Bolger Boats for sale in Maine
Folks,
Here are two Bolger boats for sale in Maine,
Si
15' Bolger Micro, cat yawl, slps 2, trlr, 4hp Johnson OB, $2000
Waldoboro, ME 207-832-5789
24' light schooner, bolger design, fg, coated plywood, daysailer,
sails and trlr, $2500
Milford, ME 207-827-3609
Here are two Bolger boats for sale in Maine,
Si
15' Bolger Micro, cat yawl, slps 2, trlr, 4hp Johnson OB, $2000
Waldoboro, ME 207-832-5789
24' light schooner, bolger design, fg, coated plywood, daysailer,
sails and trlr, $2500
Milford, ME 207-827-3609
On Jul 10, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Bob Larkin wrote:
> I have updated my web pages on the Birdwatcher-2 construction project.
> They
> are at
>http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/bw2_main.htm
> The pages for frames, hull and centerboard all have additions.
>
> The hull is together and roughly a bottom paint job away from
> turning. This is getting exciting!
>
> Also, for general interest, there are a couple more boat items, and
> some
> ham radio stuff linked from the main page
>http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/index.htm
>
> Bob Larkin
> Corvallis, Oregon
>
>
>
>
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In a message dated 7/11/05 2:40:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
stephensonhw@...writes:
biographic entry. Still, I think that mention of "Birdwatcher" and "Micro" would
be in order and lead interested ("googling") readers to lots of poop on two of
his most groundbreaking designs.
Ciao for Niao,
Bill in MN
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stephensonhw@...writes:
> Perhaps you could add something like:It is certainly a challenge to summarize so protean a designer in a short
>
biographic entry. Still, I think that mention of "Birdwatcher" and "Micro" would
be in order and lead interested ("googling") readers to lots of poop on two of
his most groundbreaking designs.
Ciao for Niao,
Bill in MN
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Very nice, Bruce. I was going to say something about feet and inches,
but the Wikipedia style manual says it's OK to use either metric or
imperial in non-scientific articles.
Howard
but the Wikipedia style manual says it's OK to use either metric or
imperial in non-scientific articles.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Bolger
>
> As the wikipedia is a 'group edit' community, feel free to correct
or edit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Bolger
As the wikipedia is a 'group edit' community, feel free to correct or edit.
As the wikipedia is a 'group edit' community, feel free to correct or edit.
Perhaps you could add something like:
" ... from the solidly conventional to extremely innovative, from a
replica of an eighteenth-century naval frigate to tiny plywood box-
like dinghies." Then there should be links to "frigate"
and "dinghy", if those words are in the dictionary already.
It's Lord rather than Lords.
I don't know the Wikipedia convention for showing birth and death
dates, but many reference works use the format (1927 - ), just
after the name, for someone who is still with us.
Howard
" ... from the solidly conventional to extremely innovative, from a
replica of an eighteenth-century naval frigate to tiny plywood box-
like dinghies." Then there should be links to "frigate"
and "dinghy", if those words are in the dictionary already.
It's Lord rather than Lords.
I don't know the Wikipedia convention for showing birth and death
dates, but many reference works use the format (1927 - ), just
after the name, for someone who is still with us.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> I was noticing that Phil Bolger gets referenced in the Wikipedia
> 'Sharpie' entry, but no Wikipedia bigraphy for Phil Bolger yet
exists.
> Here is a draft of a potential biography to enter into the
Wikipedia,
> but I an a Wiki-newbie and would appreciate help with the content
and
> the wiki-tags.
>
> ==========================
>
> Philip C. Bolger, prolific boat designer, was born in Gloucester,
> Massachusetts in 1927. He began work full time as a draftsman for
> boat designers Lindsay Lords and then John Hacker in early 1950's.
> Bolger also cites being influenced by mentors L.F. Herreshoff,
> Nicholas Montgomery and his brother Bill Bolger.
>
> Bolger's first boat design was a 32' sportfisherman published in
the
> January 1952 issue of the magazine Yachting. Since then Phil
Bolger
> has designed more than 700 different boats, of all types ranging
from
> the solidly conventional to extremely innovative. Since the 1990's
> Phil Bolger has been designing boats teamed with his wife, Susanne
> Altenberger under the name Phil Bolger and Friends.
