Re: [bolger] Re: super brick

You could always go to pdracer.com and get a variation on the BOLGER BRICK and SUPER BRICK.The fellahs there are very nice and will help you with any tech problems you run into.I have been a member there for some time and have built several bricks.I am currently building larger boats but always keep a puddle duck around to get on the water with in a hurry or to race some folks once in a while.
Thanks
Jason Nabors

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, Paul <p_hardy@...> wrote:

From: Paul <p_hardy@...>
Subject: [bolger] Re: super brick
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 7:29 PM

I got the plans for mine from PB&F but others have reported problems
getting plans from them lately.

Paul H
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "mednak2000" <dccrc@...> wrote:
>
> Are there any plans out there for the superbrick or similar boat?
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I got the plans for mine from PB&F but others have reported problems
getting plans from them lately.

Paul H

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "mednak2000" <dccrc@...> wrote:
>
> Are there any plans out there for the superbrick or similar boat?
>

Are there any plans out there for the superbrick or similar boat?

>.. it will be interesting to see what
> Susan does with the legacy designs and the commissioned work.

I hope and predict that PCB will live to see 100.
FWIW, SA is a talented boat designer too, and I imagine that she could
do lots of interesting things building upon the PB&F catalogue, indeed
she already has done so.

I assume that Bolger's productivity is waning.

As a sales and marketing geek, I just shake my head at the missed
revenue opportunities for PB&F. They are certainly eccentric people.
It is easy to assume that at 80+ years that Bolger will pass on
first. If that comes to pass, it will be interesting to see what
Susan does with the legacy designs and the commissioned work.

IMO it would be nice to see the body of work in the hands of a firm
already in the industry and effective at marketing.

I kinda think throwing money at an incomplete Bolger design is a bad
idea.

> What I do think is worth criticizing is Bolger taking commision $$s
> and then not delivering the work in a timely fashion.

Given the astonishingly cheap price for which Phil and Suzanne are
designing what Phil describes as his greatest technical challenge for
me, I'm inclined to give him a break. And I'd really rather have it
done right than done to a deadline.

-- Sue --
(Also, I still haven't finished constructing the space where I'm going
to build her yet....)

--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>

IMO Bolger can go to market as he wishes. Someone will end up in
possesion of his work when he passes, and will make a nice living by
properly marketing hundreds of the designs. I wish Bolger and the
future much success, as they define it.

What I do think is worth criticizing is Bolger taking commision $$s
and then not delivering the work in a timely fashion. Because of his
age, I consider his tardiness not delivering a hand full of designs
members of this board have commisioned a big red flag concerning the
man's health.

I could be wrong (about his health) but all the other explanations
would put his character in question, and I don't question his
character.

Someone build it!!!

-----Original Message-----
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bruce Hallman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:31 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: super brick

> Not at all.

I just got back from a holiday with many hours spent sailing
a Tortoise, [identical shape hull and rig type as a Superbrick,
just smaller]. The Tortoise sailed better to windward than my
Teal and though shorter it was at times faster than my Teal.
For all except the looks, Tortoise was an excellent sailboat.
Superbrick should be a surprising sailboat, good too.

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> Not at all.

Mark, please allow me to suggest that you use one of
the URL shortening web sites. I like Tinyurl.com
because it works and it's easy to type.

Phil Smith

--- mark <planzman@...> wrote:

>

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/vwp?.dir=/Superbrick&.sr

> c=gr&.dnm=superbrick4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%
>

3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/lst%3f%26.dir=/Superbrick%

> 26.src=gr%26.view=t
>
>
>
>

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/vwp?.dir=/Superbrick&.sr

> c=gr&.dnm=superbrick4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%
>

3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/lst%3f%26.dir=/Superbrick%

> 26.src=gr%26.view=t
>
>
>
>
> interesting, anybody know who did these drawings and
> how?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "mark"
> <planzman@y...> wrote:
> > concur
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "s_paskey"
> <s_paskey@y...> wrote:
> > > Not at all. Although PCB has made disparaging
> comments about
> the
> > design, some of his
> > > remarks are tongue-in-cheek. The plans consist
> of six fully-
> > detailed sheets and a
> > > building key, and he wouldn't have gone to that
> trouble for the
> > sake of a joke.
> > >
> > > As PCB points out, it would be noisy and slow in
> choppy water,
> and
> > the time and materials
> > > required could be used to build a better boat.
> He also suggests
> > that it would work
> > > reasonably well, and notes that it would be
> self-righting,
> > unsinkable, strong, and stiff.
> > >
> > > If you wanted a weekend cabin on protected
> waters, never
> > travelling far or fast, you
> > > couldn't ask for more room in 20 feet of length.
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, ANDREW AIREY
> <andyairey@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > Didn't Phil intend it as a sort of bad joke
> and windup on more
> > conventional boats,but
> > > not neccessarily something to be built
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Andy
>
>
>
>
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I think these are the Superbrick created for Virtual-Sailor. See:
http://www.virtual-sailor.net/links/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=31&page=3&orderlinks=&perpage=15

Paul

> interesting, anybody know who did these drawings and how?

