Re: diablo vs. diablo grande
A friend is building a "tweener" - he has consulted with PB and extended the
basic Diablo to 17 + or - by respacing the frames in the aft sections. The
bottom flat panel is 13-6. He is also building it with a Baltic birch (not a
species, I think it comes from Poland?) marine plywood available from a
specialty supplier locally. This stuff is beautiful and void-free but heavy
compared to the mahoganies. The ply for his boat weighs about 235 lb.
In respacing the forms, he created a "hook" in the aft bottom which he has
decided to leave in - it is about 3/8 inch over 5 or 6 feet from the stern.
I agree with leaving it in - my 20 foot power dory has a flatter planing
attitude since I added spray rails/strakes which slope down about 2 inches
in the aft 5 feet (they are 13 feet long, but rise above the waterline
forward).
He is going to power with a 15 hp 4-stroke, hoping for 20 mph with one
aboard.
I'll post some pictures soon, he is online but not very interested in
gamming. I have forwarded Diablo-centric stuff to him off and on, and he
has contacted David Jost of the group. He's doing a nice job and I'm
looking forward to reporting progress...
Don Hodges
www.ECoastLife.com
Your Emerald Coast Cyber-Vacation
Small-Boat Building, Fishing, Cruising
UPDATED Opinion on Local Issues
basic Diablo to 17 + or - by respacing the frames in the aft sections. The
bottom flat panel is 13-6. He is also building it with a Baltic birch (not a
species, I think it comes from Poland?) marine plywood available from a
specialty supplier locally. This stuff is beautiful and void-free but heavy
compared to the mahoganies. The ply for his boat weighs about 235 lb.
In respacing the forms, he created a "hook" in the aft bottom which he has
decided to leave in - it is about 3/8 inch over 5 or 6 feet from the stern.
I agree with leaving it in - my 20 foot power dory has a flatter planing
attitude since I added spray rails/strakes which slope down about 2 inches
in the aft 5 feet (they are 13 feet long, but rise above the waterline
forward).
He is going to power with a 15 hp 4-stroke, hoping for 20 mph with one
aboard.
I'll post some pictures soon, he is online but not very interested in
gamming. I have forwarded Diablo-centric stuff to him off and on, and he
has contacted David Jost of the group. He's doing a nice job and I'm
looking forward to reporting progress...
Don Hodges
www.ECoastLife.com
Your Emerald Coast Cyber-Vacation
Small-Boat Building, Fishing, Cruising
UPDATED Opinion on Local Issues
Diablo will not tow skiers. It is meant to get up on plane quickly
and
ride fast on its flat bottom. The drag created by the skier will not
be easily overcome by the recommended 15hp motor. I would be scared
to
death to put anything bigger than that on the transom.
I use my Diablo for bluefishing, striper fishing, and fly casting
off the Monomy flats on Cape Cod. The boat is a good swim platform
as
we have often used it for swimming. I weigh 200 lbs and can safely
board over the side soaking wet.
The only drawback to the boat is that it is very light and can
blow around quite a bit. It is not good in chop steeper than 2 feet
in
height. I once got caught in a 4 foot surf and found it almost
impossible to go to windward due to the light weight, fortunately it
was all downwind to the harbor and the boat runs down the surf quite
well with a lot of attention to the helm.
David Jost
and
ride fast on its flat bottom. The drag created by the skier will not
be easily overcome by the recommended 15hp motor. I would be scared
to
death to put anything bigger than that on the transom.
I use my Diablo for bluefishing, striper fishing, and fly casting
off the Monomy flats on Cape Cod. The boat is a good swim platform
as
we have often used it for swimming. I weigh 200 lbs and can safely
board over the side soaking wet.
The only drawback to the boat is that it is very light and can
blow around quite a bit. It is not good in chop steeper than 2 feet
in
height. I once got caught in a 4 foot surf and found it almost
impossible to go to windward due to the light weight, fortunately it
was all downwind to the harbor and the boat runs down the surf quite
well with a lot of attention to the helm.
David Jost
Hi -
You might want to take a look at the 18' Clam Skiff instead - it will
be much more stable. Payson's site has it. Phil drew a "cabin" for
it in Messing About in Boats recently.
Mike
You might want to take a look at the 18' Clam Skiff instead - it will
be much more stable. Payson's site has it. Phil drew a "cabin" for
it in Messing About in Boats recently.
Mike
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, rcava@p... wrote:
> My dad and I are interested in building a diablo for watersports,
> scuba diving, and transportation at the beginning of this summer.
> What we're wondering is if anyone has any thoughts on whether a
> stretched regular Diablo or a Diablo Grande would be a better
boat.
> We're looking for a smooth tracker that handles well in low surf
and
> is capable of towing skiers.
> Thanks,
> Eliza and Rob Cava
Wouldn't the Diablo be a little tender for a dive platform? You'd
have
to climb in carefully over the transom, wouldn't you?
have
to climb in carefully over the transom, wouldn't you?
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, rcava@p... wrote:
> My dad and I are interested in building a diablo for watersports,
> scuba diving, and transportation at the beginning of this summer.
> What we're wondering is if anyone has any thoughts on whether a
> stretched regular Diablo or a Diablo Grande would be a better boat.
> We're looking for a smooth tracker that handles well in low surf
and
> is capable of towing skiers.
> Thanks,
> Eliza and Rob Cava
My dad and I are interested in building a diablo for watersports,
scuba diving, and transportation at the beginning of this summer.
What we're wondering is if anyone has any thoughts on whether a
stretched regular Diablo or a Diablo Grande would be a better boat.
We're looking for a smooth tracker that handles well in low surf and
is capable of towing skiers.
Thanks,
Eliza and Rob Cava
scuba diving, and transportation at the beginning of this summer.
What we're wondering is if anyone has any thoughts on whether a
stretched regular Diablo or a Diablo Grande would be a better boat.
We're looking for a smooth tracker that handles well in low surf and
is capable of towing skiers.
Thanks,
Eliza and Rob Cava