Re: [bolger] Re: Crowd Control (was Overnight trip on Micro Navigator)

>
> Peter Lenihan, who love to practice delivering colourful curses in
> Canada's other official language..:-D
>
Something along the lines of 'your mother was a hamster, and your father
smells of elderberries! Now go away before I taunt you a second time!'?

Putting some on-topic content in for a change, I've had similar problems
on canal boat holidays in the UK. Locks, particularly difficult ones,
tend to attract crowds of onlookers waiting for somebody to make a foul
up (I've seen a few impressive ones myself). My preferred technique for
getting rid of them is to ask if they'd mind holding a rope for a couple
of minutes, or if they'd give me a hand with the lock gates. Most of
them disappear pretty sharpish, and if they don't then you've got some help.

Dan
> But I can assure all that the launch ramp loonies pale when compared
> to some of the boat yard technicians who have wandered over to my
> boatshed,invited themselves in,
> Peter Lenihan

L.F. Herreshoff writes of this phenomina, in the chapter of his
book, _The Clompleat Cruiser_, which describes the "ideal workshop".
I encourage you to go and read/re-read it. In his case, it is just
curious neighbors, and his solution was to ensure that his workshop
had a comfortable, but out of the way place to sit. LFH would then
just work on, ignoring the small talk while at the same time every
so often saying aloud, "isn't that so", "uh-huh", "yes, of course".

If I remember correctly, this is also the chapter where he describes
the need for a 'moaning chair' in a workshop too.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Will Samson" <willsamson@y...> wrote:
> Of course if you do give them advice in the form of a two-word
phrase involving sex and travel, it means that you're one of these
arrogant, obnoxious yotties that everybody hates.

Oh my! Such nastiness.....I love it :-) In my situation, I at first
plead ignorance of whichever of Canada's two official languages is
being spoken at the time. If this cheap ploy fails then I like to
switch the tables by asking my interlocutor to describe for me
exactly how he did/does it on his boat.This will usually silence the
boatless clown or give the floor to the boated"expert" at which
point I proceed to completely and blatantly ignore him/her/it.
However,my all time best way out is to simply interupt the yapper by
asking politely," Are you busy right now?" they always reply with
a "No,not really." At which point I reply with,"Oh no? Well I am!"

But I can assure all that the launch ramp loonies pale when compared
to some of the boat yard technicians who have wandered over to my
boatshed,invited themselves in,scratch their ass,stare at the wood
for awhile and ask,"whatcha buildin'anyway?" my usual reply is"I
haven't a clue,just following the plans." The fustrating aspect was
that I couldn't just sail away from those blighters and they tended
to linger.The solution has been to lock myself inside the
bowshed.The blighters still come by and give the door a tug or two
before wandering off.The more insistent are greeted with a "go away
I'm busy" followed by some convincing hammering sounds......

So much entertainment and it's all free :-)

Sincerely,

Peter Lenihan, who love to practice delivering colourful curses in
Canada's other official language..:-D
http://tinyurl.com/65eyh

It's almost perfect. All that's missing is a PB&F Yacht Club crest on
the chest.

Bruce Hector
> But like Bruce, I make sure my hair is just so, clean pressed clothes
> and a Real Estate agents smile when approaching the dock to applause
> and adulation,
> DonB

Don, are you suggesting I should wear the 'white shoes', 'white belt'
'captains hat' 'blue blazer' costume like Thurston Howell III in
Gilligan's Island??? Stay, 'in character' so to speak?

http://tinyurl.com/65eyh
A sudden and violent 360 degrees ballet turn would have quieted him.
But like Bruce, I make sure my hair is just so, clean pressed clothes
and a Real Estate agents smile when approaching the dock to applause
and adulation,
DonB
http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/



> in my opinion you're a (expletive removed) idiot" was appropriate given
> the mast levered on my shoulders and a maypole of lines hanging port and
> starboard of my 7 year project.
>
> Conrad Dobler, possibly the dirtiest player in American Football history
> used to call it "victim induced violence". Or I guess if they feel they
> have the right to make disparaging comments, then they might expect
> insensitive answers.
> My favorite gawker quote is "That's absolutely not the kind of boat
> that I'd want."

"That's good, because *you* don't get one!"

--
Sue Disturber <futabachan@...>
> My favorite gawker quote is "That's absolutely not
> the kind of boat that I'd want."

Fortunately, I have not encountered anybody rude.
Essentially, just a lot of people who welcome a
good chance as they see it, for a conversation
starter. But, who don't realize it that I have already
answered the same question ten times before
in the last hour.

Not to forget, many of the conversations and
people met are quite interesting. I enjoyed the
conversation about the differences between
yawls and ketches for instance, and many others.
.
>
> What I REALLY hate is "Did you make it yourself?" said in such a
> way as to imply "Looks like an amateur made it". Am I paranoid?
> Probably - but it doesn't mean that they're not really out to belittle
> your efforts.

My favorite gawker quote is "That's absolutely not the kind of boat that
I'd want."

I suppose I was was supposed to respond with some sensitive, inclusive,
politically correct response, however I thought my answer of " Well then
in my opinion you're a (expletive removed) idiot" was appropriate given
the mast levered on my shoulders and a maypole of lines hanging port and
starboard of my 7 year project.

Conrad Dobler, possibly the dirtiest player in American Football history
used to call it "victim induced violence". Or I guess if they feel they
have the right to make disparaging comments, then they might expect
insensitive answers.
Crowds can be a mixed blessing as I'm sure many of us know. You're trying to concentrate on getting everything rigged properly and some twerp keeps asking inane questions and you're too polite to ask him to shut up while you get your head into gear and get onto the water THIS tide, not the next one. Sound familiar?

That's why I like to set sail early on a Sunday, before the time-wasters and tyre-kickers and advice-givers and boatbuilding critics appear in force to ensure that you end up with your mainsheet fouling your halyards or whatever.

What I REALLY hate is "Did you make it yourself?" said in such a way as to imply "Looks like an amateur made it". Am I paranoid? Probably - but it doesn't mean that they're not really out to belittle your efforts.

The follow up to this is often something like "Looks like you ran out of sandpaper when you were doing this bit", or "Is that mast supposed to be leaning a two degrees to port?"

Of course if you do give them advice in the form of a two-word phrase involving sex and travel, it means that you're one of these arrogant, obnoxious yotties that everybody hates.

Then there's the situation where I once had my trailer wheel slide off the edge of the slip, and the crowd who had ruined my concentration vanished like a puff of smoke because they anticipated a request to heave on a line and help me out of the mess.

The upside is that you might (just might) inspire (infect?) somebody with your obsession and have another victim to draw the predators away from you at a future date.

Ain't it great to be curmudgeonly from time to time? >:-[

Bill



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