Re: Viking boat plans ordered
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
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for running with the wind while the cooler is still full of ice-n-
mead.In fact,if we pull off a night-time raid up in Ottawa town and
yank off a Canadian flag flying on any of the larger public
buildings,I think you'll have yerself a fine sail right there.And
nooo,t'ain't stealin' 'cause we's already paid fer it with you and
me's taxes..right Mouton Noir?
Sincerely,
Peter"my Porto for a flaggon-o-mead anyday" Lenihan, always ready to
welcome thirsty pirates,whores and thieves at his dusty bowshed "shop-
by-the-locks" along the mighty St.Lawrence..........
wrote:
> I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation ofa
> Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).Sure she will....a bit small perhaps in size but nevertheless usefull
>
>http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
>
> Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
> course.
for running with the wind while the cooler is still full of ice-n-
mead.In fact,if we pull off a night-time raid up in Ottawa town and
yank off a Canadian flag flying on any of the larger public
buildings,I think you'll have yerself a fine sail right there.And
nooo,t'ain't stealin' 'cause we's already paid fer it with you and
me's taxes..right Mouton Noir?
Sincerely,
Peter"my Porto for a flaggon-o-mead anyday" Lenihan, always ready to
welcome thirsty pirates,whores and thieves at his dusty bowshed "shop-
by-the-locks" along the mighty St.Lawrence..........
"Weldwood" offered (offers) a number of different glues. I have never heard of using contact cement for scarfing. Weldwood also makes a makes a glue which comes in a powdred form and is mixed with water to a cream consistancy. This glues to a light tan color and, if the fit is good, the joint disappears. I've used it for gluing up spars and found it satisfactory. These days, I generally have some epoxy around, so I use it.
John T
John T
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From: robert pyfrom
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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Viking boat plans ordered
Hi Y'all, don't really know how to post messages but in 1958
Science&Mechanics boat builders handbook found Crescent 15 1/2' centerboard
sailboat by C.T. Allen specifying Weldwood contact cement for laminating
scarf's & ply's of mast. Any Comments?
Comboat
----- Original Message -----
From: "John B. Trussell" <John.Trussell@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Viking boat plans ordered
>
> Although the Selway Fisher add doesn't show any lines, most faerings have
a lot of flare and relatively narrow waterline beams. They move very easily
and have immense reserve stability, but comparatively little initial
stability. Ian Oughtred has drawn a small faering (15 1/2 footer named
"Elf")and a slightly larger, flat bottommed version ("Skerrieskiff" in 15
and 17 ft versions). The 17 ft Skerrieskiff uses a 67 sq ft balanced lug;
Elf uses a smaller sprit sail.
>
> Bolger suggests that adding a sail to what is primarily a rowing boat is
likely to degrade the rowing boat while producing a poor sailor. If the
object of the exercise is to immulate Vikings, keep the sail small and make
sure to make it out of red and white material. And don't forget the
figurehead! If you have not discovered it, the British magazine "Water
Craft" periodically publishes articles on Northern boats and the Jan-Feb 05
issue contains a write up on Skerrieskiff and an article about a
reproduction long boat.
>
> Have fun!
>
> John T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Hector
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:52 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Viking boat plans ordered
>
>
>
> I'm sorry to say it's not Phil's, but that one, although compelling, is
> just too big for me at this time. The dream (obsession!) lives on of
> course.
>
> I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation of a
> Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).
>
>http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
>
> Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
> course.
>
> Bruce Hector
> Sharpening my swords, burnishing the rust off of my shield boss and
> brewing up a few flagons of mead for a big downstream raid on Lenihan's
> Secret St. Catherine's Oporto stocks.
>
> Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!
>
> Who's with me!
>
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>
>
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Hi Y'all, don't really know how to post messages but in 1958
Science&Mechanics boat builders handbook found Crescent 15 1/2' centerboard
sailboat by C.T. Allen specifying Weldwood contact cement for laminating
scarf's & ply's of mast. Any Comments?
Comboat
Science&Mechanics boat builders handbook found Crescent 15 1/2' centerboard
sailboat by C.T. Allen specifying Weldwood contact cement for laminating
scarf's & ply's of mast. Any Comments?
Comboat
----- Original Message -----
From: "John B. Trussell" <John.Trussell@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Viking boat plans ordered
>
> Although the Selway Fisher add doesn't show any lines, most faerings have
a lot of flare and relatively narrow waterline beams. They move very easily
and have immense reserve stability, but comparatively little initial
stability. Ian Oughtred has drawn a small faering (15 1/2 footer named
"Elf")and a slightly larger, flat bottommed version ("Skerrieskiff" in 15
and 17 ft versions). The 17 ft Skerrieskiff uses a 67 sq ft balanced lug;
Elf uses a smaller sprit sail.
>
> Bolger suggests that adding a sail to what is primarily a rowing boat is
likely to degrade the rowing boat while producing a poor sailor. If the
object of the exercise is to immulate Vikings, keep the sail small and make
sure to make it out of red and white material. And don't forget the
figurehead! If you have not discovered it, the British magazine "Water
Craft" periodically publishes articles on Northern boats and the Jan-Feb 05
issue contains a write up on Skerrieskiff and an article about a
reproduction long boat.
>
> Have fun!