FWIW Iain Oughtred is on record (a decade or more ago) praising Phil for his superb sharpie designs - most notably the supremely elegant Black Skimmer, which is in Iain's list of top ten favourite designs ever. I passed the cutting on to Phil who pointed out that Black Skimmer had been superceded by a later design - presumably Jochems?
I'll say no more for fear of causing offence ;-) Suffice it to say his sharpies earn the praise and admiration of his peers.
Bill
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I'll say no more for fear of causing offence ;-) Suffice it to say his sharpies earn the praise and admiration of his peers.
Bill
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> Looking good! I think it's Lindsay 'Lord' (singular) and it's 'Altenburger'. I *think* they got married in 1994 - certainly they were 'dating' when I visited Phil in the summer of 1993.Good eye.
>
> Bill Samson
Perhaps the 'wiki-bio' needs one or two paragraphs describing Bolger's
most famous designs, or styles. Could/would someone suggest that
paragraph? Sharpies are his specialtiy, as are the 'instant boat'
series...
I could not find any existing entries specifically for Lindsay Lord,
LF Herreshoff or John Hacker (perhaps my google fu is bad today), so
no links there. If you can find an existing article you want to
link, the formatting is documented here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Links_and_URLs
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LF Herreshoff or John Hacker (perhaps my google fu is bad today), so
no links there. If you can find an existing article you want to
link, the formatting is documented here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Links_and_URLs
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Hi Bruce,
Looking good! I think it's Lindsay 'Lord' (singular) and it's 'Altenburger'. I *think* they got married in 1994 - certainly they were 'dating' when I visited Phil in the summer of 1993.
Bill Samson
Looking good! I think it's Lindsay 'Lord' (singular) and it's 'Altenburger'. I *think* they got married in 1994 - certainly they were 'dating' when I visited Phil in the summer of 1993.
Bill Samson
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hallman
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: [bolger] Bolger Wikipedia biography
I was noticing that Phil Bolger gets referenced in the Wikipedia
'Sharpie' entry, but no Wikipedia bigraphy for Phil Bolger yet exists.
Here is a draft of a potential biography to enter into the Wikipedia,
but I an a Wiki-newbie and would appreciate help with the content and
the wiki-tags.
==========================
Philip C. Bolger, prolific boat designer, was born in Gloucester,
Massachusetts in 1927. He began work full time as a draftsman for
boat designers Lindsay Lords and then John Hacker in early 1950's.
Bolger also cites being influenced by mentors L.F. Herreshoff,
Nicholas Montgomery and his brother Bill Bolger.
Bolger's first boat design was a 32' sportfisherman published in the
January 1952 issue of the magazine Yachting. Since then Phil Bolger
has designed more than 700 different boats, of all types ranging from
the solidly conventional to extremely innovative. Since the 1990's
Phil Bolger has been designing boats teamed with his wife, Susanne
Altenberger under the name Phil Bolger and Friends.
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
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I was noticing that Phil Bolger gets referenced in the Wikipedia
'Sharpie' entry, but no Wikipedia bigraphy for Phil Bolger yet exists.
Here is a draft of a potential biography to enter into the Wikipedia,
but I an a Wiki-newbie and would appreciate help with the content and
the wiki-tags.
==========================
Philip C. Bolger, prolific boat designer, was born in Gloucester,
Massachusetts in 1927. He began work full time as a draftsman for
boat designers Lindsay Lords and then John Hacker in early 1950's.
Bolger also cites being influenced by mentors L.F. Herreshoff,
Nicholas Montgomery and his brother Bill Bolger.
Bolger's first boat design was a 32' sportfisherman published in the
January 1952 issue of the magazine Yachting. Since then Phil Bolger
has designed more than 700 different boats, of all types ranging from
the solidly conventional to extremely innovative. Since the 1990's
Phil Bolger has been designing boats teamed with his wife, Susanne
Altenberger under the name Phil Bolger and Friends.
'Sharpie' entry, but no Wikipedia bigraphy for Phil Bolger yet exists.
