Re: Have Plans for AS-29
Good advice regarding the bilgeboard trunks and the fillets. I built
my mast of Doug Fir as per plan, and with the counterweight it raises
and lowers very easily. I'm not sure aluminum would have the necessary
strength as this is an unstayed mast. It is designed to be springy.
I also built the gaff to plan of Sitka spruce and it seems to fly just
fine. The three part purchase on the halyards makes setting and
dousing the sail easy. I used traditional blocks salvaged from an
older boat. I am able to haul both halyards at the same time and not
work up a sweat.
my mast of Doug Fir as per plan, and with the counterweight it raises
and lowers very easily. I'm not sure aluminum would have the necessary
strength as this is an unstayed mast. It is designed to be springy.
I also built the gaff to plan of Sitka spruce and it seems to fly just
fine. The three part purchase on the halyards makes setting and
dousing the sail easy. I used traditional blocks salvaged from an
older boat. I am able to haul both halyards at the same time and not
work up a sweat.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...> wrote:
> Splendid advice Frank. I will keep these points in mind. I am
> corresponding with Leo Foltz as well and he seems to be doing a fine
> job of avoiding the pitfalls of the earlier boats. Wonder what you
> think of the steel bottom plates in the updated design? I'm thinking
> some doubling of the side plywood up to above the topsides joint
> would be a good thing. Larry
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Frank San Miguel" <sanmi@y...> wrote:
> > Larry,
> >
> > I owned AS-29 Alisa for a while.
> >http://www.fsanmiguel.com/boat/alisa/alisa.html
> >
> > I didn't build her, but I did a lot of repairs:
> > - Round the outside chines to 1" or 1.5" diameter and add extra
> > sheathing.
> > - Use rot resistant wood on the chines (like mahogany).
> > - Be very careful when constructing the bilgeboard cases.
> > - Make large 2" fillets on the top and sides of the chine logs
> (inside).
> > - Make 2" fillets in the bow well.
> > - Fill the weave in your sheathing so you can do repairs later.
> > - Build to specifications.
> > - Consider using alumninum pipe for the mast.
> > - Make the gaff as light as possible.
> > - Use high quality blocks for the peak and throat halyards - that
> is a
> > big sail and you want to make raising it as easy as possible.
> > - Run the topping lift and halyards back to the cockpit.
> > - Raising the boom per the upgrade plans is a very good idea. I
> like
> > the other upgrades as well.
> >
> > Frank
> > Landenberg, PA
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...> wrote:
> > > I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
> > > started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at
> important
> > > junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as
> I
> > > will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already
> been a
> > > great help.
> > >http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
> > > Larry Whited
> > > Atlanta, GA
Wow! Another AS-29! Huzzah!
Mine is set to be launched, hopefully this week if I can get the crane
out to the barn. I'm waiting for the call right now from the crane
operator to see if we can do it this Thursday. The truck is all lined
up, and the boatyard is all set. Now we just need to see if she floats.
One tip for transporting the boat once you've finished her: if you're
not planning on your own trailer, try to build her about 45" off the
ground. This is the height of a "Landoll" trailer. If your cradle sits
at that height, the trucker can just winch the boat onto the back of
the truck and you won't need a crane.
I posted some pics of the construction on this group a while back, and
a few new pics today on the Bolger 4 site. Check it out.
If you need any pointers, feel free to write me. I made a few mistakes
along the way, and can help you avoid them. (Don't worry, you'll make
a few of your own. Bolger plans are more forgiving than most.)
I made a few, very modest, changes to my AS-29. I mounted the boom on
a traditional jaws-and-collar setup rather than the gooseneck
specified in the plans. I wanted the boom a little higher so I could
add a Bimini when the budget allows. I also made the doghouse a bit
longer than specified, stretching it forward about a foot to provide
more headroom when moving from the galley into the salon. I built the
galley a bit differently to accomodate the surface mount stove I
bought, and my galley has no drawers, only cabinet & shelves. It makes
for a huge storage area under the sink/stove counter.
I put a pair of flexible water tanks under the salon settees and ran
hose to the galley sink and the head vanity sink.
Otherwise, she's pretty much to plan. I didn't want to mess with the
hydrostatics by changing anything on the hull. Bolger knows more about
boat design than most others have forgotten. Ballast is internal as
per original plans. I melted the lead into small bricks (I used a
"Bakers Secret" small loaf pan as a mold.) The bricks are slightly
tapered so they dovetail together nicely in the ballast box. I covered
them with quick-set cement so they won't move, then bolted down the
box cover. The joints in the frame around the box I made mortise and
tennon so they'll never move.
