Topaz Spyder
Bruce, Now that you're well along in building, how do you find working
with MDO? Also do you think one could take 2 feet out of the middle of
Topaz length? I have been looking at the expansions and the offsets
and it looks like it would not change shape too much. I really want to
use the hull as an open fishing or work boat.Clyde
with MDO? Also do you think one could take 2 feet out of the middle of
Topaz length? I have been looking at the expansions and the offsets
and it looks like it would not change shape too much. I really want to
use the hull as an open fishing or work boat.Clyde
Hi Bruce,
I remember when that Mexican (?) tall ship with the unpronouncable name was in Dundee harbour 4 or 5 years ago and I sailed past her in my Chebacco.
The crew were by far the most immaculate of all the sailors visiting the city. They'd have put Lord Nelson to shame!
Small world (if you live in a tall ship).
Bill
I remember when that Mexican (?) tall ship with the unpronouncable name was in Dundee harbour 4 or 5 years ago and I sailed past her in my Chebacco.
The crew were by far the most immaculate of all the sailors visiting the city. They'd have put Lord Nelson to shame!
Small world (if you live in a tall ship).
Bill
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Just back this morning from some plain ol' messin' about
in my sweet 'Cartoon 5' rowboat, here is one picture.
http://hallman.org/hallman/TallShips.jpg
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> So I'd look to the competed Topaz boats for direction more than theIsn't Topaz essentially 'on plane' at rest?
> designer. The prototype does well w' 75. I wouldn't cut 1/3rd of the
> HP guessing the weight and windage of the top will make that much
> difference, getting up on plane.
More for my intended purpose, I think I need the horsepower
for accelerating the water skiing kids.
> RE finish, IMO build of MDO, then glue on door skin accents finishedYes, I want the boat to look 'good enough' to satisfy the 'look'n cool'
> bright. Don
requirements of the kids, but I am not seeing this boat as a long
term investment that requires gold plating.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
most obvious example of this was on Retriever, and this was despite
success in the series, Bee, Microtrawler, and Hawkeye. Also, Fast
Motor Sailer becomes an outstanding power cruiser w' 150 hp, but might
otherwise use only 25 or less if you don't want to get up on plane and
fly. Those who've built Cabin Clam Skiff, seem to like big engines.
So I'd look to the competed Topaz boats for direction more than the
designer. The prototype does well w' 75. I wouldn't cut 1/3rd of the
HP guessing the weight and windage of the top will make that much
difference, getting up on plane. I would throttle the 75 back and
enjoy the reduced noise level.
RE finish, IMO build of MDO, then glue on door skin accents finished
bright. I think that is kind of what Bolger suggests in the essay.
Don
> > 50 HP was a better choice. Cheaper too.IMO if Bolger misses an HP requirement, he will tend to miss low. The
> > JB
>
> I appreciate that advice, sounds good.
> I will also be asking PCB his thoughts, usually they are right on.
most obvious example of this was on Retriever, and this was despite
success in the series, Bee, Microtrawler, and Hawkeye. Also, Fast
Motor Sailer becomes an outstanding power cruiser w' 150 hp, but might
otherwise use only 25 or less if you don't want to get up on plane and
fly. Those who've built Cabin Clam Skiff, seem to like big engines.
So I'd look to the competed Topaz boats for direction more than the
designer. The prototype does well w' 75. I wouldn't cut 1/3rd of the
HP guessing the weight and windage of the top will make that much
difference, getting up on plane. I would throttle the 75 back and
enjoy the reduced noise level.
RE finish, IMO build of MDO, then glue on door skin accents finished
bright. I think that is kind of what Bolger suggests in the essay.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
I've been thinking of your Spyder:
considering that this type and style of boat is likely to have
considerable market appeal for all the obvious reasons
(trailerability,outboard power practicality and sexability) it may
well be worth going the extra mile to build her "Bristol fashion"
with no skimping on materials or the "sanding between multiple
coats" approach to finishing.Granted, your stated use period is
windowed at 5 years and by then you'll surely want to dispose of her
to build another boat so why not get the max return possible out of
her by doing it "right" and thus netting a goodly sum to finance
that next boat(s).
Now,go back to that lovely picture you posted for us; imagine THAT
guy with a mitt full of hair grease slicking back those wild locks,a
white un-buttoned cotton shirt and some black wrap-around"don't fook
with me mista" sunglasses behind the wheel of a decked out sexy
SPYDER "cruisin'" along the water front......hmmmmm.....James Bond
eat yer heart out :-D
Sincerely,
Peter"would still love to see the time chart" Lenihan, with a head
full of scenarios for a Sexy Spyder and her captain..........
