Re: plywood question
I suppose there is quite a bit of variability in what HD carries. I've
used virola on projects around the house over the years. Most was good
stuff. Some delaminated just from sitting around in the shop.
Doug
used virola on projects around the house over the years. Most was good
stuff. Some delaminated just from sitting around in the shop.
Doug
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "James W. Sloan" <jamessloan@m...> wrote:
> I used Virola from the orange box to put together a Bateau Cheap
Canoe. It
> worked pretty easily and passed a boil-freeze-dishwasher test just
fine. It
> isn't particularly heavy duty and tends to soak up a lot of epoxy.
I've been
> using the boat frequently for a couple of years and have had no
problems. I
> 'glassed the joints with 4" and the entire bottom with 4 oz. cloth.
>
> Just one man's experience...others?
>
> James Sloan
> Saint Simons Island, GA
I used Virola from the orange box to put together a Bateau Cheap Canoe. It
worked pretty easily and passed a boil-freeze-dishwasher test just fine. It
isn't particularly heavy duty and tends to soak up a lot of epoxy. I've been
using the boat frequently for a couple of years and have had no problems. I
'glassed the joints with 4" and the entire bottom with 4 oz. cloth.
Just one man's experience...others?
James Sloan
Saint Simons Island, GA
worked pretty easily and passed a boil-freeze-dishwasher test just fine. It
isn't particularly heavy duty and tends to soak up a lot of epoxy. I've been
using the boat frequently for a couple of years and have had no problems. I
'glassed the joints with 4" and the entire bottom with 4 oz. cloth.
Just one man's experience...others?
James Sloan
Saint Simons Island, GA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryant Owen" <mariner@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:52 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: plywood question
> Sounds like Virola. Virola is noted for a) absorbing water - not a
> problem I'm sure if you seal it and b) the sap is hallucinogenic. I
> doubt the glue is "waterproof".
>
> I ran into someone several years ago who built a small skiff or
> something with it. Never heard how it worked.
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbship" <gbship@c...> wrote:
>> The local Lowes is carrying a new type of plywood, labeled 1/4" or 5.2
>> mm exterior hardwood ply. In consturction, it's like the exterior luaun
>> that used to be available, except the faces might be a bit thicker. The
>> color of the outside face is either a light reddish brown, or white.
>> Look's like pretty good quality with few if any voids, although there
>> is some putty of the flaws on the face plies. Anybody know what kind of
>> wood this is or maybe have used it in a boat?
>>
>> thanx
>>
>> Gary Blankenship
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dnjost" <davidjost@v...> wrote:
fact, I'm confident that it would be a much better build with the
experience you have acquired over the intervening years ;-)
Would epoxy not stand up as well if it too were "properly
maintained"....hmmmm....I think it would :-D
Happy boating season!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,totally unskilled with polyester resin.........
> I just finished resurrecting the 15 year old Pointy Skiff....I have found that epoxy
> degrades faster over the years, whereas properly maintainedpolyester
> will keep going and going. A lot of bang for the buck!Sounds like it's time to build another boat to replace her David.In
>
> David Jost
fact, I'm confident that it would be a much better build with the
experience you have acquired over the intervening years ;-)
Would epoxy not stand up as well if it too were "properly
maintained"....hmmmm....I think it would :-D
Happy boating season!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,totally unskilled with polyester resin.........
I just finished resurrecting the 15 year old Pointy Skiff made with
Luan ply for the sides and 3/8" Marine Ply on the bottom. The marine
ply is solid, whereas the sides are almost non-existant due to
delamination and rot. I usually grind out the rot with an angle
grinder and then fill with progressively larger layers of cloth set in
epoxy. the boat is now about 40% epoxy/cloth composite. Quite
expensive in the long run.
On a side note, I ran into the man who bought my Nymph that I built 20
years ago using 1/4" exterior grade fir ply covered in cloth set in
polyester resin and sealed with polyester resin on the inside. He
state's that it is still in great shape despite constant misuse and
neglect. That says a lot about Bolger's original intent and the
durability of polyester resin vs. epoxy. I have found that epoxy
degrades faster over the years, whereas properly maintained polyester
will keep going and going. A lot of bang for the buck!