I have a girlfriend who insists on certain amenities, like lights,
hairdriers, etc. so I had to put in batteries. I mounted the batteries
under the icebox taking care to provide vents for the batteries to
outgas. I weighed the batteries and subtracted the weight from the
ballast on that side to keep the boat balanced. I also kept a few
extra of the lead bricks out just in case I need to adjust the trim.
The mainmast was a trip to carve. Took months, all by hand. Don't try
to do any of the shaping with power tools, you'll just mess it up.
Done right, it balances almost perfectly with the lead at the bottom
as specified. I can raise and lower mine by myself. It's a bit tricky
to hold the mast in place and drop the locking staff in alone, but it
can be done. It's a bit less scary if your first mate stands in the
bow well and drops the staff in for you. Raising the mizzen is easily
a one man job. Be sure to make the main tabernacle good and strong.
The mast weighs about 400 lbs. and it's all on those two posts. The
posts also have to take the strain of the rig under full sail, so use
good strong bolts to attach them to the bulkhead. I used 5/8"
stainless carriage bolts with lots of 5200 sealant.
If there's any other tips you need, feel free to write.
Good luck!
Mine is set to be launched, hopefully this week if I can get the crane
out to the barn. I'm waiting for the call right now from the crane
operator to see if we can do it this Thursday. The truck is all lined
up, and the boatyard is all set. Now we just need to see if she floats.
One tip for transporting the boat once you've finished her: if you're
not planning on your own trailer, try to build her about 45" off the
ground. This is the height of a "Landoll" trailer. If your cradle sits
at that height, the trucker can just winch the boat onto the back of
the truck and you won't need a crane.
I posted some pics of the construction on this group a while back, and
a few new pics today on the Bolger 4 site. Check it out.
If you need any pointers, feel free to write me. I made a few mistakes
along the way, and can help you avoid them. (Don't worry, you'll make
a few of your own. Bolger plans are more forgiving than most.)
I made a few, very modest, changes to my AS-29. I mounted the boom on
a traditional jaws-and-collar setup rather than the gooseneck
specified in the plans. I wanted the boom a little higher so I could
add a Bimini when the budget allows. I also made the doghouse a bit
longer than specified, stretching it forward about a foot to provide
more headroom when moving from the galley into the salon. I built the
galley a bit differently to accomodate the surface mount stove I
bought, and my galley has no drawers, only cabinet & shelves. It makes
for a huge storage area under the sink/stove counter.
I put a pair of flexible water tanks under the salon settees and ran
hose to the galley sink and the head vanity sink.
Otherwise, she's pretty much to plan. I didn't want to mess with the
hydrostatics by changing anything on the hull. Bolger knows more about
boat design than most others have forgotten. Ballast is internal as
per original plans. I melted the lead into small bricks (I used a
"Bakers Secret" small loaf pan as a mold.) The bricks are slightly
tapered so they dovetail together nicely in the ballast box. I covered
them with quick-set cement so they won't move, then bolted down the
box cover. The joints in the frame around the box I made mortise and
tennon so they'll never move.
I have a girlfriend who insists on certain amenities, like lights,
hairdriers, etc. so I had to put in batteries. I mounted the batteries
under the icebox taking care to provide vents for the batteries to
outgas. I weighed the batteries and subtracted the weight from the
ballast on that side to keep the boat balanced. I also kept a few
extra of the lead bricks out just in case I need to adjust the trim.
The mainmast was a trip to carve. Took months, all by hand. Don't try
to do any of the shaping with power tools, you'll just mess it up.
Done right, it balances almost perfectly with the lead at the bottom
as specified. I can raise and lower mine by myself. It's a bit tricky
to hold the mast in place and drop the locking staff in alone, but it
can be done. It's a bit less scary if your first mate stands in the
bow well and drops the staff in for you. Raising the mizzen is easily
a one man job. Be sure to make the main tabernacle good and strong.
The mast weighs about 400 lbs. and it's all on those two posts. The
posts also have to take the strain of the rig under full sail, so use
good strong bolts to attach them to the bulkhead. I used 5/8"
stainless carriage bolts with lots of 5200 sealant.
If there's any other tips you need, feel free to write.
Good luck!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...> wrote:
> I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
> started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
> junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
> will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
> great help.
>http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
> Larry Whited
> Atlanta, GA
Splendid advice Frank. I will keep these points in mind. I am
corresponding with Leo Foltz as well and he seems to be doing a fine
job of avoiding the pitfalls of the earlier boats. Wonder what you
think of the steel bottom plates in the updated design? I'm thinking
some doubling of the side plywood up to above the topsides joint
would be a good thing. Larry
corresponding with Leo Foltz as well and he seems to be doing a fine
job of avoiding the pitfalls of the earlier boats. Wonder what you
think of the steel bottom plates in the updated design? I'm thinking
some doubling of the side plywood up to above the topsides joint
would be a good thing. Larry
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Frank San Miguel" <sanmi@y...> wrote:
> Larry,
>
> I owned AS-29 Alisa for a while.
