Re: Bootleg Plans
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Cooper & Price" <cooperprice@c...>
wrote:
I guess it is a long complicated story some of it told in mesg 1250
here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/1250
In a nutshell:
Elrowe LaRowe was originally given the rights to sell certain plans
providing he built the prototypes. He sold plans but never completed
any of the prototypes but had squared up regarding the royalites.
When Elrowe died the busines was taken over by another fellow
(Bernie Wolfard) with much the same agreement. He went broke and
sold to somebody else to whom no agreement was extended or made
since Bernie was behind on both royalties AND prototype building.
It seems that legal action was taken but the new CSD owner moved to
Canada and PCB&F found it quite frustrating both money and timewise
to pursue the continuing unauthorized selling of his plans. Same
thing happened with a group in Australia (Duck Flat Boatworks) and a
couple of outfits elsewhere outside the USA border.
Perhaps a combination of being too trusting and not making hard
legally binding contractual agreements many years ago.
Dynamite Payson honoured all the agreements and is still authorized
to sell many of the smaller Bolger plans. They are excellent
bargains.
http://www.instantboats.com/
Nels
wrote:
> I was unaware of this and thanks for the info as I've beenconsidering an order myself.
>Hi Jon,
> And why has CSB not been shut down?
>
>
> Jon Cassino
I guess it is a long complicated story some of it told in mesg 1250
here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/1250
In a nutshell:
Elrowe LaRowe was originally given the rights to sell certain plans
providing he built the prototypes. He sold plans but never completed
any of the prototypes but had squared up regarding the royalites.
When Elrowe died the busines was taken over by another fellow
(Bernie Wolfard) with much the same agreement. He went broke and
sold to somebody else to whom no agreement was extended or made
since Bernie was behind on both royalties AND prototype building.
It seems that legal action was taken but the new CSD owner moved to
Canada and PCB&F found it quite frustrating both money and timewise
to pursue the continuing unauthorized selling of his plans. Same
thing happened with a group in Australia (Duck Flat Boatworks) and a
couple of outfits elsewhere outside the USA border.
Perhaps a combination of being too trusting and not making hard
legally binding contractual agreements many years ago.
Dynamite Payson honoured all the agreements and is still authorized
to sell many of the smaller Bolger plans. They are excellent
bargains.
http://www.instantboats.com/
Nels
I was unaware of this and thanks for the info as I've been considering an order myself.
And why has CSB not been shut down?
Jon Cassino
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And why has CSB not been shut down?
Jon Cassino
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----- Original Message -----
From: Nels
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:00 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Plans
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Cooper & Price" <cooperprice@c...>
wrote:
>http://www.common-sense-boats.com/
>
>
>
> Jon Cassino
>
Be aware that the above location is selling unauthorized, illegal boot-
legged plans. There are no royalties being paid to the designer.
The plans themselves are incomplete and you will get no assistance or
updates from the designer, Phil Bolger.
Nels
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