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/vwp?.dir=/Superbrick&.sr
c=gr&.dnm=superbrick4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%
3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/lst%3f%26.dir=/Superbrick%
26.src=gr%26.view=t

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/vwp?.dir=/Superbrick&.sr
c=gr&.dnm=superbrick4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%
3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger3/lst%3f%26.dir=/Superbrick%
26.src=gr%26.view=t

interesting, anybody know who did these drawings and how?

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "mark" <planzman@y...> wrote:
> concur
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "s_paskey" <s_paskey@y...> wrote:
> > Not at all. Although PCB has made disparaging comments about
the
> design, some of his
> > remarks are tongue-in-cheek. The plans consist of six fully-
> detailed sheets and a
> > building key, and he wouldn't have gone to that trouble for the
> sake of a joke.
> >
> > As PCB points out, it would be noisy and slow in choppy water,
and
> the time and materials
> > required could be used to build a better boat. He also suggests
> that it would work
> > reasonably well, and notes that it would be self-righting,
> unsinkable, strong, and stiff.
> >
> > If you wanted a weekend cabin on protected waters, never
> travelling far or fast, you
> > couldn't ask for more room in 20 feet of length.
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, ANDREW AIREY <andyairey@y...>
wrote:
> > > Didn't Phil intend it as a sort of bad joke and windup on more
> conventional boats,but
> > not neccessarily something to be built
> > > Cheers
> > > Andy

concur

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "s_paskey" <s_paskey@y...> wrote:
> Not at all. Although PCB has made disparaging comments about the
design, some of his
> remarks are tongue-in-cheek. The plans consist of six fully-
detailed sheets and a
> building key, and he wouldn't have gone to that trouble for the
sake of a joke.
>
> As PCB points out, it would be noisy and slow in choppy water, and
the time and materials
> required could be used to build a better boat. He also suggests
that it would work
> reasonably well, and notes that it would be self-righting,
unsinkable, strong, and stiff.
>
> If you wanted a weekend cabin on protected waters, never
travelling far or fast, you
> couldn't ask for more room in 20 feet of length.
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, ANDREW AIREY <andyairey@y...> wrote:
> > Didn't Phil intend it as a sort of bad joke and windup on more
conventional boats,but
> not neccessarily something to be built
> > Cheers
> > Andy

Not at all. Although PCB has made disparaging comments about the design, some of his
remarks are tongue-in-cheek. The plans consist of six fully-detailed sheets and a
building key, and he wouldn't have gone to that trouble for the sake of a joke.

As PCB points out, it would be noisy and slow in choppy water, and the time and materials
required could be used to build a better boat. He also suggests that it would work
reasonably well, and notes that it would be self-righting, unsinkable, strong, and stiff.

If you wanted a weekend cabin on protected waters, never travelling far or fast, you
couldn't ask for more room in 20 feet of length.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, ANDREW AIREY <andyairey@y...> wrote:
> Didn't Phil intend it as a sort of bad joke and windup on more conventional boats,but
not neccessarily something to be built
> Cheers
> Andy

Didn't Phil intend it as a sort of bad joke and windup
on more conventional boats,but not neccessarily
something to be built
Cheers
Andy

--- mark <planzman@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
fascinating, can't see that the foredeak is that way,
I would not
build it that even if the plans called for it. should
be a smooth
curve from the cockpit/cabin op to the bow. Wonder
how it sails
with the mast off center. Really wish some one would
build one and
post photos. The book does not even talk about
materials, wonder
what the material list looks like, would be great way
to estimate
cost.

thanks

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman
<bruce@h...> wrote:

> > I have PB's book and have looked at the SB, but am

having some
trouble

> > visualising the layout. IF no one has built this

monster, has
anyone

> > built a model. Seems to have what I am looking

for and for only

> > 20ft. wow.
>
> Here is a link to photos of a model I built
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/
>
> Someone else might also remember the link to a 3D

computer

> rendering of Superbrick, which is even more helpful.
>
> I think that the book reproduces nearly all of the

sheets of the

> plans, less one sheet that shows framing and other

minor details.

