Re: Type/brand sander recommendation
I got a Craftsman 5" RO for Christmas, but it did not survive bottom paint prep on my 25' boat.
I second (third?) the nomination of the Porter-Cable 6" RO sander w/ dust kit. I've worked it hard for several years and it is still doing fine (knock on wood). It is heavy though; I blame it at least partially for tendonitis in my arms and hands. Working overhead doesn't help....
Greg DeCowsky
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Greg DeCowsky
SchoonerCashier@...
Schooner CASHIER Preservation & Restoration Committee
Bayshore Discovery Project
2800 High St. (Bivalve)
Port Norris, NJ 08349
856.785.2060
I second (third?) the nomination of the Porter-Cable 6" RO sander w/ dust kit. I've worked it hard for several years and it is still doing fine (knock on wood). It is heavy though; I blame it at least partially for tendonitis in my arms and hands. Working overhead doesn't help....
Greg DeCowsky
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Greg DeCowsky
SchoonerCashier@...
Schooner CASHIER Preservation & Restoration Committee
Bayshore Discovery Project
2800 High St. (Bivalve)
Port Norris, NJ 08349
856.785.2060
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Heins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
I bought a porter cable random orbit. I'll now have nothing else!
Same here! Porter Cable 333,to be precise :-)
Peter,"the sanding fool" Lenihan
ditto - got my Porter Cable 6" random orbital about 12-13 years ago and love
it. Built 5 boats with it so far, best boatbuilding powertool I've bought. A
few years ago I got the dust collector kit upgrade for it (cost about $45 if
I recall) - it has the shroud, the specially fitted long hose, and the
perforated disk. All you do is spin the old disk off and slip the shroud on,
tighten one screw, then spin on the holey disk, and voilá - you have dust
control. Which on these monsters is crucial - they can really make a cloud.
But they're nice machines, and by varying the grit you can go from heavy
stock removal to finish sanding.
Now if you want to really remove alot of stock on flat surfaces, get a belt
sander - I have a Makita 3"x 21, just about right for the first mow-down,
then I take the P/C to it to get things real smooth. You have to keep the
belt sander moving around, but it does a nice job once you get the feel, at
least on plywood panels that only curve in one direction, as on most Bolger
boats. But it's not a finish sander - for that you want something like the
P/C.
Paul Lefebvre
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From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
adventures_in_astrophotography
I've been using a 5" Porter Cable random orbit sander for 15 years or
so and it's still going strong. Mine doesn't have the vaccuum hook-up,
so I'm planning to get a newer one soon - but not because the old one
has any problems, I just get tired of cleaning up the whole shop after
a sanding session. I don't know how the current Porter Cable models
compare with the other brands (they used to be more expensive), but if
they last as long as mine, the higher price is actually a bargain.
Jon Kolb
it. Built 5 boats with it so far, best boatbuilding powertool I've bought. A
few years ago I got the dust collector kit upgrade for it (cost about $45 if
I recall) - it has the shroud, the specially fitted long hose, and the
perforated disk. All you do is spin the old disk off and slip the shroud on,
tighten one screw, then spin on the holey disk, and voilá - you have dust
control. Which on these monsters is crucial - they can really make a cloud.
But they're nice machines, and by varying the grit you can go from heavy
stock removal to finish sanding.
Now if you want to really remove alot of stock on flat surfaces, get a belt
sander - I have a Makita 3"x 21, just about right for the first mow-down,
then I take the P/C to it to get things real smooth. You have to keep the
belt sander moving around, but it does a nice job once you get the feel, at
least on plywood panels that only curve in one direction, as on most Bolger
boats. But it's not a finish sander - for that you want something like the
P/C.
Paul Lefebvre
-----Original Message-----
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
adventures_in_astrophotography
I've been using a 5" Porter Cable random orbit sander for 15 years or
so and it's still going strong. Mine doesn't have the vaccuum hook-up,
so I'm planning to get a newer one soon - but not because the old one
has any problems, I just get tired of cleaning up the whole shop after
a sanding session. I don't know how the current Porter Cable models
compare with the other brands (they used to be more expensive), but if
they last as long as mine, the higher price is actually a bargain.
Jon Kolb
> Faced with acres(hectares) of epoxy to sand in preparation forI've been using a 5" Porter Cable random orbit sander for 15 years or
> painting, my faithful sanding block seems woefully inadequate.
> Aiming
> for the proverbial work-boat finish, I do not wish to sand to a
> mirror-like finish, but need to put some tooth in the surface for
> paint adhesion. What type of sander, and what brand, is recommended
> by the group conciousness? Money is also a consideration.
so and it's still going strong. Mine doesn't have the vaccuum hook-up,
so I'm planning to get a newer one soon - but not because the old one
has any problems, I just get tired of cleaning up the whole shop after
a sanding session. I don't know how the current Porter Cable models
compare with the other brands (they used to be more expensive), but if
they last as long as mine, the higher price is actually a bargain.
Jon Kolb
Common Sense Skiff
Light Schooner
FastBrick
Big Tortoise
Long Dory
I've got two Porter-Cable 6" random orbitals that are bullet proof. They
hook up to my vacuum. I also have a 5" DeWalt R-O sander for smaller
jobs. Light and works well.
Paul Esterle - Freelance Boating Writer
Columbia 10.7/Matilda 20
North East MD
www.captnpauley.com
pages.preferred.com/~pesterle/
hook up to my vacuum. I also have a 5" DeWalt R-O sander for smaller
jobs. Light and works well.