>
> John T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Hector
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:52 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Viking boat plans ordered
>
>
>
> I'm sorry to say it's not Phil's, but that one, although compelling, is
> just too big for me at this time. The dream (obsession!) lives on of
> course.
>
> I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation of a
> Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).
>
>http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
>
> Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
> course.
>
> Bruce Hector
> Sharpening my swords, burnishing the rust off of my shield boss and
> brewing up a few flagons of mead for a big downstream raid on Lenihan's
> Secret St. Catherine's Oporto stocks.
>
> Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!
>
> Who's with me!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Hi Bruce,
I bet this one comes with a sailplan - otherwise Paul Fisher would never have bothered with the keel and rudder. For authenticity I guess a spritsail with horizontal top would be about right.
I think it's great that he went for the actual length of a typical faering/fourern, rather than let the plywood dictate that it be just under 16 feet.
Apart from size, I wonder how it'll compare with Bolger's Sweet Pea?
Bill
I bet this one comes with a sailplan - otherwise Paul Fisher would never have bothered with the keel and rudder. For authenticity I guess a spritsail with horizontal top would be about right.
I think it's great that he went for the actual length of a typical faering/fourern, rather than let the plywood dictate that it be just under 16 feet.
Apart from size, I wonder how it'll compare with Bolger's Sweet Pea?
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hector
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:52 PM
Subject: [bolger] Viking boat plans ordered
I'm sorry to say it's not Phil's, but that one, although compelling, is
just too big for me at this time. The dream (obsession!) lives on of
course.
I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation of a
Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).
http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
course.
Bruce Hector
Sharpening my swords, burnishing the rust off of my shield boss and
brewing up a few flagons of mead for a big downstream raid on Lenihan's
Secret St. Catherine's Oporto stocks.
Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!
Who's with me!
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
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- Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Although the Selway Fisher add doesn't show any lines, most faerings have a lot of flare and relatively narrow waterline beams. They move very easily and have immense reserve stability, but comparatively little initial stability. Ian Oughtred has drawn a small faering (15 1/2 footer named "Elf")and a slightly larger, flat bottommed version ("Skerrieskiff" in 15 and 17 ft versions). The 17 ft Skerrieskiff uses a 67 sq ft balanced lug; Elf uses a smaller sprit sail.
Bolger suggests that adding a sail to what is primarily a rowing boat is likely to degrade the rowing boat while producing a poor sailor. If the object of the exercise is to immulate Vikings, keep the sail small and make sure to make it out of red and white material. And don't forget the figurehead! If you have not discovered it, the British magazine "Water Craft" periodically publishes articles on Northern boats and the Jan-Feb 05 issue contains a write up on Skerrieskiff and an article about a reproduction long boat.
Have fun!
John T
Bolger suggests that adding a sail to what is primarily a rowing boat is likely to degrade the rowing boat while producing a poor sailor. If the object of the exercise is to immulate Vikings, keep the sail small and make sure to make it out of red and white material. And don't forget the figurehead! If you have not discovered it, the British magazine "Water Craft" periodically publishes articles on Northern boats and the Jan-Feb 05 issue contains a write up on Skerrieskiff and an article about a reproduction long boat.
Have fun!
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hector
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: [bolger] Viking boat plans ordered
I'm sorry to say it's not Phil's, but that one, although compelling, is
just too big for me at this time. The dream (obsession!) lives on of
course.
I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation of a
Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).
http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
course.
Bruce Hector
Sharpening my swords, burnishing the rust off of my shield boss and
brewing up a few flagons of mead for a big downstream raid on Lenihan's
Secret St. Catherine's Oporto stocks.
Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!
Who's with me!
Bolger rules!!!
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- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
- Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Email Paul Fisher and ask about a sail. He's been very good about
answering questions. Clyde
Bruce Hector wrote:
answering questions. Clyde
Bruce Hector wrote:
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> I'm sorry to say it's not Phil's, but that one, although compelling, is
> just too big for me at this time. The dream (obsession!) lives on of
> course.
>
> I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation of a
> Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).
>
>http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
>
> Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
> course.
>
> Bruce Hector
> Sharpening my swords, burnishing the rust off of my shield boss and
> brewing up a few flagons of mead for a big downstream raid on Lenihan's
> Secret St. Catherine's Oporto stocks.
>
> Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!
>
> Who's with me!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
> Fax: (978) 282-1349
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I'm sorry to say it's not Phil's, but that one, although compelling, is
just too big for me at this time. The dream (obsession!) lives on of
course.
I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation of a
Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).
http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
course.
Bruce Hector
Sharpening my swords, burnishing the rust off of my shield boss and
brewing up a few flagons of mead for a big downstream raid on Lenihan's
Secret St. Catherine's Oporto stocks.
Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!
Who's with me!
just too big for me at this time. The dream (obsession!) lives on of
course.
I've ordered the plans for the Kari 2, an 18 foot interpretation of a
Norse Faering (which means she'll swing four oars!).
http://www.selway-fisher.com/DoubleEs.htm#KAR
Does anyone think this will take a sail, a square norseman's sail of
course.
Bruce Hector
Sharpening my swords, burnishing the rust off of my shield boss and
brewing up a few flagons of mead for a big downstream raid on Lenihan's
Secret St. Catherine's Oporto stocks.
Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!
Who's with me!