Re: Tennessee

Harry, That would be much appreciated. I'm atedeinhorn@....
Advice by example is much sought after. again, Thanx,Ed

- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote

> Ed if you don't mind me emailing you direct I have some pictures

of us

> precoating one of the Gulls we built a couple of years ago.
>
> HJ
>
> Ed wrote:
>
> >Harry, Me too. Although it's many small pieces I like the idea of
> >putting it all together into one boat in one place. So far I've

got

> >the sides and the frames cut out. All but the transom as that

will

> >be from the 3/4 sheet which is presently doing duty as my

assembly

> >table. All seems to be going well. I'll start assembling the
> >framework to the ply and pre-coating tomorrow. Any suggestions as

> >how to glue and screw the framework and pre-coat both sides at

the

> >same time without making an extreme mess? By the way, thanx for
> >responding to my previous post. I've been taking photos and am
> >waiting for the bride to show me how to post them.
> >ciao,Ed
> >
> >
> >--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> >
> >

Ed if you don't mind me emailing you direct I have some pictures of us
precoating one of the Gulls we built a couple of years ago.

HJ

Ed wrote:

>Harry, Me too. Although it's many small pieces I like the idea of
>putting it all together into one boat in one place. So far I've got
>the sides and the frames cut out. All but the transom as that will
>be from the 3/4 sheet which is presently doing duty as my assembly
>table. All seems to be going well. I'll start assembling the
>framework to the ply and pre-coating tomorrow. Any suggestions as to
>how to glue and screw the framework and pre-coat both sides at the
>same time without making an extreme mess? By the way, thanx for
>responding to my previous post. I've been taking photos and am
>waiting for the bride to show me how to post them.
>ciao,Ed
>
>
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
>
>

Harry, Me too. Although it's many small pieces I like the idea of
putting it all together into one boat in one place. So far I've got
the sides and the frames cut out. All but the transom as that will
be from the 3/4 sheet which is presently doing duty as my assembly
table. All seems to be going well. I'll start assembling the
framework to the ply and pre-coating tomorrow. Any suggestions as to
how to glue and screw the framework and pre-coat both sides at the
same time without making an extreme mess? By the way, thanx for
responding to my previous post. I've been taking photos and am
waiting for the bride to show me how to post them.
ciao,Ed

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> I am aware of Jeff's two piece Tennessee and three piece Wyoming.
My
> Neighbor Fritz built his Sneakeasy in two pieces also. I want to
build
> whatever I build in one piece.
>
> Make sure to take lots of pictures of your project.
>
> HJ
>
> Ed wrote:
>
> >Harry, You'll find at the following:
> >http://4dw.net/cosailor/tennessee.htma rather nice log of
building
> >a Tenn. This fellow had a similar shop space problem and solved
it
> >by building the boat in 2 halves to be joined out of doors by a
butt
> >which happens to fall appr. midway. Also see
> >http://4dw.net/cosailor/collection.htmfor some varied photos. My
> >last delivery, plywood, came friday so I'll start frames for my
> >Tennessee, tentatively called "Fusion" tomorrow.
> >ciao,Ed
> >
> >- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> >
> >

I am aware of Jeff's two piece Tennessee and three piece Wyoming. My
Neighbor Fritz built his Sneakeasy in two pieces also. I want to build
whatever I build in one piece.

Make sure to take lots of pictures of your project.

HJ

Ed wrote:

>Harry, You'll find at the following:
>http://4dw.net/cosailor/tennessee.htma rather nice log of building
>a Tenn. This fellow had a similar shop space problem and solved it
>by building the boat in 2 halves to be joined out of doors by a butt
>which happens to fall appr. midway. Also see
>http://4dw.net/cosailor/collection.htmfor some varied photos. My
>last delivery, plywood, came friday so I'll start frames for my
>Tennessee, tentatively called "Fusion" tomorrow.
>ciao,Ed
>
>- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
>
>

Hmmmm.... Escargot - I like that!

Paul

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Subject: [bolger] Re: TONS OF EYE CANDY! Really!
...And while we're on the subject of things bright and sunny,why not
add some romance into your life and call your
Micro "ESCARGOT".....much nicer then that slug like thing,the
pedestrian snail :-D

Want a nice wine to go with that too?

Sincerely,

Peter"Pierre" Lenihan

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Harry, You'll find at the following:
http://4dw.net/cosailor/tennessee.htma rather nice log of building
a Tenn. This fellow had a similar shop space problem and solved it
by building the boat in 2 halves to be joined out of doors by a butt
which happens to fall appr. midway. Also see
http://4dw.net/cosailor/collection.htmfor some varied photos. My
last delivery, plywood, came friday so I'll start frames for my
Tennessee, tentatively called "Fusion" tomorrow.
ciao,Ed

- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:

> Its on the table with what can only be called a "varied" list. I

> going to make models of the boats on my list and invite all the

non

> members of the Juneau non organized boat builders over to dinner

> October and discuss future projects. I have enough yellow cedar

and

> spruce in the wood shed to frame up one maybe two 24-26 footers.