Here is a draft of a potential biography to enter into the Wikipedia,
but I an a Wiki-newbie and would appreciate help with the content and
the wiki-tags.
==========================
Philip C. Bolger, prolific boat designer, was born in Gloucester,
Massachusetts in 1927. He began work full time as a draftsman for
boat designers Lindsay Lords and then John Hacker in early 1950's.
Bolger also cites being influenced by mentors L.F. Herreshoff,
Nicholas Montgomery and his brother Bill Bolger.
Bolger's first boat design was a 32' sportfisherman published in the
January 1952 issue of the magazine Yachting. Since then Phil Bolger
has designed more than 700 different boats, of all types ranging from
the solidly conventional to extremely innovative. Since the 1990's
Phil Bolger has been designing boats teamed with his wife, Susanne
Altenberger under the name Phil Bolger and Friends.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "saillips" <saillips@c...> wrote:
Unfortunately there is no captions on the photos but an email to Don
might be useful?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/links
The original BW plans call for 1/4" plywood on the sides and 1" on the
bottom. Does seem flimsy but once the sides are wrapped around the
bulkheads it stiffens things up. Glassing also adds stiffening.
I agree though that the foam sandwich construction puts BWII into a
whole new level of serviceability and strength, so the 1/4" outer
layer with 6 oz glass would be my choice now. 1/8" doorskin for the
interior?
Nels
> Hi Nels, where are these pics from Don, what group and what areaThe photos are in the "links" section of this group site:
> (files or photos?)?
> Also, it is amazing to me how much stifness the foam has added to the
> hull sides, even though my side panels are 3/8" insead of 1/4".
Unfortunately there is no captions on the photos but an email to Don
might be useful?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/links
The original BW plans call for 1/4" plywood on the sides and 1" on the
bottom. Does seem flimsy but once the sides are wrapped around the
bulkheads it stiffens things up. Glassing also adds stiffening.
I agree though that the foam sandwich construction puts BWII into a
whole new level of serviceability and strength, so the 1/4" outer
layer with 6 oz glass would be my choice now. 1/8" doorskin for the
interior?
Nels
> Seems his name is Don and he is from Florida and has posted over 50Hi Nels, where are these pics from Don, what group and what area
> photos! So that would be 4 builders now?
>
(files or photos?)?
Also, it is amazing to me how much stifness the foam has added to the
hull sides, even though my side panels are 3/8" insead of 1/4". I can
only imagine that when all the foam and interior panels are in, the
hull will be extrememly stiff and strong. That's really the only
specific direction given in the plans as pertains to building sequence
"glue the foam in AFTER the hull is together". IMHO, I don't think
building the BW2 without the foam and interior panels would yield
satisfactory results, especially if you are following the 1/4"
scantling for the side panels. Does anyone know if the BW1 has 1/2"
side panels specified? Seems to me (just a "gut" feeling) that BW1
would need 1/2" side panels to be of equal stiffness and strength as
the BW2 foam sandwich construction. I chose to use the 3M 4200 because
despite its tenacious hold, it retains a resilient quality in the bond
that I thought might perfom better in case of hull flexing or some
sort of impact, as opposed to a hard epoxy glue joint.
Take care, David L
Nels,
Yes, I was looking at Don'se photos and cool art work. Who is this
from, and it looks like great BW progress! And Larry Steele? posted a
link to my material list, which is fine. But, is this another BW,
also? There may be many more lurking BW's out there.
Bob
Yes, I was looking at Don'se photos and cool art work. Who is this
from, and it looks like great BW progress! And Larry Steele? posted a
link to my material list, which is fine. But, is this another BW,
also? There may be many more lurking BW's out there.
Bob
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
> I wonder who the other
> fellow is that has posted photos into the Birdwatcher links section
> here?
>
> Seems his name is Don and he is from Florida and has posted over 50
> photos! So that would be 4 builders now?
>
> (I did not realize that steele_larry and Bob Larkin where the same
> person:-)
>
>...
> Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Lipsey" <saillips@c...> wrote:
As i wrote to Bob and Jack I think we've been recruited as test
subjects in Phil's R&D lab. It's really fun to be part of the
problem solving , though as Jack pointed out, having a bit of a
masochistic streak and good humor helps alot!