>http://www.fsanmiguel.com/boat/alisa/alisa.html
>
> I didn't build her, but I did a lot of repairs:
> - Round the outside chines to 1" or 1.5" diameter and add extra
> sheathing.
> - Use rot resistant wood on the chines (like mahogany).
> - Be very careful when constructing the bilgeboard cases.
> - Make large 2" fillets on the top and sides of the chine logs
(inside).
> - Make 2" fillets in the bow well.
> - Fill the weave in your sheathing so you can do repairs later.
> - Build to specifications.
> - Consider using alumninum pipe for the mast.
> - Make the gaff as light as possible.
> - Use high quality blocks for the peak and throat halyards - that
is a
> big sail and you want to make raising it as easy as possible.
> - Run the topping lift and halyards back to the cockpit.
> - Raising the boom per the upgrade plans is a very good idea. I
like
> the other upgrades as well.
>
> Frank
> Landenberg, PA
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...> wrote:
> > I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
> > started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at
important
> > junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as
I
> > will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already
been a
> > great help.
> >http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
> > Larry Whited
> > Atlanta, GA
Raul,
A letter always gets a response from PB&F. I have corresponded with
him on several occasions and he is prompt in replying. My check
brought an even faster response by priority mail with the plans. H
doesn't seem to be a fan of the modern communication mediums.
Larry
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Multicascos.com" <multicascos@m...>
wrote:
A letter always gets a response from PB&F. I have corresponded with
him on several occasions and he is prompt in replying. My check
brought an even faster response by priority mail with the plans. H
doesn't seem to be a fan of the modern communication mediums.
Larry
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Multicascos.com" <multicascos@m...>
wrote:
> Hi Larrynobody replied
>
> How did you bought plans ?
> Because I have send several faxes to Fax: (978) 282-1349 and
> I have told my e-mail and nobody ever replies
> Regards
>
>
> Raúl
> www.multicascos.com
>
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:05:20 -0000
> From: "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...>
> Subject: Have Plans for AS-29
>
> I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
> started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
> junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
> will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
> great help.
>http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
> Larry Whited
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thanks John,
This is a big project for me and I have a lot on my plate this year.
Probably won't be ready until next year but look forward to your wise
assistance.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@m...>
wrote:
This is a big project for me and I have a lot on my plate this year.
Probably won't be ready until next year but look forward to your wise
assistance.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Bell" <smallboatdesigner@m...>
wrote:
> Cool beans! Please keep me in mind for those times you need a roll-over crew
> or help with some bit of heavy lifting.important
>
> John Bell
> Kennesaw, GA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:05 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Have Plans for AS-29
>
>
> | I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
> | started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at
> | junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact asI
> | will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is alreadybeen a
> | great help.posts
> |http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
> | Larry Whited
> | Atlanta, GA
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | Bolger rules!!!
> | - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> | - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
> | - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away01930, Fax:
> | - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> (978) 282-1349
> | - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> | - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> | Yahoo! Groups Links
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
Also -
AS-29 is an awesome sailer. She is fast and stable. That is a *big*
sail, so don't skimp on construction and reef points. I found an
excellent used sail that were practically the same dimensions as
specified by PCB&F.
AS-29 is an awesome sailer. She is fast and stable. That is a *big*
sail, so don't skimp on construction and reef points. I found an
excellent used sail that were practically the same dimensions as
specified by PCB&F.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Frank San Miguel" <sanmi@y...> wrote:
> Larry,
>
> I owned AS-29 Alisa for a while.
>http://www.fsanmiguel.com/boat/alisa/alisa.html
>
> I didn't build her, but I did a lot of repairs:
> - Round the outside chines to 1" or 1.5" diameter and add extra
> sheathing.
> - Use rot resistant wood on the chines (like mahogany).
> - Be very careful when constructing the bilgeboard cases.
> - Make large 2" fillets on the top and sides of the chine logs
(inside).
> - Make 2" fillets in the bow well.
> - Fill the weave in your sheathing so you can do repairs later.
> - Build to specifications.
> - Consider using alumninum pipe for the mast.
> - Make the gaff as light as possible.
> - Use high quality blocks for the peak and throat halyards - that is a
> big sail and you want to make raising it as easy as possible.
> - Run the topping lift and halyards back to the cockpit.
> - Raising the boom per the upgrade plans is a very good idea. I like
> the other upgrades as well.
>
> Frank
> Landenberg, PA
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...> wrote:
> > I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
> > started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
> > junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
> > will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
> > great help.
