[bolger] Re: old Birdwatcher web site
Craig, I'd be interested in hearing of your experiences sailing the
BW. I have WB 179 with Mason Smith's write up as well as the August
and Sept 2004 MAIBs dedicated to the BW in "Bolger on Design." I was
not attracted to the BW until I saw pics of it in WB -- looks much
better than the drawings can communicate. I keep wondering if that
particular boat might not be a good candidate for sailing on the
Great Lakes. I could have been sailing by now despite the cold and 35
degree water!
Dennis
I can address rowing (ungainly) but this is the first summer she'll be
rigged. The boat is far more attractive in person than in drawings -- no
question there.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________
-- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
_________________________________
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BW. I have WB 179 with Mason Smith's write up as well as the August
and Sept 2004 MAIBs dedicated to the BW in "Bolger on Design." I was
not attracted to the BW until I saw pics of it in WB -- looks much
better than the drawings can communicate. I keep wondering if that
particular boat might not be a good candidate for sailing on the
Great Lakes. I could have been sailing by now despite the cold and 35
degree water!
Dennis
I can address rowing (ungainly) but this is the first summer she'll be
rigged. The boat is far more attractive in person than in drawings -- no
question there.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________
-- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
_________________________________
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Craig, I'd be interested in hearing of your experiences sailing the
BW. I have WB 179 with Mason Smith's write up as well as the August
and Sept 2004 MAIBs dedicated to the BW in "Bolger on Design." I was
not attracted to the BW until I saw pics of it in WB -- looks much
better than the drawings can communicate. I keep wondering if that
particular boat might not be a good candidate for sailing on the
Great Lakes. I could have been sailing by now despite the cold and 35
degree water!
Dennis
BW. I have WB 179 with Mason Smith's write up as well as the August
and Sept 2004 MAIBs dedicated to the BW in "Bolger on Design." I was
not attracted to the BW until I saw pics of it in WB -- looks much
better than the drawings can communicate. I keep wondering if that
particular boat might not be a good candidate for sailing on the
Great Lakes. I could have been sailing by now despite the cold and 35
degree water!
Dennis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, craig o'donnell <dadadata@f...> wrote:
> Paul
>
> I would be grateful for any information you may have. I am
constantly
> thinking about building one. Maybe a dose of reality would cure me.
> Thank you.
>
> I've rehabbed a Birdwatcher and might be able to answer some Q's.
>
> --
> Craig O'Donnell
> Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
> The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
> The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
> Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese
Junks,
> American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
> Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
> _________________________________
>
> -- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
> -- Macintosh kinda guy
> Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
> _________________________________
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Paul
I would be grateful for any information you may have. I am constantly
thinking about building one. Maybe a dose of reality would cure me.
Thank you.
I've rehabbed a Birdwatcher and might be able to answer some Q's.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________
-- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
_________________________________
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I would be grateful for any information you may have. I am constantly
thinking about building one. Maybe a dose of reality would cure me.
Thank you.
I've rehabbed a Birdwatcher and might be able to answer some Q's.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________
-- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
_________________________________
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AFAIK Peter isn't tuning into the list any more.
He didn't much like the BW (beautifully made though it was) and seldom sailed it. It mouldered on its trailer for a few seasons. Scotland's probably not the place for this kinda boat. A BW2 might have been marginally better, but probably still not a great choice for an area where wine-glass sections and heavy displacement are the norm on the local traditional craft.
I believe it's now owned by a woman who sails her on Loch Tummel, from time to time - though I've never seen it on the water there.
Bill
He didn't much like the BW (beautifully made though it was) and seldom sailed it. It mouldered on its trailer for a few seasons. Scotland's probably not the place for this kinda boat. A BW2 might have been marginally better, but probably still not a great choice for an area where wine-glass sections and heavy displacement are the norm on the local traditional craft.
I believe it's now owned by a woman who sails her on Loch Tummel, from time to time - though I've never seen it on the water there.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: max56537
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:21 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: old Birdwatcher web site
One picture=thousand words. Alot of visual information. Does Peter
Bevans still have his BW? Did Bolger's ideas work in this case? Was it
enjoyable to sail? If this one was lost would he build another?
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My web site is poorly organized but here is a link to the Aeneas' BW.
http://www.geocities.com/kayaker37/Aeneas_Birdwatcher.html
http://www.geocities.com/kayaker37/Aeneas_Birdwatcher.html
> I shouldn't continue badgering you with questions but what is your web
> site called so we can see this glass BW? Thanks again.
I shouldn't continue badgering you with questions but what is your web
site called so we can see this glass BW? Thanks again.
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <kayaker37@h...> wrote:
site called so we can see this glass BW? Thanks again.
