Re: Navigator keel
Yes, the Navigator was designed as a conversion of a standard Micro,
so ballast keel is the same.
The Navigator cabin top is quite heavy up high, with glass in the
front 3 windows at least (so you can see through it in time). I would
not like less ballast than a standard Micro because of this extra
pendulum effect.
DonB
http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/
so ballast keel is the same.
The Navigator cabin top is quite heavy up high, with glass in the
front 3 windows at least (so you can see through it in time). I would
not like less ballast than a standard Micro because of this extra
pendulum effect.
DonB
http://oink.kiwiwebhost.biz/
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > Does the Navigator version have more lead?
> > Bruce Hector
>
> Per the plans, it has the same, but in a letter
> from PCB he expressed that his goal was
> for the boat to float at its waterline, implying
> that a lighter keel ballast [by the amount of added
> weight of the cabin] would be OK. Also, he
> wrote that some inside ballast in the form of lead
> acid batteries were OK as long as they were
> securely fastened down.
Bruce, you were reading my mind - sort of. Converting one of them into
a power cruiser is what I was thinking but not for me but a friend
near Cobourg. Heck, you're right, a powered Micro makes much more
sense. And Pat might even ride with me.
OK Sue, do what you can/will with them and I'll take the leftovers -
whatever they are. I'll keep my eye out for a small older O/B. (I'm
cheap).
Kinda like the idea of 2 Micros and 4 mice. That means someone has to
build another Mouse. Maybe I should let Pat build her own and we'd
have another female boatbuilder <g>.
Bryant - with a spinning head thinking about boating while the water's
still hard here.
a power cruiser is what I was thinking but not for me but a friend
near Cobourg. Heck, you're right, a powered Micro makes much more
sense. And Pat might even ride with me.
OK Sue, do what you can/will with them and I'll take the leftovers -
whatever they are. I'll keep my eye out for a small older O/B. (I'm
cheap).
Kinda like the idea of 2 Micros and 4 mice. That means someone has to
build another Mouse. Maybe I should let Pat build her own and we'd
have another female boatbuilder <g>.
Bryant - with a spinning head thinking about boating while the water's
still hard here.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Davis" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
> "I'm not sure that the red one is salvageable, but if it is, you're >
> welcome to it after I'm done with it."
>
> Bryant,
>
> If Sue takes the keel, or significant part thereof, and masts, why
> not make it into an unballasted Micro power cruiser? There's more
> oportunity to cruise under power on the Trent anyway.
>
> A 4 hp four stroke will drive it quietly at hull speed all day on a
> few ounces of gas. I don't think there's much (if any rot) and a
> healthy splash of Prestone and bleach will get rid of the mildew. Not
> a ton of standing water, as I've drilled a couple of 1/2" drain holes
> in the bottom of each, easily patched with a dollop of thickened
> epoxy.
>
> Make a Navigatoe style cabin that stretches from stem to stern, sort
> of a Micro Dakota.
>
> Sort of a Rhode Island of the state series power sharpies.
>
> Bruce Hector
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/memorialpreservation/
> My favorite community service is volunteering to preserve memorials,
> especially military monuments. I formed the group above to help
> disseminate this knowlege. If you know of a museum with corroding
> outdoor artifacts (trains, tanks, guns, statues, etc.) please point
> them to it or myself. Thanks.
> Does the Navigator version have more lead?Per the plans, it has the same, but in a letter
> Bruce Hector
from PCB he expressed that his goal was
for the boat to float at its waterline, implying
that a lighter keel ballast [by the amount of added
weight of the cabin] would be OK. Also, he
wrote that some inside ballast in the form of lead
acid batteries were OK as long as they were
securely fastened down.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Davis" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
"I'm not sure that the red one is salvageable, but if it is, you're >
welcome to it after I'm done with it."
Bryant,
If Sue takes the keel, or significant part thereof, and masts, why
not make it into an unballasted Micro power cruiser? There's more
oportunity to cruise under power on the Trent anyway.
A 4 hp four stroke will drive it quietly at hull speed all day on a
few ounces of gas. I don't think there's much (if any rot) and a
healthy splash of Prestone and bleach will get rid of the mildew. Not
a ton of standing water, as I've drilled a couple of 1/2" drain holes
in the bottom of each, easily patched with a dollop of thickened
epoxy.
Make a Navigatoe style cabin that stretches from stem to stern, sort
of a Micro Dakota.
Sort of a Rhode Island of the state series power sharpies.
Bruce Hector
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/memorialpreservation/
My favorite community service is volunteering to preserve memorials,
especially military monuments. I formed the group above to help
disseminate this knowlege. If you know of a museum with corroding
outdoor artifacts (trains, tanks, guns, statues, etc.) please point
them to it or myself. Thanks.
Does the Navigator version have more lead?
Bruce Hector
Bruce Hector
> a correctly-poured keel installed.I am having a hard time imagining the
easy removal of the keel ballast from a Micro.
