Re: Update: perfect skiff, was commonsense skiff
I'll be going solo for this contest; if I wind up with a crew I'll
stick to the Frolic2 and switch to a canoe/kayak for the rivers. The
initial thought is to leave out the rowing thwarts (and probably
double the gunnels for extra support), using a rowing seat. The
foredeck would be extended aft to the mast partner and close the aft
deck for some watertight storage. The rudder & leeboatd would be
pivoting, or else they would be too much trouble in the shallow water
that will make up much of the course.
Gary Blankenship
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@y...>
wrote:
stick to the Frolic2 and switch to a canoe/kayak for the rivers. The
initial thought is to leave out the rowing thwarts (and probably
double the gunnels for extra support), using a rowing seat. The
foredeck would be extended aft to the mast partner and close the aft
deck for some watertight storage. The rudder & leeboatd would be
pivoting, or else they would be too much trouble in the shallow water
that will make up much of the course.
Gary Blankenship
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@y...>
wrote:
> That's good news Gary.
>
> Will you also be altering the internal layout? Perhaps shifting the
> two rowing stations, or carrying the bike and other heavier gear
> back around about the aft thwart? Will you be able to have a berth
> for the off duty crew to sleep in when sailing, or for that matter
> when two aren't required to row? Happy figuring.
> Graeme
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbship" <gbship@c...> wrote:
>
> > I think he might have a good point. While probably not as fast as
> the
> > perfect skiff, June Bug would be less tiring to sail and would be
> a
> > much lighter boat.
> lightness, though will have a penalty. This might be
> > the most expensive June Bug ever built . . .
> >
> > Gary Blankenship
That's good news Gary.
Will you also be altering the internal layout? Perhaps shifting the
two rowing stations, or carrying the bike and other heavier gear
back around about the aft thwart? Will you be able to have a berth
for the off duty crew to sleep in when sailing, or for that matter
when two aren't required to row? Happy figuring.
Graeme
Will you also be altering the internal layout? Perhaps shifting the
two rowing stations, or carrying the bike and other heavier gear
back around about the aft thwart? Will you be able to have a berth
for the off duty crew to sleep in when sailing, or for that matter
when two aren't required to row? Happy figuring.
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbship" <gbship@c...> wrote:
> I think he might have a good point. While probably not as fast as
the
> perfect skiff, June Bug would be less tiring to sail and would be
a
> much lighter boat.
lightness, though will have a penalty. This might be
> the most expensive June Bug ever built . . .
>
> Gary Blankenship
Molly's question about the June Bug aluminum mast reminded me that a
thanks is overdue for everyone who responded to my earlier post about
the commonsense skiff (known as the perfect skiff now). Anyway, while
writing to Bolger about something else, I mentioned my possible plans
for the Watertribe ultra challenge and asked if he thought the
perfect skiff could be built light enough to tow by bike for 40
miles. His reply was that he didn't think so, and the boat he
recommended was --- June Bug!
I think he might have a good point. While probably not as fast as the
perfect skiff, June Bug would be less tiring to sail and would be a
much lighter boat.
BTW, did a test to see if building out of foam/fiberglass/epoxy could
be much lighter than ply. Glassed a 10-inch square of 1/4 inch foam
(Klegecell, I think) with three layers of cloth onone side and two on
the other. It came out suprisingly rigid, less flex than a comparable
piece of okoume ply. Went at it with a hammer and it gook a pretty
good wallop before a slight dent was produced. Used the claw side and
got a white line in the glass plus a dent, but didn't seem to
actually crack the glass. I'd espect similar damage/deformation if I
hit the ply that hard. Took the pieces to a scale at work, and the
foam/fiberglass was 10 percent lighter. Not much, but then any
finished boat I build would have at least one side of the ply covered
with glass (this piece was bare) and it seemed obvioused that I could
have eliminated one layer of glass on the three-layer side with
little penalty.
Next step (which I'm in no hurry to do since this boat won't be built
until next year) is to get a scrap of carbon fiber and try that . . .
I was toying with trying a layer each of kevlar & carbon fiber on the
outside, but have read that kevlar is hard to work with and can't be
sanded. All that lightness, though will have a penalty. This might be
the most expensive June Bug ever built . . .
Gary Blankenship
thanks is overdue for everyone who responded to my earlier post about
the commonsense skiff (known as the perfect skiff now). Anyway, while
writing to Bolger about something else, I mentioned my possible plans
for the Watertribe ultra challenge and asked if he thought the
perfect skiff could be built light enough to tow by bike for 40
miles. His reply was that he didn't think so, and the boat he
recommended was --- June Bug!
I think he might have a good point. While probably not as fast as the
perfect skiff, June Bug would be less tiring to sail and would be a
much lighter boat.
BTW, did a test to see if building out of foam/fiberglass/epoxy could
be much lighter than ply. Glassed a 10-inch square of 1/4 inch foam
(Klegecell, I think) with three layers of cloth onone side and two on
the other. It came out suprisingly rigid, less flex than a comparable
piece of okoume ply. Went at it with a hammer and it gook a pretty
good wallop before a slight dent was produced. Used the claw side and
got a white line in the glass plus a dent, but didn't seem to
actually crack the glass. I'd espect similar damage/deformation if I
hit the ply that hard. Took the pieces to a scale at work, and the
foam/fiberglass was 10 percent lighter. Not much, but then any
finished boat I build would have at least one side of the ply covered
with glass (this piece was bare) and it seemed obvioused that I could
have eliminated one layer of glass on the three-layer side with
little penalty.
Next step (which I'm in no hurry to do since this boat won't be built
until next year) is to get a scrap of carbon fiber and try that . . .
I was toying with trying a layer each of kevlar & carbon fiber on the
outside, but have read that kevlar is hard to work with and can't be
sanded. All that lightness, though will have a penalty. This might be
the most expensive June Bug ever built . . .
Gary Blankenship