Re: Enlarged Gypsy
Robert, would you mind posting your photos from here,
http://www.lightarteddesign.com/boats.html
to one of the Bolger group files sections? As is, the thumb photo of
your enlarged Gypsy on starboard tack when viewed expanded sadly has
most of the hull cropped. I believe photos uploaded to a files section
may show more construction detail as well.
I woke this morning with a nagging thought that I had seen this boat
before, or something similar. Then it came to me: take a look at
Tasmanian Murray Isles' "adventure cruising" dinghy designs.
Particularly "Kintail 11" here,
http://www.islesdesign.com/designs/menu.html
seems to me very like the lines of your boat. Does it approach your
conception of a more heaviiy constructed 'Enlarged Gypsy'
beachcruiser? Your boat obviously sailed well, how did it row?
IIRC a couple of years ago "Cruising Helmsman" magazine had a good
colour spread and story of the Fijian "Kintail 11" that cruised the
open ocean, inter-island. Very impressive. Quick and seaworthy, as
dinghies go.
I think the closest PCB&F have would be an open "Chebaccco" though I
think they have been asked for various 'Gypsy' derived designs over
the years, eg: decking, doubling.
My guess is PCB would also appreciate receiving your 'Enlarged Gypsy'
pictures and story. [I've lately been reading BWAOM (and found its
immpossible to do so systematically) and find, here and there, hints
or encouragements to diverge from the plans, eg: lines and offset
tables given so other than the designed assembly methods may be used;
the sense throughout that its an adventure in boat design that you are
asked to participate in; Payson is aknowledged by PCB as a close
longtime friend, sells Bolger plans as drawn, yet in his writing on
PCB's design often differs. Mind you I've read PCB&F naturally take no
consequential responsibility for diversions from plan, there were some
acerbic criticisms posted here early on.]
Happy boatbuilding
graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@y...>
wrote:
http://www.lightarteddesign.com/boats.html
to one of the Bolger group files sections? As is, the thumb photo of
your enlarged Gypsy on starboard tack when viewed expanded sadly has
most of the hull cropped. I believe photos uploaded to a files section
may show more construction detail as well.
I woke this morning with a nagging thought that I had seen this boat
before, or something similar. Then it came to me: take a look at
Tasmanian Murray Isles' "adventure cruising" dinghy designs.
Particularly "Kintail 11" here,
http://www.islesdesign.com/designs/menu.html
seems to me very like the lines of your boat. Does it approach your
conception of a more heaviiy constructed 'Enlarged Gypsy'
beachcruiser? Your boat obviously sailed well, how did it row?
IIRC a couple of years ago "Cruising Helmsman" magazine had a good
colour spread and story of the Fijian "Kintail 11" that cruised the
open ocean, inter-island. Very impressive. Quick and seaworthy, as
dinghies go.
I think the closest PCB&F have would be an open "Chebaccco" though I
think they have been asked for various 'Gypsy' derived designs over
the years, eg: decking, doubling.
My guess is PCB would also appreciate receiving your 'Enlarged Gypsy'
pictures and story. [I've lately been reading BWAOM (and found its
immpossible to do so systematically) and find, here and there, hints
or encouragements to diverge from the plans, eg: lines and offset
tables given so other than the designed assembly methods may be used;
the sense throughout that its an adventure in boat design that you are
asked to participate in; Payson is aknowledged by PCB as a close
longtime friend, sells Bolger plans as drawn, yet in his writing on
PCB's design often differs. Mind you I've read PCB&F naturally take no
consequential responsibility for diversions from plan, there were some
acerbic criticisms posted here early on.]
Happy boatbuilding
graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@y...>
wrote:
> Nice one Robert. She seems to get along well with the lug rig.
>
> I look forward to hearing of your intended beachcruiser version.
>
> Happy building
Nice one Robert. She seems to get along well with the lug rig.
I look forward to hearing of your intended beachcruiser version.
Happy building
graeme
I look forward to hearing of your intended beachcruiser version.
Happy building
graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "rwddgo" <robwdd@h...> wrote:
> Yo, I've been intending to write here about my enlarged Gypsy and
since
> someone mentioned the possibility of doing one I thought I'd jump
in. I
> built the boat in 1987, I think, rather than do a more difficult,
> larger 24' beach cruiser that PCB did a design for. I decided to
adapt
> the Gypsy lines this way: Length x 1.2, Beam x 1.25 and Heights x
1.1 .
> I believe I had some logic about this at the time. Anyway the boat
> worked out wonderfully. A fairly large lug rig sail was added a
couple
> of years later with a long daggerboard. I raked the mast forward
to
> make the sail more vertical upwind and for improved downwind
> performance (I'm a recovered competive sailor, mostly Finns). I
used
> 1/4 inch acx on the sides and 3/8 on the bottom. If I were to do
a
> similar boat today (and I do think about doing a 20' version) I'd
go to
> 1/2 or 5/8 on the bottom. But as built it was light, fast and easy
to
> carry. Also I'd use better plywood, okume or similar.
Unfortunately I
> don't own this boat anymore. I have a picture of it on my personal
> website: www.lightarteddesign.com . Also I can be reached at
> robert.dudomaine@g... , if someone wants more info. I don't often
> look at the mailbox refered to on my website. Happy sailing.
Robert
Yo, I've been intending to write here about my enlarged Gypsy and since
someone mentioned the possibility of doing one I thought I'd jump in. I
built the boat in 1987, I think, rather than do a more difficult,
larger 24' beach cruiser that PCB did a design for. I decided to adapt
the Gypsy lines this way: Length x 1.2, Beam x 1.25 and Heights x 1.1 .
I believe I had some logic about this at the time. Anyway the boat
worked out wonderfully. A fairly large lug rig sail was added a couple
of years later with a long daggerboard. I raked the mast forward to
make the sail more vertical upwind and for improved downwind
performance (I'm a recovered competive sailor, mostly Finns). I used
1/4 inch acx on the sides and 3/8 on the bottom. If I were to do a
similar boat today (and I do think about doing a 20' version) I'd go to
1/2 or 5/8 on the bottom. But as built it was light, fast and easy to
carry. Also I'd use better plywood, okume or similar. Unfortunately I
don't own this boat anymore. I have a picture of it on my personal
website: www.lightarteddesign.com . Also I can be reached at
robert.dudomaine@..., if someone wants more info. I don't often
look at the mailbox refered to on my website. Happy sailing. Robert
someone mentioned the possibility of doing one I thought I'd jump in. I
built the boat in 1987, I think, rather than do a more difficult,
larger 24' beach cruiser that PCB did a design for. I decided to adapt
the Gypsy lines this way: Length x 1.2, Beam x 1.25 and Heights x 1.1 .
I believe I had some logic about this at the time. Anyway the boat
worked out wonderfully. A fairly large lug rig sail was added a couple
of years later with a long daggerboard. I raked the mast forward to
make the sail more vertical upwind and for improved downwind
performance (I'm a recovered competive sailor, mostly Finns). I used
1/4 inch acx on the sides and 3/8 on the bottom. If I were to do a
similar boat today (and I do think about doing a 20' version) I'd go to
1/2 or 5/8 on the bottom. But as built it was light, fast and easy to
carry. Also I'd use better plywood, okume or similar. Unfortunately I
don't own this boat anymore. I have a picture of it on my personal
website: www.lightarteddesign.com . Also I can be reached at
robert.dudomaine@..., if someone wants more info. I don't often
look at the mailbox refered to on my website. Happy sailing. Robert