The one

> problem with the Tennessee is it is just a little big for the

shop. I

> can fit it on the diagonal with room to get around the ends.
>
> Changes, not in hull shape. It needs a little more accommodations

for

> this climate but it has to be done very lightly because of weight

and CG

> issues. Thinking of using a veneer foam sandwich for the decks and

cabin

> top.
>
> HJ
>
> Ron Badley wrote:
>
> >Harry,
> >
> > Excellent. Thank you. Are you planning to build? Any changes in

mind?

> >
> > I'll expand the accommodation somewhat. It will be very very

similar

> >to the Whalewatcher layout, complete with Birdwatcher style walk
> >through cabin. Bow cockpit and stern cockpits will be a little

smaller

> >than designed but then the entire boat can be as open or closed

as one

> >wants with this arrangement. All this depends on the spare time

showing

> >up over the winter.
> >
> >RonB.
> >Halfmoon Bay, B.C.
> >
> >On 12-Aug-05, at 7:49 PM, Harry James wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>$100 when I ordered up a set this last spring.
> >>
> >>HJ
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> Its on the table with what can only be called a "varied" list. I

> going to make models of the boats on my list and invite all the

non

> members of the Juneau non organized boat builders over to dinner

> October and discuss future projects. I have enough yellow cedar

and

> spruce in the wood shed to frame up one maybe two 24-26 footers.

The one

> problem with the Tennessee is it is just a little big for the

shop. I

> can fit it on the diagonal with room to get around the ends.
>
> Changes, not in hull shape. It needs a little more accommodations

for

> this climate but it has to be done very lightly because of weight

and CG

> issues. Thinking of using a veneer foam sandwich for the decks and

cabin

> top.
>
> HJ
>
> Ron Badley wrote:
>
> >Harry,
> >
> > Excellent. Thank you. Are you planning to build? Any changes in

mind?

> >
> > I'll expand the accommodation somewhat. It will be very very

similar

> >to the Whalewatcher layout, complete with Birdwatcher style walk
> >through cabin. Bow cockpit and stern cockpits will be a little

smaller

> >than designed but then the entire boat can be as open or closed

as one

> >wants with this arrangement. All this depends on the spare time

showing

> >up over the winter.
> >
> >RonB.
> >Halfmoon Bay, B.C.
> >
> >On 12-Aug-05, at 7:49 PM, Harry James wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>$100 when I ordered up a set this last spring.
> >>
> >>HJ
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Its on the table with what can only be called a "varied" list. I am
going to make models of the boats on my list and invite all the non
members of the Juneau non organized boat builders over to dinner in
October and discuss future projects. I have enough yellow cedar and
spruce in the wood shed to frame up one maybe two 24-26 footers. The one
problem with the Tennessee is it is just a little big for the shop. I
can fit it on the diagonal with room to get around the ends.

Changes, not in hull shape. It needs a little more accommodations for
this climate but it has to be done very lightly because of weight and CG
issues. Thinking of using a veneer foam sandwich for the decks and cabin
top.

HJ

Ron Badley wrote:

>Harry,
>
> Excellent. Thank you. Are you planning to build? Any changes in mind?
>
> I'll expand the accommodation somewhat. It will be very very similar
>to the Whalewatcher layout, complete with Birdwatcher style walk
>through cabin. Bow cockpit and stern cockpits will be a little smaller
>than designed but then the entire boat can be as open or closed as one
>wants with this arrangement. All this depends on the spare time showing
>up over the winter.
>
>RonB.
>Halfmoon Bay, B.C.
>
>On 12-Aug-05, at 7:49 PM, Harry James wrote:
>
>
>
>>$100 when I ordered up a set this last spring.
>>
>>HJ
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Harry,

Excellent. Thank you. Are you planning to build? Any changes in mind?

I'll expand the accommodation somewhat. It will be very very similar
to the Whalewatcher layout, complete with Birdwatcher style walk
through cabin. Bow cockpit and stern cockpits will be a little smaller
than designed but then the entire boat can be as open or closed as one
wants with this arrangement. All this depends on the spare time showing
up over the winter.

RonB.
Halfmoon Bay, B.C.

On 12-Aug-05, at 7:49 PM, Harry James wrote:

> $100 when I ordered up a set this last spring.
>
> HJ

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ron Badley <badley@s...> wrote:

>Man, a basic > Bolger web site would sure be nice.
>
> RonB.