I would guess it is attached with glue and nails.
Cutting the length of keel batten with a
Sawsall should be possible, but the screws
and bolts would be tough on blades.
Perhaps the plywood sheathing on the ballast
could be left in place. The entire keel of the
'receiving' Micro could be widened by 1/2".
Bryant:
welcome to it after I'm done with it. The original builder did a
substandard job with substandard materials, and it's been sitting in
the open with standing water pooling inside. Its chief value is that
it has hardware, spars, sails, and a correctly-poured keel installed.
I'll probably wind up taking some of that (keel, mizzen) to use in
converting the other one into a Micro Navigator, but you're more than
welcome to the rest, and I can even deliver it.
It'd be neat if you could resurrect her; a cruise with two Micros and
four Mice is a pleasant proposition. :-)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>I'm not sure that the red one is salvageable, but if it is, you're
> DARN! I was trying to borrow a truck to get them.
>
> Congrats, Sue. They are going to a good home.
welcome to it after I'm done with it. The original builder did a
substandard job with substandard materials, and it's been sitting in
the open with standing water pooling inside. Its chief value is that
it has hardware, spars, sails, and a correctly-poured keel installed.
I'll probably wind up taking some of that (keel, mizzen) to use in
converting the other one into a Micro Navigator, but you're more than
welcome to the rest, and I can even deliver it.
It'd be neat if you could resurrect her; a cruise with two Micros and
four Mice is a pleasant proposition. :-)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
DARN! I was trying to borrow a truck to get them.
Congrats, Sue. They are going to a good home.
Looking forward to seeing them at Kingston (fingers crossed).
Bryant
Congrats, Sue. They are going to a good home.
Looking forward to seeing them at Kingston (fingers crossed).
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
>
> Sue Davis snapped them like a hungry trout after a June Bug.
>
> I guess she needs to get on the water before the I60 can be ready, lo
> those many moons from now.
>
> Thanks all, I know they're going to a good home, and might even be at
> the Kingston Messabout this September.
>
> Bruce Hector
Sue Davis snapped them like a hungry trout after a June Bug.
I guess she needs to get on the water before the I60 can be ready, lo
those many moons from now.
Thanks all, I know they're going to a good home, and might even be at
the Kingston Messabout this September.
Bruce Hector
I guess she needs to get on the water before the I60 can be ready, lo
those many moons from now.
Thanks all, I know they're going to a good home, and might even be at
the Kingston Messabout this September.
Bruce Hector
To a good home.
My two Bolger Micros. One, "Red Devil" is completed, poorly and
roughly that I bought primarily to get the trailler. And the plans of
course to finish.
Pictured here:
http://www.brucesboats.com/page4.html
The other, "Riff-Raff", half completed, with masts, sails and keel
formed but not attached. Hull all BS 1088 marine ply and West System,
3/4" bottom. Bunks roughed in. Self draining cockpit mod. MDO use in
the cockpit sole. The link above goes to two pages of construction
details.
Both have been sitting in my yard over the past two winters, and have
suffered a bit for it. A little mildew, which Prestone cleans up
nice. No rot on the good one, a 2 square foot area of the Red Devil's
cockpit sole needs to be cut out and a piece epoxied in.
1 Micro bunked trailler included. So whovere wants them will need to
make two tow trips. This trailler rode easily back to Kingston from
Chicago three years ago, and hasn't moved since.
I've just lost interest in completing them, hope someone can make
good use.
Email me off line if you're interested. Put "Micros" in the subject
so I can pick your message out from the daily barrage of spam.
Conveniently located in Kingston, Ontario. Half way between Toronto
and Montreai. 90 minutes north of Syracuse, New York.
Bruce Hector
bruce_hector@...
My two Bolger Micros. One, "Red Devil" is completed, poorly and
roughly that I bought primarily to get the trailler. And the plans of
course to finish.
Pictured here:
http://www.brucesboats.com/page4.html
The other, "Riff-Raff", half completed, with masts, sails and keel
formed but not attached. Hull all BS 1088 marine ply and West System,
3/4" bottom. Bunks roughed in. Self draining cockpit mod. MDO use in
the cockpit sole. The link above goes to two pages of construction
details.
Both have been sitting in my yard over the past two winters, and have
suffered a bit for it. A little mildew, which Prestone cleans up
nice. No rot on the good one, a 2 square foot area of the Red Devil's
cockpit sole needs to be cut out and a piece epoxied in.
1 Micro bunked trailler included. So whovere wants them will need to
make two tow trips. This trailler rode easily back to Kingston from
Chicago three years ago, and hasn't moved since.
I've just lost interest in completing them, hope someone can make
good use.
Email me off line if you're interested. Put "Micros" in the subject
so I can pick your message out from the daily barrage of spam.
Conveniently located in Kingston, Ontario. Half way between Toronto
and Montreai. 90 minutes north of Syracuse, New York.
Bruce Hector
bruce_hector@...