> Just back this morning from some plain ol' messin' aboutColour me green with envy(yet again!)! Lovely photo!
> in my sweet 'Cartoon 5' rowboat, here is one picture.
>
>http://hallman.org/hallman/TallShips.jpg
I've been thinking of your Spyder:
considering that this type and style of boat is likely to have
considerable market appeal for all the obvious reasons
(trailerability,outboard power practicality and sexability) it may
well be worth going the extra mile to build her "Bristol fashion"
with no skimping on materials or the "sanding between multiple
coats" approach to finishing.Granted, your stated use period is
windowed at 5 years and by then you'll surely want to dispose of her
to build another boat so why not get the max return possible out of
her by doing it "right" and thus netting a goodly sum to finance
that next boat(s).
Now,go back to that lovely picture you posted for us; imagine THAT
guy with a mitt full of hair grease slicking back those wild locks,a
white un-buttoned cotton shirt and some black wrap-around"don't fook
with me mista" sunglasses behind the wheel of a decked out sexy
SPYDER "cruisin'" along the water front......hmmmmm.....James Bond
eat yer heart out :-D
Sincerely,
Peter"would still love to see the time chart" Lenihan, with a head
full of scenarios for a Sexy Spyder and her captain..........
Bruce, I have the 50 high-thrust Bolger recommends.
It is plenty of engine for 12kt cruising and can push
the boat loaded at 18kts wide open, so the Spyder with
that motor ought to be able to approach 20, with its
lower weight and windage. Brad Raby had a 75 on his,
hull "1", and he did indeed think it was more than he
needed. You might want to stick with the higher hp if
you plan a lot of skiing/towing-type watersports, so
as not to be running opened up all the time. The
narrow-sterned Topaz will squat with a lot of power
applied unless the motor is mounted so that the cav.
plate is at the level of the hull. I keep mine down
an inch or so to prevent cavitation in a steep chop,
but in a lake setting you can keep her in "speedboat
mode"--with a 75 she should really fly. Sam
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It is plenty of engine for 12kt cruising and can push
the boat loaded at 18kts wide open, so the Spyder with
that motor ought to be able to approach 20, with its
lower weight and windage. Brad Raby had a 75 on his,
hull "1", and he did indeed think it was more than he
needed. You might want to stick with the higher hp if
you plan a lot of skiing/towing-type watersports, so
as not to be running opened up all the time. The
narrow-sterned Topaz will squat with a lot of power
applied unless the motor is mounted so that the cav.
plate is at the level of the hull. I keep mine down
an inch or so to prevent cavitation in a steep chop,
but in a lake setting you can keep her in "speedboat
mode"--with a 75 she should really fly. Sam
--- Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
> > 50 HP was a better choice. Cheaper too.__________________________________________________
> > JB
>
> I appreciate that advice, sounds good.
> I will also be asking PCB his thoughts, usually they
> are right on.
>
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Great Picture! It even makes me feel good and I am working in a hot
garage building a kayak for the Colorado 100. Just came in to cool
off... 90 degrees, but a lot cooler than the last week.
garage building a kayak for the Colorado 100. Just came in to cool
off... 90 degrees, but a lot cooler than the last week.
Keep that healthy exercise up and 20 more years is easy, should go for 40.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
>Just back this morning from some plain ol' messin' about
>in my sweet 'Cartoon 5' rowboat, here is one picture.
>
>http://hallman.org/hallman/TallShips.jpg
>
>
>
Just back this morning from some plain ol' messin' about
in my sweet 'Cartoon 5' rowboat, here is one picture.
http://hallman.org/hallman/TallShips.jpg
in my sweet 'Cartoon 5' rowboat, here is one picture.
http://hallman.org/hallman/TallShips.jpg
> 50 HP was a better choice. Cheaper too.I appreciate that advice, sounds good.
> JB
I will also be asking PCB his thoughts, usually they are right on.
As I recall, that builder put the boat in the water in this form then
brought her back for the cabin.
Don
brought her back for the cabin.
Don
If you dig back through the archives on this group you'll find that the
builder of the prototype Topaz talked about his choice of a 75 HP over the
50 suggested by PCB&F. IRRC, he said it was too much and that in retrospect
50 HP was a better choice. Cheaper too.
FWIW, as long as you can go 18-20 mph you are fast enough to pull an
inflatable. I routinely pull my kids at 15 mph and they like it just fine.
We can go over 20 mph, but the thrills aren't so much greater as to justify
nearly double the fuel burn.