Bolger is apparently somewhat eccentric. He certainly could market
his products and services in a more conventional manner and see some
gains. But he must be happy w' things as they are. He does not need
to invest money or time in this mail list which does quite a bit of
that work for him.

On 8/12/05, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:

> $100 when I ordered up a set this last spring.

That is good to know, thanks.

I encourage everybody to visit the database
here, and update information about the boats
that they have knowledge about.

[I just added the price to Tennessee]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/database?method=reportRows&tbl=3&query=tennessee

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
Perhaps you could refresh our memories as to
> some of the particulars of the AS-39 formerly known as Loose Moose?
>
> What type of plywood did Jean and Gaby use? And what type of
finish
> coat? Perhaps three blue crowns on the bow? I One thing
> I never saw mention of is that huge bilgeboard.
>
> Is there posted anywhere the upgraded layout study plans compared
to
> LM? It seems that ANENOME has a larger stateroom rather than the
> office and perhaps a forward cabin with above deck doghouse? Does
the
> FAST BRICK go between the two houses?
>
I guess
> the fireplace is meant to be about where the TV set is and the
mast is
> located forward of the wall shown behind the TV?
>
> It is mindboggling to try to fathom the amount of work and
dedication
> shown here, especially considering their previoous boat building
> experience.
>
> Nels

Hi Nels,

Lots of good questions! Sadly I can't really answer all of
them.That's what happens when you spend your time
visiting,drinking,talking,drinking,eating,drinking......well I think
you've got the general spirit of my visit.
I will be returning later in the Fall and will make a dedicated
point to ask ALL the questions before the drinking starts :-)
The leeboard is a monster and was laying at rest inside the
barn.I had already used up all the pictures in the camera by then.
I do know that Jean and Gaby originally began a stock AS-39 à
la
LOOSE MOOSE II but experienced coitus interuptis upon recieving a
call from our Hero about the proposed changes we now see here. It
called for some serious back-paddling in the build since they were
already well along with the original plans.However,they willingly
under-took the "adjustment" as the improvements presented enhanced
features both toward raw interior comforts and raw outside
performance...all of this inspired by their proposed cruising
itinerary.No fair-weather pond sailors are they!
And yes,my mind was boggled too when I first layed eyes on her
and that was just before the"breakfast of champions" ,a steady flow
of ice cold Heinakens(sp),a shade before 0900hrs HEEEHAAAA!

Ideally Jean will read this and post a better reply to your
questions Nels. How's yer French anyway? Canadian,eh? :-D

Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,just a few nuts short of a case..........

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@w...> wrote:

> I could say something about the SCREAMING YELLOW paint job... but

I will

> refrain. To each his own!

> Paul L, thinking a good name for my micro might be 'Snail', given

> building pace of late..

The colour does come off rather bright in the pictures but that is
the el cheapo cameras' fault! I noticed it in the pictures when the
shear band/stripe looked almost the same colour as the hull,when in
real life it is much darker and sets the shear line off nicely not
to mention reducing the overall visual height of the sides.
Considering their cruising plans next summer(upper Northshore of the
St.Lawrence with a winter-over in either Newfoundland or Labrador
followed by a North Atlantic crossing over to Europe) there may be
many advantages to having ones floating home a bright sunny and
cheary colour to compensate for an otherwise grey and dreary
atmosphere.SAR ops will also find the colour easy to spot.

And while we're on the subject of things bright and sunny,why not
add some romance into your life and call your
Micro "ESCARGOT".....much nicer then that slug like thing,the
pedestrian snail :-D

Want a nice wine to go with that too?

Sincerely,

Peter"Pierre" Lenihan

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:

> Wow, what a great job done documenting that major Bolger boat!

Thanks.

Thanks Bruce! I'll have to make another trip in the Fall and will be
better prepared with questions.Mind you, I'd also like to respect
their privacy since this will become their home etc.... I'll also try
to at least borrow a better camera :-)

Peter Lenihan

$100 when I ordered up a set this last spring.

HJ

Ron Badley wrote:

> Is there a price list for Bolger plans anywhere? Specifically, does
>anyone know what the price of the Tennessee plans are? Man, a basic
>Bolger web site would sure be nice.
>
>RonB.
>
>
>
>
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On 12-Aug-05, at 3:33 PM, Howard Stephenson wrote:

>
> OR someone here who has enquired recently might be able to help.
>

This would be ideal. I'm at the "send off the check" stage.

RonB.

I wonder if I can fax off of this thing???

> Bolger web site would sure be nice.
> RonB.

For who? <smile>
Websites are a lot of work!