> Cheers, David Lipsey
>
Hi David,
Thanks for the progress update as well. I wonder who the other
fellow is that has posted photos into the Birdwatcher links section
here?
Seems his name is Don and he is from Florida and has posted over 50
photos! So that would be 4 builders now?
(I did not realize that steele_larry and Bob Larkin where the same
person:-)
Sounds like you guys have figured out a great system for mounting
the foam.
Nels
Hi Paul, The sides have 6 oz sheathing over the 6 mm Okoume. Bob
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <kayaker37@h...> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Are the sides fiberglassed or just the bottom?
>
> Thanks for the updated pictures.
> Paul
>
> > I have updated my web pages on the Birdwatcher-2 construction
project.
> ...
> > Bob Larkin
> > Corvallis, Oregon
Did you make a final decision yet on the type of foam
and adhesive you plan to use? You were making some tests the last
time I heard before my computer self-destructed.
Hi Nels, I know you were replying to Bob, and his rendition of BW2 is much superior to mine. Just wanted to pass along that I've just started glueing foam sheets into my hull with 3M 4200 fast set adhesive. Doesn't melt or degrade the foam. I applied a bead around the edge of the space into which the foam was to be placed, follwed by beads in "S" patterns, then spread with a 1/8" steel notched trowel ( such as used to spread adhesive for flooring) which combined with 92 degree F temps allowed me to spread an even film of adhesive onto which the foam panels are set, held with luan pads and drywall screws into the longitudinal framing members until it sets (photos soon). My test piece showed excellent (to the destruction of the foam) adhesion.
It is interesting that myself, Bob Larkin and Jack Wyman all found that our side panels exhibited a concave area, which Bob shows on his web-site, once sprung around the frames. I have no intention of filling this on the exterior of the hull, but am considering the implications as I approach glueing in foam and interior ply panels onto what is a convex surface inside the hull. As Bob and Jack and I have compared notes, we've concluded that we are building the prototypes for BW2, and as such our input to PCB and Friends might likely result in some editing or revising of the plans. There are no "building instructions" per se, as one finds in Payson's "New Instant Boats" , so I believe that Phil is waiting to hear from us builders. As i wrote to Bob and Jack I think we've been recruited as test subjects in Phil's R&D lab. It's really fun to be part of the problem solving , though as Jack pointed out, having a bit of a masochistic streak and good humor helps alot!
Cheers, David Lipsey
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and adhesive you plan to use? You were making some tests the last
time I heard before my computer self-destructed.
Hi Nels, I know you were replying to Bob, and his rendition of BW2 is much superior to mine. Just wanted to pass along that I've just started glueing foam sheets into my hull with 3M 4200 fast set adhesive. Doesn't melt or degrade the foam. I applied a bead around the edge of the space into which the foam was to be placed, follwed by beads in "S" patterns, then spread with a 1/8" steel notched trowel ( such as used to spread adhesive for flooring) which combined with 92 degree F temps allowed me to spread an even film of adhesive onto which the foam panels are set, held with luan pads and drywall screws into the longitudinal framing members until it sets (photos soon). My test piece showed excellent (to the destruction of the foam) adhesion.
It is interesting that myself, Bob Larkin and Jack Wyman all found that our side panels exhibited a concave area, which Bob shows on his web-site, once sprung around the frames. I have no intention of filling this on the exterior of the hull, but am considering the implications as I approach glueing in foam and interior ply panels onto what is a convex surface inside the hull. As Bob and Jack and I have compared notes, we've concluded that we are building the prototypes for BW2, and as such our input to PCB and Friends might likely result in some editing or revising of the plans. There are no "building instructions" per se, as one finds in Payson's "New Instant Boats" , so I believe that Phil is waiting to hear from us builders. As i wrote to Bob and Jack I think we've been recruited as test subjects in Phil's R&D lab. It's really fun to be part of the problem solving , though as Jack pointed out, having a bit of a masochistic streak and good humor helps alot!
Cheers, David Lipsey
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Hi Nels,
Thanks for the comments! It is a fun boat to build, going together
quite pleasantly.