JB
builder of the prototype Topaz talked about his choice of a 75 HP over the
50 suggested by PCB&F. IRRC, he said it was too much and that in retrospect
50 HP was a better choice. Cheaper too.
FWIW, as long as you can go 18-20 mph you are fast enough to pull an
inflatable. I routinely pull my kids at 15 mph and they like it just fine.
We can go over 20 mph, but the thrills aren't so much greater as to justify
nearly double the fuel burn.
JB
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From: "donschultz8275" <donschultz@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Topaz Spyder
| Congrats on the decision. Should be a terrific laker, handsome and
| robust. Also capable of many different missions w' 75hp. Water
| skiing to cruising under a bimini.
|
| Best wishes for a very good build.
|
| Don
|
|
> As a generality, kids are a great drag on a man's boating life, secondI have 'cleared' this with my S.O. [who likes the idea]
> only to a recluctant wife, unless of course they get bitten by the
> boating bug and are the single greatest boon.
and my kid who declares that this boat is 'hecka cool'
and my calculations that it will make a great lake
party platform for a gaggle of teenagers.
http://hallman.org/bolger/650/FullLength.jpg
shows a picture I grabbed off the web of a Topaz
sans cabin, showing roughly what a Spyder will
look like [add the windshield in your minds eye]
Congrats on the decision. Should be a terrific laker, handsome and
robust. Also capable of many different missions w' 75hp. Water
skiing to cruising under a bimini.
Best wishes for a very good build.
Don
robust. Also capable of many different missions w' 75hp. Water
skiing to cruising under a bimini.
Best wishes for a very good build.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> Announcing a milestone of sorts:
>
> My family and I have decided that
> we need a Topaz Spyder for summer
> use at the lake. It passes the tough
> approval test of my teenager, being
> cool looking enough to be 'seen in'
> and big enough to carry all her friends.
>
> And, it passes the 'sniff test'
> of my own, as wow, there are so many
> overpowered, low freeboard, 'testosterone'
> boats on the lake right now that fail
> that test.
>
> Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
> be ready by next summer.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/650/650-2.gif
> The revelation I had, that lead to the need to build a Spyder is thatAs a generality, kids are a great drag on a man's boating life, second
> for the next five years or so, my summer vacations are going to
> revolve around entertaining teenagers. When my kid is off to
> college, or whatever, I then can turn to getting a cabin cruiser,
> either a top on my existing Topaz hull, or another boat.
>
> So in short, this Spyder has a five year life horizon.
only to a recluctant wife, unless of course they get bitten by the
boating bug and are the single greatest boon. Our over-programmed
children keep themselves and their transporters busy on land going to
ball games, dance lessons, etc. Once they reach high school, these
things can prevent the family from getting a decent vacation together.
Neither of my kids was very interesting in boating, but neither did we
have any teenage behavior problems and they were always pretty
cooperative.
A well-done Spyder should be a spectacular craft. An interesting
comparison to the Sneakeasy.
Peter
> Whaddya mean"next summer"? Expecting snow any time soon in sunnyI am lowering expectations, knowing that my guesses of how long
> Californ-i-a? :-)
it will take always come up short. The truth is that Topaz Spyder
is a simple boat, though big.
I haven't totally settled on where to build her, with some
negotiations in the family still necessary. I have three
locations in my backyard that are possible. I am leaning
towards the one closest to the kitchen door, but that
will be 'right there' filling up the side yard. Also, that
would require a new larger 'door' in the back wall of the
garage, and ultimately the boat would need to extract
through the garage to the street. Cover is not essential
here in California (340 days of the year, we *do* have
15 days of winter), but I might put cover up anyway.
> Will you be working alone or getting help?Mostly alone, but there are enough teenage kids
around that can be enlisted for the flip.
> Are you gonna break down and use MDO for her?Yes, definitely, mostly because I hope to eliminate
as much fiberglass work as I can. I will consult with
PCB, but I am even tempted to eliminate it on the
bottom. I will 'up the finish' quality on certain visible
areas, such as the forward deck, and windshield
trim. Also I am thinking of using some nicer wood
[and woodwork] on the seating benches, with a
wood slats for the seating surfaces as opposed to
built in upholstery. I am going to try using
Brightsides for the paint, though I am going to
try a test patch without the primer, putting the paint
directly on the MDO.
> Are you going to do a time chart for her now to compare with theThat takes too much fun out of the building process <g>.
> final time chart when you launch her?
> And finally,how in 'ell are you ever going to resist the temptationThe revelation I had, that lead to the need to build a Spyder is that
> to through a hard top cabin on her once you start "strolling" around
> that huge cockpit?
for the next five years or so, my summer vacations are going to
revolve around entertaining teenagers. When my kid is off to
college, or whatever, I then can turn to getting a cabin cruiser,
either a top on my existing Topaz hull, or another boat.