> >http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
> > Larry Whited
> > Atlanta, GA
Larry,
I owned AS-29 Alisa for a while.
http://www.fsanmiguel.com/boat/alisa/alisa.html
I didn't build her, but I did a lot of repairs:
- Round the outside chines to 1" or 1.5" diameter and add extra
sheathing.
- Use rot resistant wood on the chines (like mahogany).
- Be very careful when constructing the bilgeboard cases.
- Make large 2" fillets on the top and sides of the chine logs (inside).
- Make 2" fillets in the bow well.
- Fill the weave in your sheathing so you can do repairs later.
- Build to specifications.
- Consider using alumninum pipe for the mast.
- Make the gaff as light as possible.
- Use high quality blocks for the peak and throat halyards - that is a
big sail and you want to make raising it as easy as possible.
- Run the topping lift and halyards back to the cockpit.
- Raising the boom per the upgrade plans is a very good idea. I like
the other upgrades as well.
Frank
Landenberg, PA
I owned AS-29 Alisa for a while.
http://www.fsanmiguel.com/boat/alisa/alisa.html
I didn't build her, but I did a lot of repairs:
- Round the outside chines to 1" or 1.5" diameter and add extra
sheathing.
- Use rot resistant wood on the chines (like mahogany).
- Be very careful when constructing the bilgeboard cases.
- Make large 2" fillets on the top and sides of the chine logs (inside).
- Make 2" fillets in the bow well.
- Fill the weave in your sheathing so you can do repairs later.
- Build to specifications.
- Consider using alumninum pipe for the mast.
- Make the gaff as light as possible.
- Use high quality blocks for the peak and throat halyards - that is a
big sail and you want to make raising it as easy as possible.
- Run the topping lift and halyards back to the cockpit.
- Raising the boom per the upgrade plans is a very good idea. I like
the other upgrades as well.
Frank
Landenberg, PA
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Whited" <lwhited@y...> wrote:
> I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
> started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
> junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
> will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
> great help.
>http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
> Larry Whited
> Atlanta, GA
> Because I have send several faxes to Fax: (978) 282-1349 and nobody repliedAnother potential reason for no 'fax' reply is that sometimes
> Raúl
the return 'fax' phone number is illegible or missing.
I usually correspond with PB&F using old fashion postal mail and I
always have gotten a prompt response.
Phil Bolger & Friends, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Multicascos.com" <multicascos@m...>
wrote: "I have send several faxes to Fax: (978) 282-1349 and nobody
replied I have told my e-mail and nobody ever replies."
PB%F will NOT respond to an eMail address.
Give them you fax number and they will usually get back the same day.
Of course, summer is the exception, as they like to get out cruising as
much as we do.
Bruce Hector
wrote: "I have send several faxes to Fax: (978) 282-1349 and nobody
replied I have told my e-mail and nobody ever replies."
PB%F will NOT respond to an eMail address.
Give them you fax number and they will usually get back the same day.
Of course, summer is the exception, as they like to get out cruising as
much as we do.
Bruce Hector
Hi Larry
How did you bought plans ?
Because I have send several faxes to Fax: (978) 282-1349 and nobody replied
I have told my e-mail and nobody ever replies
Regards
Raúl
www.multicascos.com
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:05:20 -0000
From: "Larry Whited" <lwhited@...>
Subject: Have Plans for AS-29
I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
great help.
http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
Larry Whited
Atlanta, GA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
How did you bought plans ?
Because I have send several faxes to Fax: (978) 282-1349 and nobody replied
I have told my e-mail and nobody ever replies
Regards
Raúl
www.multicascos.com
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:05:20 -0000
From: "Larry Whited" <lwhited@...>
Subject: Have Plans for AS-29
I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
great help.
http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
Larry Whited
Atlanta, GA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Cool beans! Please keep me in mind for those times you need a roll-over crew
or help with some bit of heavy lifting.
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
or help with some bit of heavy lifting.
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Whited" <lwhited@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:05 PM
Subject: [bolger] Have Plans for AS-29
| I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
| started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
| junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
| will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
| great help.
|http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
| Larry Whited
| Atlanta, GA
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Bolger rules!!!
| - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
| - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
| - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
| - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax:
(978) 282-1349
| - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
| - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
| Yahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|
|
|
|
I just received the new plans for Bolger AS-29. I am eager to get
started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
great help.
http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
Larry Whited
Atlanta, GA
started on this interesting coastal cruiser. I'll post at important
junctures in building. Any current builders I hope to contact as I
will welcome hints and ideas from them. Leo Foltz is already been a
great help.
http://www.leow.de/body_index.html
Larry Whited
Atlanta, GA