Paul Esterle - Freelance Boating Writer
Columbia 10.7/Matilda 20
North East MD
www.captnpauley.com
pages.preferred.com/~pesterle/
In the past I have had both Dewalt and Makita 5" ROS.
Today I own 5 Makita's as the Dewalt died an early death.
Both have H&L pads that cost way too much to replace ($20+S&H)
What ever you buy make sure it feels good in your hand because you'll be holding it for hours on end.
I really like how the Makita is shaped but that is a matter of personal preference.
Hope this helps,
Jon Cassino
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Faced with acres(hectares) of epoxy to sand in preparation for
painting, my faithful sanding block seems woefully inadequate. Aiming
for the proverbial work-boat finish, I do not wish to sand to a
mirror-like finish, but need to put some tooth in the surface for
paint adhesion. What type of sander, and what brand, is recommended
by the group conciousness? Money is also a consideration.
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Today I own 5 Makita's as the Dewalt died an early death.
Both have H&L pads that cost way too much to replace ($20+S&H)
What ever you buy make sure it feels good in your hand because you'll be holding it for hours on end.
I really like how the Makita is shaped but that is a matter of personal preference.
Hope this helps,
Jon Cassino
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Faced with acres(hectares) of epoxy to sand in preparation for
painting, my faithful sanding block seems woefully inadequate. Aiming
for the proverbial work-boat finish, I do not wish to sand to a
mirror-like finish, but need to put some tooth in the surface for
paint adhesion. What type of sander, and what brand, is recommended
by the group conciousness? Money is also a consideration.
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I struggled with the same cost benefit analysis when I started building the Chebacco and after ruining one black and decker dual action I bought a porter cable random orbit. I'll now have nothing else!
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:37 PM
Subject: [bolger] Type/brand sander recommendation
Faced with acres(hectares) of epoxy to sand in preparation for
painting, my faithful sanding block seems woefully inadequate. Aiming
for the proverbial work-boat finish, I do not wish to sand to a
mirror-like finish, but need to put some tooth in the surface for
paint adhesion. What type of sander, and what brand, is recommended
by the group conciousness? Money is also a consideration.
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I am cheep, I have a bunch on sanders, I do a lot of sanding on wood.
I love anything hooked up to my shop vac with a high quality ( gore
tex clean streem) filter. I love even more my $300 Fien vacumne with
the HEPA filter. Very quiet and very clean. Walters tool offers a
boat builders kit with the superior Fien random orbit sander. I am
too cheep, I use a 6" Bosh random orbit. The same vacume hose fits my
$50 Bosh speed block. It is as comfortable as my PC speed block, but
it comes with a template for holes, you just mash the sander down on
the prongs and away you go, almost dust free.
The sander that always wins in the price no object is the Festool
angle headed combination. It switches from rotery to random so you
can be extremly aggressive, or with the flip of a lever, do fine work.
The new Bosh looks like a good imitation for around a couple of
hundred less.
What ever you do use the vacumne hook-up. Last month I refinished the
oak treds and risers on our staircase. After three grits there was a
light layer of dust on the furniture in the entry where I was sanding.
I was very impressed with how clean that was. Of course my wife saw
the glass differently!
Richard Menz
Boise, Idaho
I love anything hooked up to my shop vac with a high quality ( gore
tex clean streem) filter. I love even more my $300 Fien vacumne with
the HEPA filter. Very quiet and very clean. Walters tool offers a
boat builders kit with the superior Fien random orbit sander. I am
too cheep, I use a 6" Bosh random orbit. The same vacume hose fits my
$50 Bosh speed block. It is as comfortable as my PC speed block, but
it comes with a template for holes, you just mash the sander down on
the prongs and away you go, almost dust free.
The sander that always wins in the price no object is the Festool
angle headed combination. It switches from rotery to random so you
can be extremly aggressive, or with the flip of a lever, do fine work.
The new Bosh looks like a good imitation for around a couple of
hundred less.
What ever you do use the vacumne hook-up. Last month I refinished the
oak treds and risers on our staircase. After three grits there was a
light layer of dust on the furniture in the entry where I was sanding.
I was very impressed with how clean that was. Of course my wife saw
the glass differently!
Richard Menz
Boise, Idaho
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "camalexander2002" <calex@e...> wrote:
> Faced with acres(hectares) of epoxy to sand in preparation for
> painting, my faithful sanding block seems woefully inadequate. Aiming
> for the proverbial work-boat finish, I do not wish to sand to a
> mirror-like finish, but need to put some tooth in the surface for
> paint adhesion. What type of sander, and what brand, is recommended
> by the group conciousness? Money is also a consideration.
Faced with acres(hectares) of epoxy to sand in preparation for
painting, my faithful sanding block seems woefully inadequate. Aiming
for the proverbial work-boat finish, I do not wish to sand to a
mirror-like finish, but need to put some tooth in the surface for
paint adhesion. What type of sander, and what brand, is recommended
by the group conciousness? Money is also a consideration.
painting, my faithful sanding block seems woefully inadequate. Aiming
for the proverbial work-boat finish, I do not wish to sand to a
mirror-like finish, but need to put some tooth in the surface for
paint adhesion. What type of sander, and what brand, is recommended
by the group conciousness? Money is also a consideration.