>
> Study the book closely and you can grasp the full

interior layout.

> Making a model can also be useful to help visualize

things.

>
> I am guessing that PB&F have the attitude that life

is too short

> to waste on diversions such as maintaining a website

catalogue
when

> time could rather be spent on designing more boats.

[We want I60!]

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--- Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:

Snip ---

If you want to see Bolger study plans, subscribe to
Messing About in Boats magazine.

UnSnip ---

And buy all his books and old issues of Small Boat
Journal and a couple of regional magazines in which
PB&F published their designs, and...

Phil Smith

who gave away or threw out all his Small Boat Journals
when he moved last year.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Philip Smith <pbs@w...> wrote:

>
>
> --- mark <planzman@y...> wrote:
>
> Snip...
>
> Just a sugestion,If anyone from PB&F monitors this
> link, you really need a web site to offer your plans
> on. People could see samples, study plans, photos and
> you might really sell more plans.

CC: Iain Oughtred

Oops, Iain doesn't do computers either. For designing or selling.

Wayne
In the Swamp.

> I'd love, love, love to see all 700 or so designs on
> line with sufficient detail to make us all salivate or
> turn up our noses,
> Phil Smith

It could easily turn into a full time job, [or more], just answering
all the questions an online catalogue could generate.

If you want to see Bolger study plans,
subscribe to Messing About in Boats magazine.

--- mark <planzman@...> wrote:

Snip...

Just a sugestion,If anyone from PB&F monitors this
link, you really need a web site to offer your plans
on. People could see samples, study plans, photos and
you might really sell more plans.

Snip

They don't monitor the site. They design boats.

I think your points are valid. If you wish to
communicate with PB&F, just fax 'em or mail 'em on
over.

I personally believe that PB&F would make much more
money than even hiring a professiona Web Lacky to
create and manage a web site. However PB&F don't 1)
think that they'd have enough control with out
devoting too much of their time and 2) are
perfectionists so that they want to see their web site
done properly and with sufficent care and quality that
they can't see how it could be done without devoting
too much of their time.

The real problem is that their time is the constraint.
As several people on this group can attest, they are
overworked when it comes to completing new designs. In
addition to designing boats they lead very interesting
lives and have a lot of fun with each other.

As much as I'd like to see them prosper and as much as
I'd love, love, love to see all 700 or so designs on
line with sufficient detail to make us all salivate or
turn up our noses, I can't say that I think they are
making the wrong descision on where to spend their
time.

YMMV (your milage may vary)

Phil Smith

is that AC ext plywood? How much is that where you live, here they
are bout $20 sheet. 2x4 are still under $3 for example. so wood
billcould be less than 1500 for a boat like this. Where could get
the sail. Since this boat is untried, wonder if a lower mainsail,
and an additional rear sail, sorta an offset cat yawl would do. I
think this is a great boat for waterfront property with out the
waterfront taxes. AS I said you could park her, and use other boats
such as a pelican to explore, fish whatever and return to the
mothership as needed. Even making grocery store runs in the pelican.

If you can't tell, I am a scow man! Just wish I knew how to sail.
soon, very soon.

for what its worth here is the pontoon boat that I am starting this
weekend.

