Re: [bolger] Re: Tinting epoxy
My assumption is that the uv will break down the first
skim of epoxy until it reaches the pigment. Then it
stops. This could result in a "painted" surface that
slowly powders, like epoxy paint when used outdoors.
Gene T.
--- Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
skim of epoxy until it reaches the pigment. Then it
stops. This could result in a "painted" surface that
slowly powders, like epoxy paint when used outdoors.
Gene T.
--- Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
> According to west system info that is one of the
> reasons for using the
> pigment, UV protection.
>
> HJ
>
> Jon & Wanda(Tink) wrote:
>
> >Don't you still need to cover tinted epoxy with a
> UV protecting
> >coating. Jell coats on a fiberglass boat are for
> giving it a hard
> >surface and UV protection to the layup. Pigment
> would keep the UV from
> >penatrating through but not on its owen fully
> protecting the epoxy from
> >UV.
> >
> >I may be wrong
> >
> >Jon
> >
For the money and the rich color a company called INLACE has tint
that they us to make designs in woodworking or pottery mixed with
epoxy. The color comes in a small container but it is a
concentrate. It comes in about half a pint size and it will color
seven gallons of regular Raka epoxy. I got some gold, purple, red
and white for use to make colorful inlays in wood signs. If you
made a deck covering with it it would be very bright and maybe hard
on the eyes because of the sheen. I love the stuff and it is a lot
less expensive than the west systems pigment. But of course if it
has boat anywhere in it's name it costs seven times more than if it
were for housing.
John
that they us to make designs in woodworking or pottery mixed with
epoxy. The color comes in a small container but it is a
concentrate. It comes in about half a pint size and it will color
seven gallons of regular Raka epoxy. I got some gold, purple, red
and white for use to make colorful inlays in wood signs. If you
made a deck covering with it it would be very bright and maybe hard
on the eyes because of the sheen. I love the stuff and it is a lot
less expensive than the west systems pigment. But of course if it
has boat anywhere in it's name it costs seven times more than if it
were for housing.
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, hal <hl700@c...> wrote:
> How does one go about tinting epoxy?
>
> I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
> as if it were painted.
>
> I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
>
> hal
According to west system info that is one of the reasons for using the
pigment, UV protection.
HJ
Jon & Wanda(Tink) wrote:
pigment, UV protection.
HJ
Jon & Wanda(Tink) wrote:
>Don't you still need to cover tinted epoxy with a UV protecting
>coating. Jell coats on a fiberglass boat are for giving it a hard
>surface and UV protection to the layup. Pigment would keep the UV from
>penatrating through but not on its owen fully protecting the epoxy from
>UV.
>
>I may be wrong
>
>Jon
>
>
>
>
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Don't you still need to cover tinted epoxy with a UV protecting
coating. Jell coats on a fiberglass boat are for giving it a hard
surface and UV protection to the layup. Pigment would keep the UV from
penatrating through but not on its owen fully protecting the epoxy from
UV.
I may be wrong
Jon
coating. Jell coats on a fiberglass boat are for giving it a hard
surface and UV protection to the layup. Pigment would keep the UV from
penatrating through but not on its owen fully protecting the epoxy from
UV.
I may be wrong
Jon
West system makes pigments, I have used the gray and white successfully.
HJ
hal wrote:
HJ
hal wrote:
>How does one go about tinting epoxy?
>
>I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
>as if it were painted.
>
>I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
>
>hal
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West system has a white powder tint they provide. I used it in a couple cases I wanted a cheap gel coat like patch on some plastic boats I was repairing.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Lefebvre
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: [bolger] Tinting epoxy
you can buy little tubes of epoxy tint in the Epoxy section at West Marine;
they used to sell various colors, nowadays it seems they only carry black or
white, but that still fits the bill for you (I like the brown for bonding
wood that'll be bright finished - gettin' hard to find tho). I've used the
same stuff for West System, Raka, and a couple other brands, and all seem
compatible. I used the white to repair the chipped gelcoat on a Phantom
sailboat I used to drag up and down a pebbly beach; it yellowed somewhat
after about 15 years but is still solid. The yellowing may be from the
thickener I used, not the tint.
Paul Lefebvre
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
hal
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:02 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Tinting epoxy
How does one go about tinting epoxy?
I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
as if it were painted.