So in short, this Spyder has a five year life horizon.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
Californ-i-a? :-)
She is a handsome boat and will certainly be a treat to build and
use.
Here are a load of questions for you Bruce:
Where are you planning on building her?
If outside,will you be building a "shop" or shelter for the build
time?
Will you be working alone or getting help?
Are you gonna break down and use MDO for her?
Are you going to do a time chart for her now to compare with the
final
time chart when you launch her?
And finally,how in 'ell are you ever going to resist the temptation
to
through a hard top cabin on her once you start "strolling" around
that
huge cockpit?
Best of luck with her and I(as well as others I'm sure!)look forward
to seeing your progress photos.......you'll probably be finished and
launched before me:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,from where 4 seasons have a real meaning in terms of
weather changes and not just a slight cooling,as it were.....
> Announcing a milestone of sorts:Whaddya mean"next summer"? Expecting snow any time soon in sunny
>
>> Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
> be ready by next summer.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/650/650-2.gif
Californ-i-a? :-)
She is a handsome boat and will certainly be a treat to build and
use.
Here are a load of questions for you Bruce:
Where are you planning on building her?
If outside,will you be building a "shop" or shelter for the build
time?
Will you be working alone or getting help?
Are you gonna break down and use MDO for her?
Are you going to do a time chart for her now to compare with the
final
time chart when you launch her?
And finally,how in 'ell are you ever going to resist the temptation
to
through a hard top cabin on her once you start "strolling" around
that
huge cockpit?
Best of luck with her and I(as well as others I'm sure!)look forward
to seeing your progress photos.......you'll probably be finished and
launched before me:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,from where 4 seasons have a real meaning in terms of
weather changes and not just a slight cooling,as it were.....
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
Californ-i-a? :-)
She is a handsome boat and will certainly be a treat to build and
use.
Here are a load of questions for you Bruce:
Where are you planning on building her?
If outside,will you be building a "shop" or shelter for the build
time?
Will you be working alone or getting help?
Are you gonna break down and use MDO for her?
Are you going to do a time chart for her now to compare with the
final
time chart when you launch her?
And finally,how in 'ell are you ever going to resist the temptation
to
through a hard top cabin on her once you start "strolling" around
that
huge cockpit?
Best of luck with her and I(as well as others I'm sure!)look forward
to seeing your progress photos.......you'll probably be finished and
launched before me:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,from where 4 seasons have a real meaning in terms of
weather changes and not just a slight cooling,as it were.....
> Announcing a milestone of sorts:Whaddya mean"next summer"? Expecting snow any time soon in sunny
>
>> Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
> be ready by next summer.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/650/650-2.gif
Californ-i-a? :-)
She is a handsome boat and will certainly be a treat to build and
use.
Here are a load of questions for you Bruce:
Where are you planning on building her?
If outside,will you be building a "shop" or shelter for the build
time?
Will you be working alone or getting help?
Are you gonna break down and use MDO for her?
Are you going to do a time chart for her now to compare with the
final
time chart when you launch her?
And finally,how in 'ell are you ever going to resist the temptation
to
through a hard top cabin on her once you start "strolling" around
that
huge cockpit?
Best of luck with her and I(as well as others I'm sure!)look forward
to seeing your progress photos.......you'll probably be finished and
launched before me:-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,from where 4 seasons have a real meaning in terms of
weather changes and not just a slight cooling,as it were.....
I hope the finish will be a bit finer than the SpurII Project! ?
Will Samson <willsamson@...> wrote:Looking forward to seeing the launching pics, Bruce. She looks really mouthwatering!
If you keep up your usual rate of production, I suspect we'll be seeing them before too many birthdays have passed ;-)
Happy building!
Bill
Will Samson <willsamson@...> wrote:Looking forward to seeing the launching pics, Bruce. She looks really mouthwatering!
If you keep up your usual rate of production, I suspect we'll be seeing them before too many birthdays have passed ;-)
Happy building!
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hallman
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: [bolger] Topaz Spyder
Announcing a milestone of sorts:
My family and I have decided that
we need a Topaz Spyder for summer
use at the lake. It passes the tough
approval test of my teenager, being
cool looking enough to be 'seen in'
and big enough to carry all her friends.
And, it passes the 'sniff test'
of my own, as wow, there are so many
overpowered, low freeboard, 'testosterone'
boats on the lake right now that fail
that test.
Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
be ready by next summer.
