Re: Plywood??
This is why I try to buy at the local lumber yards when I can instead
of the big box stores. It promotes and preserves a local body of
expertise/knowledge as well as helping the local economy. The price
difference is usually negligable, and sometimes the local stores are
even cheaper if you can believe it.
I had a plywood question just last week and the guy at the counter of
the local yard got on the phone right there, called his supplier and
got an answer. I don't get that kind of service from the local big box
stores.
Regards,
of the big box stores. It promotes and preserves a local body of
expertise/knowledge as well as helping the local economy. The price
difference is usually negligable, and sometimes the local stores are
even cheaper if you can believe it.
I had a plywood question just last week and the guy at the counter of
the local yard got on the phone right there, called his supplier and
got an answer. I don't get that kind of service from the local big box
stores.
Regards,
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, catboat15@a... wrote:
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> So dug out the study plans for Bolger's and Payson's Cartopper and
started
> around the local home centers for some plywood.
> That was a joke, one home center when I asked the kid if they had ACX
he
> didn't know what that was, so narrowed it down to just exterior ply.
He informed
> me with a serious manner that none of their plywood is exterior as it
is kept
> inside their warehouse. OK next home center where they had some
great
> looking "Good one side" plywood about 1/4 inch, but only a couple
sheets. Looked
> great but even talking to the manager they had no idea if the glue
was water
> resistant. have been removed]
Several months ago I gave away my 14'-6" Shell "Swifty" that I built quite a
few years ago. Nice boat, but with that 6 foot beam was too wide to row
comfortably plus not much sailing water up here in the high desert. Well a couple
of weeks ago I got the (yen? compulsion? desire? want?) whatever for another
boat. Perhaps it was all the rain we had this last season and the dam
overflowing and still flooding some roads.
So dug out the study plans for Bolger's and Payson's Cartopper and started
around the local home centers for some plywood.
That was a joke, one home center when I asked the kid if they had ACX he
didn't know what that was, so narrowed it down to just exterior ply. He informed
me with a serious manner that none of their plywood is exterior as it is kept
inside their warehouse. OK next home center where they had some great
looking "Good one side" plywood about 1/4 inch, but only a couple sheets. Looked
great but even talking to the manager they had no idea if the glue was water
resistant. I could not find any grade markings on any of the ply at our three
home centers near here, so finally had to order 4 sheets of ACX from down
below (Los Angeles Basin is "down below" to us desert folks. along with delivery
charges it was high, plus by not being able to examine before delivery I
think maybe the place thought "Here is where we can get rid of those "dogs" that
have been in the pile forever)
Payson goes to great lengths in "The New Instant Boats" about not beveling
the transom after gluing on the framing, but to bevel the ply and the frame
separate then glue, but for the life of me I can't see why not if you allow
for the material removed in cutting the bevels to the mark, so that is what I
am going to do. I did get one chunk of 1/2 inch ply and cut rudder and center
board out of that instead of layers of 1/4 inch as well as making the stem
from 4 layers of 1/2 rather then 8 of 1/4 inch for the two inch thickness
called out. Still confused about the rudder cheeks and some other details, but
getting there (drawings show 4 "cheeks" of 1/4 inch so cutting two out of 1/2
inch. and only assuming there are filler blocks of 3/4 inch stock in between the
cheeks.
John Meacham
High desert of California
Bolger Cartopper.
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few years ago. Nice boat, but with that 6 foot beam was too wide to row
comfortably plus not much sailing water up here in the high desert. Well a couple
of weeks ago I got the (yen? compulsion? desire? want?) whatever for another
boat. Perhaps it was all the rain we had this last season and the dam
overflowing and still flooding some roads.
So dug out the study plans for Bolger's and Payson's Cartopper and started
around the local home centers for some plywood.
That was a joke, one home center when I asked the kid if they had ACX he
didn't know what that was, so narrowed it down to just exterior ply. He informed
me with a serious manner that none of their plywood is exterior as it is kept
inside their warehouse. OK next home center where they had some great
looking "Good one side" plywood about 1/4 inch, but only a couple sheets. Looked
great but even talking to the manager they had no idea if the glue was water
resistant. I could not find any grade markings on any of the ply at our three
home centers near here, so finally had to order 4 sheets of ACX from down
below (Los Angeles Basin is "down below" to us desert folks. along with delivery
charges it was high, plus by not being able to examine before delivery I
think maybe the place thought "Here is where we can get rid of those "dogs" that
have been in the pile forever)
Payson goes to great lengths in "The New Instant Boats" about not beveling
the transom after gluing on the framing, but to bevel the ply and the frame
separate then glue, but for the life of me I can't see why not if you allow
for the material removed in cutting the bevels to the mark, so that is what I
am going to do. I did get one chunk of 1/2 inch ply and cut rudder and center
board out of that instead of layers of 1/4 inch as well as making the stem
from 4 layers of 1/2 rather then 8 of 1/4 inch for the two inch thickness
called out. Still confused about the rudder cheeks and some other details, but
getting there (drawings show 4 "cheeks" of 1/4 inch so cutting two out of 1/2
inch. and only assuming there are filler blocks of 3/4 inch stock in between the
cheeks.
John Meacham
High desert of California
Bolger Cartopper.
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