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <kayaker37@h...> wrote:
>
> The boat was up for sale at one point and was in need of some TLC. If
> my memory serves me correctly someone was possibly going to make an
> offer for it, I do not know what happened to it.
> > Does Peter Bevans still have his BW?
>
> I had posted some reviews in this group of Mason's boat that was at
> the Wooden Boat Show last year that was featured in Woodenboat
> magazine at around the same time. He took the opportunity to sell it
> recently, and the person who bought it is located about twenty minutes
> from me. Guess I should give him a follow up call to see if he took
> delivery of it yet. I also have a fiberglass BW reviewed by the
> builder/owner on my web site who has probably used his boat the most
> of anyone I know.
> >Did Bolger's ideas work in this case?
>
> Paul
The boat was up for sale at one point and was in need of some TLC. If
my memory serves me correctly someone was possibly going to make an
offer for it, I do not know what happened to it.
the Wooden Boat Show last year that was featured in Woodenboat
magazine at around the same time. He took the opportunity to sell it
recently, and the person who bought it is located about twenty minutes
from me. Guess I should give him a follow up call to see if he took
delivery of it yet. I also have a fiberglass BW reviewed by the
builder/owner on my web site who has probably used his boat the most
of anyone I know.
my memory serves me correctly someone was possibly going to make an
offer for it, I do not know what happened to it.
> Does Peter Bevans still have his BW?I had posted some reviews in this group of Mason's boat that was at
the Wooden Boat Show last year that was featured in Woodenboat
magazine at around the same time. He took the opportunity to sell it
recently, and the person who bought it is located about twenty minutes
from me. Guess I should give him a follow up call to see if he took
delivery of it yet. I also have a fiberglass BW reviewed by the
builder/owner on my web site who has probably used his boat the most
of anyone I know.
>Did Bolger's ideas work in this case?Paul
One picture=thousand words. Alot of visual information. Does Peter
Bevans still have his BW? Did Bolger's ideas work in this case? Was it
enjoyable to sail? If this one was lost would he build another? Peter
are you out there?
Thank you Paul.
--
- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <kayaker37@h...> wrote:
Bevans still have his BW? Did Bolger's ideas work in this case? Was it
enjoyable to sail? If this one was lost would he build another? Peter
are you out there?
Thank you Paul.
--
- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <kayaker37@h...> wrote:
> Didn't work try this:20Birdwatcher/
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger5/files/Peter%20Bevan%27s%
>
> Paul
Didn't work try this:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger5/files/Peter%20Bevan%27s%20Birdwatcher/
Paul
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger5/files/Peter%20Bevan%27s%20Birdwatcher/
Paul
I zipped up the backup and put it in bolger5 files section. I'll
delete after a week or so. The hi res pics are in individual folders.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger5/files/Peter%20Bevan%27s%20Birdwatcher//
Paul
delete after a week or so. The hi res pics are in individual folders.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger5/files/Peter%20Bevan%27s%20Birdwatcher//
Paul
> Does anybody have those pictures somewhere that they could share?
>
> Thank you.
Paul
I would be grateful for any information you may have. I am constantly
thinking about building one. Maybe a dose of reality would cure me.
Thank you.
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <kayaker37@h...> wrote:
I would be grateful for any information you may have. I am constantly
thinking about building one. Maybe a dose of reality would cure me.
Thank you.
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <kayaker37@h...> wrote:
>
> He had put the website up on another server for a while, I have that
> backed up. I'm running out the door, let me know if you still need
> them, or if I should post the old site up somewhere long enough for
> you to copy everything.
>
> Hopefully Peter won't mind.
>
> Paul
>
> > Does anybody have those pictures somewhere that they could share?
> >
> > Thank you.
He had put the website up on another server for a while, I have that
backed up. I'm running out the door, let me know if you still need
them, or if I should post the old site up somewhere long enough for
you to copy everything.
Hopefully Peter won't mind.
Paul
backed up. I'm running out the door, let me know if you still need
them, or if I should post the old site up somewhere long enough for
you to copy everything.
Hopefully Peter won't mind.
Paul
> Does anybody have those pictures somewhere that they could share?
>
> Thank you.
There are bits and pieces of a web site that a Peter Bevans from
Scotland had concerning building and launching one of the first BW's.
The pieces can be found using the Wayback Machine. Some text portions
can be retrieved but I can not find the pictures. The site orginally
was www.sharpie.u-net.com.
Does anybody have those pictures somewhere that they could share?
Thank you.
Scotland had concerning building and launching one of the first BW's.
The pieces can be found using the Wayback Machine. Some text portions
can be retrieved but I can not find the pictures. The site orginally
was www.sharpie.u-net.com.
Does anybody have those pictures somewhere that they could share?
Thank you.