http://www.svensons.com/boat/?p=Novelty/Pontune

cheers

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > what the material list looks like, would be great way to estimate
> > cost.
> > thanks
>
> Perhaps 45 sheets of 1/2" plywood?
> plus 300 board feet of framing lumber.
> Here is my estimate of the labor, I am optimistic of course,
> but 600 manhours could do it.
>
> =======
> hrs piece
> ==============
> 2 Bow transom
> 2 Bulkhead A
> 2 Bulkhead B
> 2 Bulkhead C
> 2 Bulkhead D
> 2 Stern transom
> 4 Bottom joists
> 2 Main floor
> 2 Dbl Berth platform
> 2 Dbl Berth riser
> 2 Dbl Berth hatches
> 2 Single berth starboard
> 2 Single berth port
> 2 Motor compartment bottom
> 2 Motor compartment sides
> 4 Washroom walls
> 2 Washroom door
> 4 Fiberglassing washroom
> 4 Off-Centerboard
> 2 Off-centerboard lead
> 4 Off-centerboard pivot hardware
> 4 Off-centerboard case
> 2 Bookshelf at dbl berth
> 2 Mainmast step box
> 1 Mainmast shelf reinforcements
> 8 Top opening icebox
> 8 Drop leaf table
> 8 Drawers under single berths
> 8 Sink cabinet & sink
> 8 Stove cabinet and drawers
> 8 Dresser drawer and desk
> 4 Lower side portside
> 4 Lower side starboardside
> 4 Bottom panels
> 2 Bottom to side chine logs
> 2 Lowerside to topside nail strip
> 4 Topside portside
> 4 Porthole window
> 4 Topside starboardside
> 8 Windows at dbl berth
> 8 Windows at single berths
> 2 Single berth closet rods
> 4 Motor mount transom board
> 4 Motor well flush hatches
> 2 Footwell sides at cockpit
> 2 Flush hatch at cockpit
> 8 Cockpit seatback bulwark
> 2 Cockpit seatback hatches
> 4 Cockpit seating 'deck'
> 4 Aft face of trunk
> 4 hatch boards in trunk
> 8 Sliding hatch at trunktop
> 8 Portside trunk cabinets
> 4 Outside sides of trunk
> 4 Forward face of trunk
> 2 Window on forward face of trunk
> 2 Hatch shroud
> 4 Trunk top
> 4 Disco deck
> 2 Disco deck sides
> 20 Shoebox punt
> 4 Running lights
> 8 Mast
> 16 Lanteen yards
> 8 Lanteen rig hardware
> 8 Polytarp sails
> 4 Top piece of rudder
> 4 Rudder hardware
> 4 Tiller
> 4 Bottom piece of rudder
> 2 Lead ballast in bottom of rudder
> 2 Anchor cleat
> 2 Mooring cleat
> =========================================
> 311 total hours

why not a turtle/tortise, can't remember which, it sails and rows
as well.

does the foredeak really look like your model?

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > what the material list looks like, would be great way to estimate
> > cost.
> > thanks
>
> Perhaps 45 sheets of 1/2" plywood?
> plus 300 board feet of framing lumber.
> Here is my estimate of the labor, I am optimistic of course,
> but 600 manhours could do it.
>
> =======
> hrs piece
> ==============
> 2 Bow transom
> 2 Bulkhead A
> 2 Bulkhead B
> 2 Bulkhead C
> 2 Bulkhead D
> 2 Stern transom
> 4 Bottom joists
> 2 Main floor
> 2 Dbl Berth platform
> 2 Dbl Berth riser
> 2 Dbl Berth hatches
> 2 Single berth starboard
> 2 Single berth port
> 2 Motor compartment bottom
> 2 Motor compartment sides
> 4 Washroom walls
> 2 Washroom door
> 4 Fiberglassing washroom
> 4 Off-Centerboard
> 2 Off-centerboard lead
> 4 Off-centerboard pivot hardware
> 4 Off-centerboard case
> 2 Bookshelf at dbl berth
> 2 Mainmast step box
> 1 Mainmast shelf reinforcements
> 8 Top opening icebox
> 8 Drop leaf table
> 8 Drawers under single berths
> 8 Sink cabinet & sink
> 8 Stove cabinet and drawers
> 8 Dresser drawer and desk
> 4 Lower side portside
> 4 Lower side starboardside
> 4 Bottom panels
> 2 Bottom to side chine logs
> 2 Lowerside to topside nail strip
> 4 Topside portside
> 4 Porthole window
> 4 Topside starboardside
> 8 Windows at dbl berth
> 8 Windows at single berths
> 2 Single berth closet rods
> 4 Motor mount transom board
> 4 Motor well flush hatches
> 2 Footwell sides at cockpit
> 2 Flush hatch at cockpit
> 8 Cockpit seatback bulwark
> 2 Cockpit seatback hatches
> 4 Cockpit seating 'deck'
> 4 Aft face of trunk
> 4 hatch boards in trunk
> 8 Sliding hatch at trunktop
> 8 Portside trunk cabinets
> 4 Outside sides of trunk
> 4 Forward face of trunk
> 2 Window on forward face of trunk
> 2 Hatch shroud
> 4 Trunk top
> 4 Disco deck
> 2 Disco deck sides
> 20 Shoebox punt
> 4 Running lights
> 8 Mast
> 16 Lanteen yards
> 8 Lanteen rig hardware
> 8 Polytarp sails
> 4 Top piece of rudder
> 4 Rudder hardware
> 4 Tiller
> 4 Bottom piece of rudder
> 2 Lead ballast in bottom of rudder
> 2 Anchor cleat
> 2 Mooring cleat
> =========================================
> 311 total hours

> what the material list looks like, would be great way to estimate
> cost.
> thanks

Perhaps 45 sheets of 1/2" plywood?
plus 300 board feet of framing lumber.
Here is my estimate of the labor, I am optimistic of course,
but 600 manhours could do it.