Actually, there is an attempt at a price database here at the
database section of Yahoo Groups. The trouble is that
Bolger's prices vary over time, coupled with the fact that
our database is only as good as we make it.

A quick fax to PB&F would get a quick reply with a price quote.

[My guess is that they charge no more than $300 for Tennessee.]

The short answer is "No, there is no price-list".

Plans for several of the smaller Bolger designs are available from
H.H. Payson. See:

http://www.instantboats.com

For Tennessee, you could send a letter or fax to the designer and ask.
OR someone here who has enquired recently might be able to help.

Howard

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ron Badley <badley@s...> wrote:
> Is there a price list for Bolger plans anywhere? Specifically,
does
> anyone know what the price of the Tennessee plans are? Man, a basic
> Bolger web site would sure be nice.

Is there a price list for Bolger plans anywhere? Specifically, does
anyone know what the price of the Tennessee plans are? Man, a basic
Bolger web site would sure be nice.

RonB.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@h...>
wrote:

> Bolgerados,
>
> With your kind and gentle tolerance of my craziness,I invite you all
> to have a peak at the AS-39 ANEMONE(ex Le Cabotin) built by Jean and
> Gaby of Montreal Quebec.Pictures and captions can be viewed here:
>

Hi Peter,

Terrific set of photos. Perhaps you could refresh our memories as to
some of the particulars of the AS-39 formerly known as Loose Moose?

What type of plywood did Jean and Gaby use? And what type of finish
coat? To me the colors are gold and blue of which I saw a lot of in
Sweden last year. Perhaps three blue crowns on the bow? I bet it will
look gorgeous once it is all decked out.

It is amazing to imagine a sail that large simply laced to an unstayed
wooden mast with no big vangs or a lot of standing rigging! One thing
I never saw mention of is that huge bilgeboard.

Is there posted anywhere the upgraded layout study plans compared to
LM? It seems that ANENOME has a larger stateroom rather than the
office and perhaps a forward cabin with above deck doghouse? Does the
FAST BRICK go between the two houses?

The hard dodger looks very functional and similar to ALERT'S. I guess
the fireplace is meant to be about where the TV set is and the mast is
located forward of the wall shown behind the TV?

For those who may not have seen previous photos that show a larger
overview of the hull, there are some in Bolger3.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/le%20Cabotin%202003/

It is mindboggling to try to fathom the amount of work and dedication
shown here, especially considering their previoous boat building
experience.

Nels

Amazing. I LOVE the new bow! it completely changes the overall aspect of
this boat, to put such a refined, detailed, functional work of art up front
like that. Beautiful finish all around - very inspiring.

I could say something about the SCREAMING YELLOW paint job... but I will
refrain. To each his own!

Paul L, thinking a good name for my micro might be 'Snail', given my
building pace of late...

Wow, what a great job done documenting that major Bolger boat! Thanks.

Bolgerados,

With your kind and gentle tolerance of my craziness,I invite you all
to have a peak at the AS-39 ANEMONE(ex Le Cabotin) built by Jean and
Gaby of Montreal Quebec.Pictures and captions can be viewed here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger5/files/Le%20Cabotin/

I apologize to those not registered on yet another Bolger yahoo group
but storage space is tight on the other groups and I did not want to
post these pictures in the "photos" section since they become too
small there.

I'd also like to apologize for the quality of some of the pictures as
I used a disposable camera instead of one of those fancy-dancy
numeric
numbers.Perhaps one day,if I can ever be good enough,long
enough,Santa
Claus will finally notice me and drop one into my sock over the
hearth :-)

Also,Jean and Gaby wished to express their regrets for not keeping
their web page up-dated but they really, really, are working to a
dead-
line and still have a fair amount to do on the interior.With so many
little details to attend to yet,I think it reasonable to forgive them
this slight slip-up,no? :-D

Perhaps Jean will post and make any corrections to my commentaries
(photo captions) that may be needed. He doubts his ability to write
in
English but I wholely encourage him to write anyway,since we can all
probably get the gist of it even if in broken English.For that
matter,he could post it all in French and for those not at ease with
this,babelfish.com can translate it for you!

And finally, a big BRAVO to Jean and Gaby for pulling off,with
spectacular results, a Big Bolger Boat Build and despite 5 years and
God knows how many sacrifices,they can now see the ever brightening
light at the end of the tunnel rapidly approaching.And as if that
weren't enough,they are still enjoying the process and each other :-)
Not bad at all for a fellow whose only boatbuilding experience was
the
Bolger/Payson PIROGUE!!!!

Sincerely,

Peter" I can't wait to launch" Lenihan, humble servant and translator
to pirates,drunks,whores(best friends really) from along the shores
of
the excitable St.Lawrence..............