Re: [bolger] Digest Number 2573
> But, now trying to figure out how to get the excess lead out without burningA 5 pound heavier centerboard is not a bad thing,
> up the CB wood.
> John Meacham
it would improve the stability of the boat.
It would be fun to see lines for some of the famous
movie boats. I looked at the pictue of the Billings
model and it does appear to be a generic steam launch,
not the 'Queen. I'd love to see some other movie
boats as well. Anybody know what became of the Rita,
from Creature from the Black Lagoon?
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movie boats. I looked at the pictue of the Billings
model and it does appear to be a generic steam launch,
not the 'Queen. I'd love to see some other movie
boats as well. Anybody know what became of the Rita,
from Creature from the Black Lagoon?
> Billings has a model that they claim is copied from__________________________________________________
> the African Queen. Also
> a google search showed up with a link to the actual
> boat used in the movie.
> (someplace in Flordia, but ended with a dead link)
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In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:08:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
OK, I'll bite, where do I find info on the Afican Queen or do I go to
my local movie rental store?
Billings has a model that they claim is copied from the African Queen. Also
a google search showed up with a link to the actual boat used in the movie.
(someplace in Flordia, but ended with a dead link) I built a scale model with a
two cylinder engine (so I could start, stop and reverse by radio control) My
scale model was a lot of fun steaming around in my swimming pool using
alcohol for fuel (bring vodka) My scale model was of the type that you stand waay
back and squint and by moon light it looked something like the boat in the
movie. (Used something like a flat iron skiff for the hull design because it
was easy and had plans on hand.)
I don't know how close the Billings model is to the original, looks as if
they just used a typical English steam launch while the movie showed a square
transom hull design not the fan tail launch typical of that period. Forester
usually was pretty accurate in his boat and ship descriptions, but did not go
into much detail in the story. The Billings model recommends the Midwest
steam plant, but that is a single acting single cylinder oscillating engine and
would not be reversible or self starting. The movie showed a single cylinder
double acting engine that would run in either direction but would need a shove
on the fly wheel if stopped at dead center in either direction. Steam is a
lot of fun and almost as quiet as sails. But, for lakes or rivers only,
boilers don't like salt water.
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bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
OK, I'll bite, where do I find info on the Afican Queen or do I go to
my local movie rental store?
Billings has a model that they claim is copied from the African Queen. Also
a google search showed up with a link to the actual boat used in the movie.
(someplace in Flordia, but ended with a dead link) I built a scale model with a
two cylinder engine (so I could start, stop and reverse by radio control) My
scale model was a lot of fun steaming around in my swimming pool using
alcohol for fuel (bring vodka) My scale model was of the type that you stand waay
back and squint and by moon light it looked something like the boat in the
movie. (Used something like a flat iron skiff for the hull design because it
was easy and had plans on hand.)
I don't know how close the Billings model is to the original, looks as if
they just used a typical English steam launch while the movie showed a square
transom hull design not the fan tail launch typical of that period. Forester
usually was pretty accurate in his boat and ship descriptions, but did not go
into much detail in the story. The Billings model recommends the Midwest
steam plant, but that is a single acting single cylinder oscillating engine and
would not be reversible or self starting. The movie showed a single cylinder
double acting engine that would run in either direction but would need a shove
on the fly wheel if stopped at dead center in either direction. Steam is a
lot of fun and almost as quiet as sails. But, for lakes or rivers only,
boilers don't like salt water.
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It's not clear to me how much excess weight you have. Posssibly you
could lose enough lead by drilling holes in the lead and filling them
with thickened epoxy.
Howard
could lose enough lead by drilling holes in the lead and filling them
with thickened epoxy.
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, catboat15@a... wrote:
> But, now trying to figure out how to get the excess lead out
without burning
> up the CB wood.
In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:08:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
Manhandling a 500 pound slug of lead up and over the
design 519. The drawing show the CB as 1/2 inch thick and a 4 inch square cutout
for a weight. with a note "9.2 lbs" (double checked, but no calcs looked at.)
So cut out the hole and clamped a scrap piece of ply on the bottom, leveled it
up and melted up about 10 lbs of lead that I had on hand from old fish
sinkers. (Used the kitchen stove, SWMBO was off visiting family.) Started pouring
and found that when the drawing was traced a number got put in wrong as by my
own calculations afterwards a 4 inch square 1/2 deep will hold about 3.2 lbs
of lead not 9.2 lbs (Lead is about .409 lbs/cubic inch by my old handbooks.
Hole is about 8 inches cubed so 8 X .4 would be no more than 3.2 lbs of lead)
To add to the fun the molten lead found a void in the plywood that I had
missed and now I have the heaviest CB in town (Maybe even the state) Plus there
was a big puddle of lead on the driveway where the lead ran through the
void, lucked out as it is concrete not asphalt and the lead came free.
But, now trying to figure out how to get the excess lead out without burning
up the CB wood.
John Meacham
High desert of California
Bolger Cartopper.
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bolger@yahoogroups.comwrites:
Manhandling a 500 pound slug of lead up and over the
> sides and down into the bilge and down into the hullPlease don't mention lead to me today. I am doing the Bolger Cartopper
> seems tricky to me.
design 519. The drawing show the CB as 1/2 inch thick and a 4 inch square cutout
for a weight. with a note "9.2 lbs" (double checked, but no calcs looked at.)
So cut out the hole and clamped a scrap piece of ply on the bottom, leveled it
up and melted up about 10 lbs of lead that I had on hand from old fish
sinkers. (Used the kitchen stove, SWMBO was off visiting family.) Started pouring
and found that when the drawing was traced a number got put in wrong as by my
own calculations afterwards a 4 inch square 1/2 deep will hold about 3.2 lbs
of lead not 9.2 lbs (Lead is about .409 lbs/cubic inch by my old handbooks.
Hole is about 8 inches cubed so 8 X .4 would be no more than 3.2 lbs of lead)
To add to the fun the molten lead found a void in the plywood that I had
missed and now I have the heaviest CB in town (Maybe even the state) Plus there
was a big puddle of lead on the driveway where the lead ran through the
void, lucked out as it is concrete not asphalt and the lead came free.
But, now trying to figure out how to get the excess lead out without burning
up the CB wood.
John Meacham
High desert of California
Bolger Cartopper.
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