=======
hrs piece
==============
2 Bow transom
2 Bulkhead A
2 Bulkhead B
2 Bulkhead C
2 Bulkhead D
2 Stern transom
4 Bottom joists
2 Main floor
2 Dbl Berth platform
2 Dbl Berth riser
2 Dbl Berth hatches
2 Single berth starboard
2 Single berth port
2 Motor compartment bottom
2 Motor compartment sides
4 Washroom walls
2 Washroom door
4 Fiberglassing washroom
4 Off-Centerboard
2 Off-centerboard lead
4 Off-centerboard pivot hardware
4 Off-centerboard case
2 Bookshelf at dbl berth
2 Mainmast step box
1 Mainmast shelf reinforcements
8 Top opening icebox
8 Drop leaf table
8 Drawers under single berths
8 Sink cabinet & sink
8 Stove cabinet and drawers
8 Dresser drawer and desk
4 Lower side portside
4 Lower side starboardside
4 Bottom panels
2 Bottom to side chine logs
2 Lowerside to topside nail strip
4 Topside portside
4 Porthole window
4 Topside starboardside
8 Windows at dbl berth
8 Windows at single berths
2 Single berth closet rods
4 Motor mount transom board
4 Motor well flush hatches
2 Footwell sides at cockpit
2 Flush hatch at cockpit
8 Cockpit seatback bulwark
2 Cockpit seatback hatches
4 Cockpit seating 'deck'
4 Aft face of trunk
4 hatch boards in trunk
8 Sliding hatch at trunktop
8 Portside trunk cabinets
4 Outside sides of trunk
4 Forward face of trunk
2 Window on forward face of trunk
2 Hatch shroud
4 Trunk top
4 Disco deck
2 Disco deck sides
20 Shoebox punt
4 Running lights
8 Mast
16 Lanteen yards
8 Lanteen rig hardware
8 Polytarp sails
4 Top piece of rudder
4 Rudder hardware
4 Tiller
4 Bottom piece of rudder
2 Lead ballast in bottom of rudder
2 Anchor cleat
2 Mooring cleat
=========================================
311 total hours

fascinating, can't see that the foredeak is that way, I would not
build it that even if the plans called for it. should be a smooth
curve from the cockpit/cabin op to the bow. Wonder how it sails
with the mast off center. Really wish some one would build one and
post photos. The book does not even talk about materials, wonder
what the material list looks like, would be great way to estimate
cost.

thanks

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > I have PB's book and have looked at the SB, but am having some
trouble
> > visualising the layout. IF no one has built this monster, has
anyone
> > built a model. Seems to have what I am looking for and for only
> > 20ft. wow.
>
> Here is a link to photos of a model I built
>http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/
>
> Someone else might also remember the link to a 3D computer
> rendering of Superbrick, which is even more helpful.
>
> I think that the book reproduces nearly all of the sheets of the
> plans, less one sheet that shows framing and other minor details.
>
> Study the book closely and you can grasp the full interior layout.
> Making a model can also be useful to help visualize things.
>
> I am guessing that PB&F have the attitude that life is too short
> to waste on diversions such as maintaining a website catalogue
when
> time could rather be spent on designing more boats. [We want I60!]

> I have PB's book and have looked at the SB, but am having some trouble
> visualising the layout. IF no one has built this monster, has anyone
> built a model. Seems to have what I am looking for and for only
> 20ft. wow.

Here is a link to photos of a model I built
http://hallman.org/bolger/Superbrick/

Someone else might also remember the link to a 3D computer
rendering of Superbrick, which is even more helpful.

I think that the book reproduces nearly all of the sheets of the
plans, less one sheet that shows framing and other minor details.

Study the book closely and you can grasp the full interior layout.
Making a model can also be useful to help visualize things.

I am guessing that PB&F have the attitude that life is too short
to waste on diversions such as maintaining a website catalogue when
time could rather be spent on designing more boats. [We want I60!]

I have PB's book and have looked at the SB, but am having some trouble
visualising the layout. IF no one has built this monster, has anyone
built a model. Seems to have what I am looking for and for only
20ft. wow.

Just a sugestion,If anyone from PB&F monitors this link, you really
need a web site to offer your plans on. People could see samples,
study plans, photos and you might really sell more plans. I would
like a lot more info on the SB before I shell out $200 clams on
something that I might not build after I looked over the details.

I am not talking about the plans in the books, that is exactly what
they are, study plans, but you have so many designs that I actually
might incorporate some idea you had in plan x into plan y, such as
dinette, or berths, or dinghy stowage.

any cheers.