Relative to the foam layer, I am still leaning toward the water-based
contact cement, mainly because of the zero setup time. I have not
figured solutions for the hold-in-place problems otherwise. David
Lipsey has started installing some foam and so far is using 4200. It
might be practical to use 4200 for the outside where dry-wall-screw
holes could be patched and contact cement for the inner paneling to
avoid visible holes there. I want to leave the option of bright finish
on some of the inner 3 mm Okoume. I guess it is obvious there is no
decision yet!
I did a soak test for a couple of months with the Plus-10 water-based
contact cement from Weldwood. It was fine and still strong. The similar
test with "Big-Stretch" concrete adhesive from the lumber yard failed
after a month, turning into a semi-adhesive.
The plans for BW-2 are $175.
I'm enjoying the read on BW1 or BW2, but trying to stay focussed on
building while he weather half-way cooperates! Great to see the
interest and I am very anxious to get to the water, and maybe give some
rides to the curious!
All the best, Bob
Thanks for the comments! It is a fun boat to build, going together
quite pleasantly.
Relative to the foam layer, I am still leaning toward the water-based
contact cement, mainly because of the zero setup time. I have not
figured solutions for the hold-in-place problems otherwise. David
Lipsey has started installing some foam and so far is using 4200. It
might be practical to use 4200 for the outside where dry-wall-screw
holes could be patched and contact cement for the inner paneling to
avoid visible holes there. I want to leave the option of bright finish
on some of the inner 3 mm Okoume. I guess it is obvious there is no
decision yet!
I did a soak test for a couple of months with the Plus-10 water-based
contact cement from Weldwood. It was fine and still strong. The similar
test with "Big-Stretch" concrete adhesive from the lumber yard failed
after a month, turning into a semi-adhesive.
The plans for BW-2 are $175.
I'm enjoying the read on BW1 or BW2, but trying to stay focussed on
building while he weather half-way cooperates! Great to see the
interest and I am very anxious to get to the water, and maybe give some
rides to the curious!
All the best, Bob
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Very nice website and a beautiful building job with several useful
> building tips. Did you make a final decision yet on the type of foam
> and adhesive you plan to use? You were making some tests the last
> time I heard before my computer self-destructed.
>
> What do the plans cost for BW-2?
>
> Cheers, Nels
Bob,
Are the sides fiberglassed or just the bottom?
Thanks for the updated pictures.
Paul
Are the sides fiberglassed or just the bottom?
Thanks for the updated pictures.
Paul
> I have updated my web pages on the Birdwatcher-2 construction project....
> Bob Larkin
> Corvallis, Oregon
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bob Larkin <boblark@p...> wrote:
Very nice website and a beautiful building job with several useful
building tips. Did you make a final decision yet on the type of foam
and adhesive you plan to use? You were making some tests the last
time I heard before my computer self-destructed.
What do the plans cost for BW-2?
Cheers, Nels
> The hull is together and roughly a bottom paint job away fromand some
> turning. This is getting exciting!
>
> Also, for general interest, there are a couple more boat items,
> ham radio stuff linked from the main pageHi Bob,
>http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/index.htm
>
> Bob Larkin
> Corvallis, Oregon
Very nice website and a beautiful building job with several useful
building tips. Did you make a final decision yet on the type of foam
and adhesive you plan to use? You were making some tests the last
time I heard before my computer self-destructed.
What do the plans cost for BW-2?
Cheers, Nels
I have updated my web pages on the Birdwatcher-2 construction project. They
are at
http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/bw2_main.htm
The pages for frames, hull and centerboard all have additions.
The hull is together and roughly a bottom paint job away from
turning. This is getting exciting!
Also, for general interest, there are a couple more boat items, and some
ham radio stuff linked from the main page
http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/index.htm
Bob Larkin
Corvallis, Oregon
are at
http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/bw2_main.htm
The pages for frames, hull and centerboard all have additions.
The hull is together and roughly a bottom paint job away from
turning. This is getting exciting!
Also, for general interest, there are a couple more boat items, and some
ham radio stuff linked from the main page
http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/index.htm
Bob Larkin
Corvallis, Oregon