David Jost
Luan ply for the sides and 3/8" Marine Ply on the bottom. The marine
ply is solid, whereas the sides are almost non-existant due to
delamination and rot. I usually grind out the rot with an angle
grinder and then fill with progressively larger layers of cloth set in
epoxy. the boat is now about 40% epoxy/cloth composite. Quite
expensive in the long run.
On a side note, I ran into the man who bought my Nymph that I built 20
years ago using 1/4" exterior grade fir ply covered in cloth set in
polyester resin and sealed with polyester resin on the inside. He
state's that it is still in great shape despite constant misuse and
neglect. That says a lot about Bolger's original intent and the
durability of polyester resin vs. epoxy. I have found that epoxy
degrades faster over the years, whereas properly maintained polyester
will keep going and going. A lot of bang for the buck!
David Jost
I see this stuff occasionally at some Lowes stores. I've also seen it
at Home Depot. Definitely not virola. What I saw was just luaan with
thicker outer plies than the usual underlayment. It has waterproof
glue and would make a nice boat.
You have to buy it up when you can get it because it may be a year
before it shows up again.
Doug
at Home Depot. Definitely not virola. What I saw was just luaan with
thicker outer plies than the usual underlayment. It has waterproof
glue and would make a nice boat.
You have to buy it up when you can get it because it may be a year
before it shows up again.
Doug
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bryant Owen" <mariner@n...> wrote:
> Sounds like Virola. Virola is noted for a) absorbing water - not a
> problem I'm sure if you seal it and b) the sap is hallucinogenic. I
> doubt the glue is "waterproof".
>
> I ran into someone several years ago who built a small skiff or
> something with it. Never heard how it worked.
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbship" <gbship@c...> wrote:
> > The local Lowes is carrying a new type of plywood, labeled 1/4" or
5.2
> > mm exterior hardwood ply. In consturction, it's like the exterior
luaun
> > that used to be available, except the faces might be a bit
thicker. The
> > color of the outside face is either a light reddish brown, or white.
> > Look's like pretty good quality with few if any voids, although there
> > is some putty of the flaws on the face plies. Anybody know what
kind of
> > wood this is or maybe have used it in a boat?
> >
> > thanx
> >
> > Gary Blankenship
Sounds like Virola. Virola is noted for a) absorbing water - not a
problem I'm sure if you seal it and b) the sap is hallucinogenic. I
doubt the glue is "waterproof".
I ran into someone several years ago who built a small skiff or
something with it. Never heard how it worked.
Bryant
problem I'm sure if you seal it and b) the sap is hallucinogenic. I
doubt the glue is "waterproof".
I ran into someone several years ago who built a small skiff or
something with it. Never heard how it worked.
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbship" <gbship@c...> wrote:
> The local Lowes is carrying a new type of plywood, labeled 1/4" or 5.2
> mm exterior hardwood ply. In consturction, it's like the exterior luaun
> that used to be available, except the faces might be a bit thicker. The
> color of the outside face is either a light reddish brown, or white.
> Look's like pretty good quality with few if any voids, although there
> is some putty of the flaws on the face plies. Anybody know what kind of
> wood this is or maybe have used it in a boat?
>
> thanx
>
> Gary Blankenship
The local Lowes is carrying a new type of plywood, labeled 1/4" or 5.2
mm exterior hardwood ply. In consturction, it's like the exterior luaun
that used to be available, except the faces might be a bit thicker. The
color of the outside face is either a light reddish brown, or white.
Look's like pretty good quality with few if any voids, although there
is some putty of the flaws on the face plies. Anybody know what kind of
wood this is or maybe have used it in a boat?
thanx
Gary Blankenship
mm exterior hardwood ply. In consturction, it's like the exterior luaun
that used to be available, except the faces might be a bit thicker. The
color of the outside face is either a light reddish brown, or white.
Look's like pretty good quality with few if any voids, although there
is some putty of the flaws on the face plies. Anybody know what kind of
wood this is or maybe have used it in a boat?
thanx
Gary Blankenship