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I can't wait to see her. These hulls look
intimidating on a trailer but tow eeeeasy, and launch
and retreive easily, too. The Spyder is one
great-looking boat. Like you, I find the plan-view
shape of the hull to be one of the most endearing
aspects of these boats.
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intimidating on a trailer but tow eeeeasy, and launch
and retreive easily, too. The Spyder is one
great-looking boat. Like you, I find the plan-view
shape of the hull to be one of the most endearing
aspects of these boats.
>__________________________________
> BTW, I am encouraged by your descriptions of
> trailering the hull, which seems real big to my eye!
>
> I hadn't heard of the 'wide stern mod', though one
> thing I really like about the looks of the boat is
> the
> 'double ended' taper.
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> Great, Bruce, I believe yours will be the first SpyderI am not sure if the River Thames version got built.
> built, correct? What power are you planning on? Did
> PB&F ever complet the wide-stern mod for higher power,
> as there had been talk of? Sam
I am indecisive on the power, personally I would be
happy with my 9.9 OB, but my kid and S.O. want
the boat to be fast, so I am resolved to buy a motor
to make her plane, [and know that PB&F recommend
at 50HP in the article], but my urge would be 75HP.
BTW, I am encouraged by your descriptions of
trailering the hull, which seems real big to my eye!
I hadn't heard of the 'wide stern mod', though one
thing I really like about the looks of the boat is the
'double ended' taper.
Great, Bruce, I believe yours will be the first Spyder
built, correct? What power are you planning on? Did
PB&F ever complet the wide-stern mod for higher power,
as there had been talk of? Sam
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built, correct? What power are you planning on? Did
PB&F ever complet the wide-stern mod for higher power,
as there had been talk of? Sam
--- Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
> Announcing a milestone of sorts:____________________________________________________
>
> My family and I have decided that
> we need a Topaz Spyder for summer
> use at the lake. It passes the tough
> approval test of my teenager, being
> cool looking enough to be 'seen in'
> and big enough to carry all her friends.
>
> And, it passes the 'sniff test'
> of my own, as wow, there are so many
> overpowered, low freeboard, 'testosterone'
> boats on the lake right now that fail
> that test.
>
> Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
> be ready by next summer.
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/650/650-2.gif
>
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Looking forward to seeing the launching pics, Bruce. She looks really mouthwatering!
If you keep up your usual rate of production, I suspect we'll be seeing them before too many birthdays have passed ;-)
Happy building!
Bill
If you keep up your usual rate of production, I suspect we'll be seeing them before too many birthdays have passed ;-)
Happy building!
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hallman
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: [bolger] Topaz Spyder
Announcing a milestone of sorts:
My family and I have decided that
we need a Topaz Spyder for summer
use at the lake. It passes the tough
approval test of my teenager, being
cool looking enough to be 'seen in'
and big enough to carry all her friends.
And, it passes the 'sniff test'
of my own, as wow, there are so many
overpowered, low freeboard, 'testosterone'
boats on the lake right now that fail
that test.
Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
be ready by next summer.
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Announcing a milestone of sorts:
My family and I have decided that
we need a Topaz Spyder for summer
use at the lake. It passes the tough
approval test of my teenager, being
cool looking enough to be 'seen in'
and big enough to carry all her friends.
And, it passes the 'sniff test'
of my own, as wow, there are so many
overpowered, low freeboard, 'testosterone'
boats on the lake right now that fail
that test.
Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
be ready by next summer.
http://hallman.org/bolger/650/650-2.gif
My family and I have decided that
we need a Topaz Spyder for summer
use at the lake. It passes the tough
approval test of my teenager, being
cool looking enough to be 'seen in'
and big enough to carry all her friends.
And, it passes the 'sniff test'
of my own, as wow, there are so many
overpowered, low freeboard, 'testosterone'
boats on the lake right now that fail
that test.
Sent PB&F the check today, and hopefully can
be ready by next summer.
http://hallman.org/bolger/650/650-2.gif
I found this in the design database on this group while browsing the
"Printable List" Does anyone perhaps have a scan of the drawings and
article referenced from MAIB. Modification of "Topaz", open utility
OB cruiser. Ref: MAIB, V19 #4.
I've been thinking of squaring off the stern and enclosing the OB
instead of the swim platform thingy. Just wondering if this variation
on the Topaz Hull could give me some ideas.
Rav
"Printable List" Does anyone perhaps have a scan of the drawings and
article referenced from MAIB. Modification of "Topaz", open utility
OB cruiser. Ref: MAIB, V19 #4.
I've been thinking of squaring off the stern and enclosing the OB
instead of the swim platform thingy. Just wondering if this variation
on the Topaz Hull could give me some ideas.
Rav