Re: Wave Height
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...> wrote:
of the holes to some of the peaks. But so what :-) In a small boat of
ones own making, this sort of stuff is great for fueling the imaginary
globe-trotting sailor in most of us.We just have to develope some
tunnel vision,block out the shoreline,and picture ourselves out in the
middle of nowhere ticking off the miles to somewhere.Having a nice
cozy dry cabin filled with food and drink makes the whole scenario all
the more fun since it also gives us a smug I'm-completely-self-
sufficient-and-free-from-landlubberly-concerns-catch-me-if-you-can
feeling inside.
With the magic of ones own imagination,our "weeks at sea" take a few
hours and our distant un-inhabited tropical island destination soon
looms large on our horizon in the form of a marina or boat launch
ramp.Shifting gears,we enter our marina or launch ramp feeling like
what we imagine the great ocean adventures must have felt like after a
rough trans-atlantic or pacific crossing...solo and for the first
time.Even after the boat is all secured to the quay or trailer,we can
continue our make-believe scenario by snuggling up inside our warm dry
cabin,rustling up some warm tasty food,while peering out through rain
spattled portlights,and thank god we have the wits about us to enjoy
such games in the first place.
It sure beats the hell out of even the best day at the office :-)
Thanks for the neat picture Richard!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,who must have circled the globe several times now and
discovered dozen tropical islands uniquely inhabited by nubile natives
hungering for a change and all this without ever leaving the realm of
the mighty St.Lawrence..........talk about cheap vactions!!!
> I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, aboutLooks like it could be anywhere from about two to three feet in some
> two feet?
>
>http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
of the holes to some of the peaks. But so what :-) In a small boat of
ones own making, this sort of stuff is great for fueling the imaginary
globe-trotting sailor in most of us.We just have to develope some
tunnel vision,block out the shoreline,and picture ourselves out in the
middle of nowhere ticking off the miles to somewhere.Having a nice
cozy dry cabin filled with food and drink makes the whole scenario all
the more fun since it also gives us a smug I'm-completely-self-
sufficient-and-free-from-landlubberly-concerns-catch-me-if-you-can
feeling inside.
With the magic of ones own imagination,our "weeks at sea" take a few
hours and our distant un-inhabited tropical island destination soon
looms large on our horizon in the form of a marina or boat launch
ramp.Shifting gears,we enter our marina or launch ramp feeling like
what we imagine the great ocean adventures must have felt like after a
rough trans-atlantic or pacific crossing...solo and for the first
time.Even after the boat is all secured to the quay or trailer,we can
continue our make-believe scenario by snuggling up inside our warm dry
cabin,rustling up some warm tasty food,while peering out through rain
spattled portlights,and thank god we have the wits about us to enjoy
such games in the first place.
It sure beats the hell out of even the best day at the office :-)
Thanks for the neat picture Richard!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,who must have circled the globe several times now and
discovered dozen tropical islands uniquely inhabited by nubile natives
hungering for a change and all this without ever leaving the realm of
the mighty St.Lawrence..........talk about cheap vactions!!!
"Skimmer" is cool, a fun and cheap,fast boat that just about everyone could smile at,...but I'm sorry that 55' sharpie is just plain ugly-to the extreme almost! What a joke-she can't be considered beautiful, in anyway to look at, really we all know that Bolger loves extremes, this may be a joke of his to design the ugliest boat that for its purpose that is ultimately usable?? ... and beauty is only skin deep anyway? A weird paradox?.... No, she's ( the 55' live-aoard sharpie) VERY BAD TO THE EYE IN 2D, but she probbly would look a bit better in real life, still ugly though!!
I don't know, but just the fact on the profile, Bolger's sketched in silhouettes of some other of his designs on that block-like hull he realises that this boat is not an eye-pleaser?...... some camoflague is needed!!!!!!??
Look, seriously its a practical, motive ,live-aboard home, but maybe I don't think you'd tell anyone where you live if you were living in that craft!!!. Take it to some swamp, strike the masts, dazzle-paint it, and hope no one finds you!@!!
Phil's designed some of the most beautiful boats and also the most ugliest, but they all have their purposes(whether fullfilled or not - it doesn,t matter, some dreams are shattered by reality!!)
I'm just expressing my opinions, I still think Bolger is the best Small Boat (150' or smaller ) ever, well with 600-700 designs and innovative concepts, he has to be!
Sincerely, Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
Here is another ugly boat,
that looks better in three dimensions:
$100 in New Jersey, a steal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5577920834
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I don't know, but just the fact on the profile, Bolger's sketched in silhouettes of some other of his designs on that block-like hull he realises that this boat is not an eye-pleaser?...... some camoflague is needed!!!!!!??
Look, seriously its a practical, motive ,live-aboard home, but maybe I don't think you'd tell anyone where you live if you were living in that craft!!!. Take it to some swamp, strike the masts, dazzle-paint it, and hope no one finds you!@!!
Phil's designed some of the most beautiful boats and also the most ugliest, but they all have their purposes(whether fullfilled or not - it doesn,t matter, some dreams are shattered by reality!!)
I'm just expressing my opinions, I still think Bolger is the best Small Boat (150' or smaller ) ever, well with 600-700 designs and innovative concepts, he has to be!
Sincerely, Hugo Tyson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia.
Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
Here is another ugly boat,
that looks better in three dimensions:
$100 in New Jersey, a steal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5577920834
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Here is another ugly boat,
that looks better in three dimensions:
$100 in New Jersey, a steal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5577920834
that looks better in three dimensions:
$100 in New Jersey, a steal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5577920834
That sounds like it, Richard. The old bone-in-her-teeth bit. As I've
heard from Down Under folks in their great vernacular, "Good on
you!." But watch out for those Budweiser Tumors -- the over the belt
sort!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...>
wrote:
heard from Down Under folks in their great vernacular, "Good on
you!." But watch out for those Budweiser Tumors -- the over the belt
sort!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...>
wrote:
> That was Schroedinger.motor
>
> She pounded a bit going to weather, and they washed up into the
> well when running, but other than that she pretty much ignoredthem.
> Wind was 14knots plus on the wind meter. Running with motor andevery
> stich of sail up, averaged 7-8mph, with the occasional burst to8.4mph.
>about
> Beating we were averaging about 4.5 with the boat self steering,
> 6 if I took the tiller.tiller
>
> Spent about 6 hours going to weather in this, mostly with the
> bungied up and the boat steering itself, while I partookbudweiser...
>wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@a...>
> > Why, Yes, it looks like about 16" to 2'and maybe a bit more nowand
> > then. The boat is your Chebacco? How did it handle the waves?I'd
> > think that it'd heel and dig in--then scoot perhaps with a reefor
> > two. But perhaps that wasn't your Chebacco?about
> >
> > Dick of Stealing Horses
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...>
> wrote:
> > > I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think,
> > > two feet?
> > >
> > >http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
Yeah, looks like about 2 ft max. Great sailing weather, great
conditions. Also looks like you had some fun.
TomP
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...>
wrote:
conditions. Also looks like you had some fun.
TomP
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...>
wrote:
> I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, about
> two feet?
>
>http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
That was Schroedinger.
She pounded a bit going to weather, and they washed up into the motor
well when running, but other than that she pretty much ignored them.
Wind was 14knots plus on the wind meter. Running with motor and every
stich of sail up, averaged 7-8mph, with the occasional burst to 8.4mph.
Beating we were averaging about 4.5 with the boat self steering, about
6 if I took the tiller.
Spent about 6 hours going to weather in this, mostly with the tiller
bungied up and the boat steering itself, while I partook budweiser...
She pounded a bit going to weather, and they washed up into the motor
well when running, but other than that she pretty much ignored them.
Wind was 14knots plus on the wind meter. Running with motor and every
stich of sail up, averaged 7-8mph, with the occasional burst to 8.4mph.
Beating we were averaging about 4.5 with the boat self steering, about
6 if I took the tiller.
Spent about 6 hours going to weather in this, mostly with the tiller
bungied up and the boat steering itself, while I partook budweiser...
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "seagulloutb" <dickburnham1@a...> wrote:
> Why, Yes, it looks like about 16" to 2'and maybe a bit more now and
> then. The boat is your Chebacco? How did it handle the waves? I'd
> think that it'd heel and dig in--then scoot perhaps with a reef or
> two. But perhaps that wasn't your Chebacco?
>
> Dick of Stealing Horses
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...>
wrote:
> > I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, about
> > two feet?
> >
> >http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
Why, Yes, it looks like about 16" to 2'and maybe a bit more now and
then. The boat is your Chebacco? How did it handle the waves? I'd
think that it'd heel and dig in--then scoot perhaps with a reef or
two. But perhaps that wasn't your Chebacco?
Dick of Stealing Horses
then. The boat is your Chebacco? How did it handle the waves? I'd
think that it'd heel and dig in--then scoot perhaps with a reef or
two. But perhaps that wasn't your Chebacco?
Dick of Stealing Horses
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Spelling" <richard@r...> wrote:
> I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, about
> two feet?
>
>http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
Why should you be different? Waves are "fractal," like clouds. A little
one, up close, looks just like a big one at a distance.
I found out recently that the USCG reports "wave height" as the distance of
the peak above the mean sea level. Peak to valley is twice that.
When the waves are significant, one looks up the face of the wave as the
boat heels, so one measures the diagonal.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://home.earthlink.net/~derbyrm
one, up close, looks just like a big one at a distance.
I found out recently that the USCG reports "wave height" as the distance of
the peak above the mean sea level. Peak to valley is twice that.
When the waves are significant, one looks up the face of the wave as the
boat heels, so one measures the diagonal.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://home.earthlink.net/~derbyrm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
> I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, about
> two feet?
>
>http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
I'm no good at estimating it either, but I think this would have me heading for home. Looks wet and cold!
Bill
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Spelling
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:36 AM
Subject: [bolger] Wave Height
I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, about
two feet?
http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
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I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, about
two feet?
<http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG>http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
I'd say 18 inches to 2 ft max but it's really hard to tell without
something to provide scale. A small boat (eg sailing canoe) can really be a
fun ride in 1-2 ft chop on the Chesapeake because it's steep -- whack,
wham, whump.
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two feet?
<http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG>http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
I'd say 18 inches to 2 ft max but it's really hard to tell without
something to provide scale. A small boat (eg sailing canoe) can really be a
fun ride in 1-2 ft chop on the Chesapeake because it's steep -- whack,
wham, whump.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________
-- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist
-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
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I'm notoriously bad at estimating wave height. Whatcha think, about
two feet?
http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG
two feet?
http://www.richardspelling.com/temp/P1010013.JPG