahead of me that I could
see the electric trolling motor perched on a gunnel bracket on the far side
of the stern paddler. When I laughed at this, they saluted me happily,
obviously pleased with their guile and meaning no malice.
smuller@...writes:
<< At one time I had considered building a Weekender from Stevenson
Projects, and at that time they had one that they had set the trolling
motor right into the rudder, and I thought that was a really good idea,
again for the, "instant on" ability that it gave. >>
I believe that somewhere in the back issues of WoodenBoat there is an article
by a fellow who went to the trouble of modifying an electric trolling motor
to fair undetectibly (from the surface) into the rudder of his
traditional-style daysailer. His principal (avowed) motivation was aesthetic
(an entirely laudatory reason - a Minnkota or equivalent perched on a bracket
would have been an ugly excresence on his boat - I am personally in favor of
a tax on ugly boats (bass boats, jet-skis, Bayliners) to subsidise pretty
ones (1913 Morris canoes, etc.).
However he did remark on the ability to "cheat" in light airs by using it in
an undetected "motor-sailer" mode, to the amazement and consternation of
other sailors! Very, very naughty, but I can imagine what fun it might be.
Once when canoeing I was astonished and chagrined by a very cheerful young
couple paddling a blunt and ugly Royalex boat with more enthusiasm than
skill. They overtook me in my stripper with super-duper bent-shaft paddle
with astonishing ease and seemed to take an unseemly amount of glee at the
rate they overtook me. It was only after they drew ahead of me that I could
see the electric trolling motor perched on a gunnel bracket on the far side
of the stern paddler. When I laughed at this, they saluted me happily,
obviously pleased with their guile and meaning no malice.
Stan,
I specified an electric outboard for my 23ft Cat-Ketch design
http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg/articles/Jeff/index.htm
I was booed a bit for designing a cheap-to-build boat with such a hellishly
dear mota (10hp 7k US $).
But its a beauty, and acts as a rudder when not in use. Have a look, its the
Sol-Z (Swiss). I researched a lot and this was the best deal.
Another advantage...siting the batteries is a great way to fine-tune a new
design (wrt trim).
The boat was for a design comp. and could be up to 50k US to build!!!. I was
trying to stop my cost looking silly, so . I bolted on the goodies!!
Should have just said "OOPS, sorry, this boat has a 900pct profit margin."
Jeff Gilbert
I specified an electric outboard for my 23ft Cat-Ketch design
http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg/articles/Jeff/index.htm
I was booed a bit for designing a cheap-to-build boat with such a hellishly
dear mota (10hp 7k US $).
But its a beauty, and acts as a rudder when not in use. Have a look, its the
Sol-Z (Swiss). I researched a lot and this was the best deal.
Another advantage...siting the batteries is a great way to fine-tune a new
design (wrt trim).
The boat was for a design comp. and could be up to 50k US to build!!!. I was
trying to stop my cost looking silly, so . I bolted on the goodies!!
Should have just said "OOPS, sorry, this boat has a 900pct profit margin."
Jeff Gilbert
----- Original Message -----
From: Stan Muller <smuller@...>
To: Bolger egroups <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 3:33 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Bolger electric boat plans
Mark,
I think that your right on the money with the electric outboard boat
motor being the best way to use electric on the boat. There everything
is already done and ready to go. And ready to go is the big thing! As
far as I am concerned, it is a good feeling to have an instant start and
run available when one of the many little surprises comes around the
bend while your sailing, or even when your just sitting enjoying the
view. Just step on the button and get out of harms way.
No matter what I end up with to push the Snow Goose around with,
there will be a 35 to 45 pound thrust Minnkota (spelling?) for a
backup. If I ever decide to be a poacher when I grow up, it will be
nice to be able to sneak up on those "swimming chickens" (read
alligator). Just kidding, but let me tell you, get a leg off of one of
those humpers, and you have got some drum stick! Still kidding.
At one time I had considered building a Weekender from Stevenson
Projects, and at that time they had one that they had set the trolling
motor right into the rudder, and I thought that was a really good idea,
again for the, "instant on" ability that it gave.
With the availability of solar panels now-a-days, and the pricing
becoming more and more reasonable, I see no reason electric can not be
used for putting around the lake on the weekend and solar charge all
week.
All the best, Stan, Micro Tugger, Snow Goose.
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