I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
hal
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Titanium dioxide shouldn't be too hard to find as, apart from its use
in paints (as a substitute for white lead pigment), it is an ingredient
in preparations designed to be put on human skin, where one of its
properties is to act as a UV filter, preventing sunburn.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Gene T." <goldranger02-boats@y...>
wrote:
in paints (as a substitute for white lead pigment), it is an ingredient
in preparations designed to be put on human skin, where one of its
properties is to act as a UV filter, preventing sunburn.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Gene T." <goldranger02-boats@y...>
wrote:
> Talc would work, just buy baby powder and check that
> it is talc. I would make no bets on the UV
> resistance. Carbon black or Graphite seem to block
> the UV from penetrating. The talc might not do that.
> If you could find titanium dioxide that would be worth
> a try. I think that is the typical white in paint
> these days.
Talc would work, just buy baby powder and check that
it is talc. I would make no bets on the UV
resistance. Carbon black or Graphite seem to block
the UV from penetrating. The talc might not do that.
If you could find titanium dioxide that would be worth
a try. I think that is the typical white in paint
these days.
Gene T.
--- hal <hl700@...> wrote:
it is talc. I would make no bets on the UV
resistance. Carbon black or Graphite seem to block
the UV from penetrating. The talc might not do that.
If you could find titanium dioxide that would be worth
a try. I think that is the typical white in paint
these days.
Gene T.
--- hal <hl700@...> wrote:
> How does one go about tinting epoxy?
>
> I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
> as if it were painted.
>
> I need some abrasion resistance or I would use
> paint.
>
> hal
for the last 20 years ,I have been using regular enamel paint to tint epoxy. a little goes pretty far, and I have never had a problem with it curing.
Scott
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Lefebvre
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: [bolger] Tinting epoxy
you can buy little tubes of epoxy tint in the Epoxy section at West Marine;
they used to sell various colors, nowadays it seems they only carry black or
white, but that still fits the bill for you (I like the brown for bonding
wood that'll be bright finished - gettin' hard to find tho). I've used the
same stuff for West System, Raka, and a couple other brands, and all seem
compatible. I used the white to repair the chipped gelcoat on a Phantom
sailboat I used to drag up and down a pebbly beach; it yellowed somewhat
after about 15 years but is still solid. The yellowing may be from the
thickener I used, not the tint.
Paul Lefebvre
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hal
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:02 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Tinting epoxy
How does one go about tinting epoxy?
I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
as if it were painted.
I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
hal
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you can buy little tubes of epoxy tint in the Epoxy section at West Marine;
they used to sell various colors, nowadays it seems they only carry black or
white, but that still fits the bill for you (I like the brown for bonding
wood that'll be bright finished - gettin' hard to find tho). I've used the
same stuff for West System, Raka, and a couple other brands, and all seem
compatible. I used the white to repair the chipped gelcoat on a Phantom
sailboat I used to drag up and down a pebbly beach; it yellowed somewhat
after about 15 years but is still solid. The yellowing may be from the
thickener I used, not the tint.
Paul Lefebvre
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
hal
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:02 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Tinting epoxy
How does one go about tinting epoxy?
I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
as if it were painted.
I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
hal
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they used to sell various colors, nowadays it seems they only carry black or
white, but that still fits the bill for you (I like the brown for bonding
wood that'll be bright finished - gettin' hard to find tho). I've used the
same stuff for West System, Raka, and a couple other brands, and all seem
compatible. I used the white to repair the chipped gelcoat on a Phantom
sailboat I used to drag up and down a pebbly beach; it yellowed somewhat
after about 15 years but is still solid. The yellowing may be from the
thickener I used, not the tint.
Paul Lefebvre
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hal
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:02 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Tinting epoxy
How does one go about tinting epoxy?
I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
as if it were painted.
I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
hal
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Why not use a white two part epoxy paint?
How much abrasion resistance do you need? Robb White's
story about the way epoxy paint stood up on the aft
deck of a tug boat makes it seem that well applied
epoxy paint is pretty abrasion resistant.
Phil Smith
--- hal <hl700@...> wrote:
How much abrasion resistance do you need? Robb White's
story about the way epoxy paint stood up on the aft
deck of a tug boat makes it seem that well applied
epoxy paint is pretty abrasion resistant.
Phil Smith
--- hal <hl700@...> wrote:
> How does one go about tinting epoxy?
>
> I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
> as if it were painted.
>
> I need some abrasion resistance or I would use
> paint.
>
> hal
>
>
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How does one go about tinting epoxy?
I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
as if it were painted.
I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
hal
I need to seal a surface and it needs to be white
as if it were painted.
I need some abrasion resistance or I would use paint.
hal