Re: How about this for a motor?

That sounds right from what I've read, too. So if you could drive a
boat at a hull speed of 5 kts with one of these, fuel efficiency would
be pretty good.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>
> > I don't know if these India made Listeroids are fuel efficient or
not.
>
> If I recall correctly, one guy wrote that the 5KW generator he
> built ran for three hours on one gallon of diesel fuel.
>

> I don't know if these India made Listeroids are fuel efficient or not.

If I recall correctly, one guy wrote that the 5KW generator he
built ran for three hours on one gallon of diesel fuel.

I don't know if these India made Listeroids are fuel efficient or not. For countless generations here in British Columbia the British made Lister was always considered the best engine to power a generator in the bush. Are they dirty?? Probably not after you break them in and work on oil leaks. After reading all of The Lister Generator Project on Rocketboy (http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html), I wouldn't hesitate to try one, but I certainly would run it onshore for awhile to get all of the bug/leaks out. Right off I would install superior gaskets, fuel lines, and whatever else is mentioned at the above site (The Lister Generator Project). Make sense?? A fuel efficiency study needs to be done. ...comparisons to Perkins, Yanmar, Deutz, etc, etc. The Listeroid looks good to me, considering the cost.

Philip Smith <pbs@...> wrote:
More downsides are that they aren't very efficient and
they are very dirty.

You can get an air/oil cooled Deutz that runs cleaner,
weighs half as much, probably get 50% or better better
milage and has a worldwide parts network and parts
that are readily available for about the same money if
you buy a used one. Plus you don't have to put one or
two of those pesky holes in the bottom of your boat to
let in and let out water. The Deutz just might run as
long as the Lister too.

Phil Smith

--- russingram <russingram@...> wrote:

> I think it be great to go chugging along with a
> motor like one of
> these...
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman
> <bruce@h...> wrote:
> >
> > I think these motors are straight forward clones
> of old fashioned
> > Lister's and they were used in boats. They are
> just cast iron. super
> > strong and simple, the 'downside' is that they are
> quite heavy.
> >
> > On 11/5/05, russingram <russingram@h...> wrote:
> > > I've seen comment on some web pages that these
> motors are for
> > > stationary installation, only. Anyone know why,
> or why they
> couldn't
> > > be used in a boat?
> >
>
>
>
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We had a boat diesel engine company here in British Columbia during the early 1900's, called Easthope. Single large piston, heavy flywheel, large prop, very low RPM. ...they apparently were VERY popular with commercial fisherman. I read in the early 1980's that the grand kids of the original owner started the company up again, using old tooling, making the same engine. I don't know what is happening with this company/engine now, if anything. Does anybody else know anything about theis engine/company?

ANDREW AIREY <andyairey@...> wrote: This sort of engine was used extensively to power UK
narrow canal boats.Very authentic but after a day
standing over them - the engine compartment is usually
under the steering position - and steering the boat
you get a very insidious form of fatigue.Not good
Cheers
Andy Airey
--- Philip Smith <pbs@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

More downsides are that they aren't very efficient and
they are very dirty.

You can get an air/oil cooled Deutz that runs cleaner,
weighs half as much, probably get 50% or better better
milage and has a worldwide parts network and parts
that are readily available for about the same money if
you buy a used one. Plus you don't have to put one or
two of those pesky holes in the bottom of your boat to
let in and let out water. The Deutz just might run as
long as the Lister too.

Phil Smith

--- russingram <russingram@...> wrote:

> I think it be great to go chugging along with a
> motor like one of
> these...
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman
> <bruce@h...> wrote:
> >
> > I think these motors are straight forward clones
> of old fashioned
> > Lister's and they were used in boats. They are
> just cast iron. super
> > strong and simple, the 'downside' is that they are
> quite heavy.
> >
> > On 11/5/05, russingram <russingram@h...> wrote:
> > > I've seen comment on some web pages that these
> motors are for
> > > stationary installation, only. Anyone know why,
> or why they
> couldn't
> > > be used in a boat?
> >
>
>
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This sort of engine was used extensively to power UK
narrow canal boats.Very authentic but after a day
standing over them - the engine compartment is usually
under the steering position - and steering the boat
you get a very insidious form of fatigue.Not good
Cheers
Andy Airey
--- Philip Smith <pbs@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

More downsides are that they aren't very efficient and
they are very dirty.

You can get an air/oil cooled Deutz that runs cleaner,
weighs half as much, probably get 50% or better better
milage and has a worldwide parts network and parts
that are readily available for about the same money if
you buy a used one. Plus you don't have to put one or
two of those pesky holes in the bottom of your boat to
let in and let out water. The Deutz just might run as
long as the Lister too.

Phil Smith

--- russingram <russingram@...> wrote:

> I think it be great to go chugging along with a
> motor like one of
> these...
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman
> <bruce@h...> wrote:
> >
> > I think these motors are straight forward clones
> of old fashioned
> > Lister's and they were used in boats. They are
> just cast iron. super
> > strong and simple, the 'downside' is that they are
> quite heavy.
> >
> > On 11/5/05, russingram <russingram@h...> wrote:
> > > I've seen comment on some web pages that these
> motors are for
> > > stationary installation, only. Anyone know why,
> or why they
> couldn't
> > > be used in a boat?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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At 11:00 AM 11/5/05, Bruce Hallman wrote:

>I guess it would requires a belt drive to the driveshaft? With the
>motor mounted sideways?

There are some comments on the generator sites of mounting a drive lug to
the center of one of the flywheels, and using a flexible spider type
coupling. There are also comments that these inline couplings are _very_
sensitive to mis-alignment.

Regards,
Ron Butterfield

More downsides are that they aren't very efficient and
they are very dirty.

You can get an air/oil cooled Deutz that runs cleaner,
weighs half as much, probably get 50% or better better
milage and has a worldwide parts network and parts
that are readily available for about the same money if
you buy a used one. Plus you don't have to put one or
two of those pesky holes in the bottom of your boat to
let in and let out water. The Deutz just might run as
long as the Lister too.

Phil Smith

--- russingram <russingram@...> wrote:

> I think it be great to go chugging along with a
> motor like one of
> these...
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman
> <bruce@h...> wrote:
> >
> > I think these motors are straight forward clones
> of old fashioned
> > Lister's and they were used in boats. They are
> just cast iron. super
> > strong and simple, the 'downside' is that they are
> quite heavy.
> >
> > On 11/5/05, russingram <russingram@h...> wrote:
> > > I've seen comment on some web pages that these
> motors are for
> > > stationary installation, only. Anyone know why,
> or why they
> couldn't
> > > be used in a boat?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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I think it be great to go chugging along with a motor like one of
these...

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>
> I think these motors are straight forward clones of old fashioned
> Lister's and they were used in boats. They are just cast iron. super
> strong and simple, the 'downside' is that they are quite heavy.
>
> On 11/5/05, russingram <russingram@h...> wrote:
> > I've seen comment on some web pages that these motors are for
> > stationary installation, only. Anyone know why, or why they
couldn't
> > be used in a boat?
>

I think these motors are straight forward clones of old fashioned
Lister's and they were used in boats. They are just cast iron. super
strong and simple, the 'downside' is that they are quite heavy.

On 11/5/05, russingram <russingram@...> wrote:
> I've seen comment on some web pages that these motors are for
> stationary installation, only. Anyone know why, or why they couldn't
> be used in a boat?

I've seen comment on some web pages that these motors are for
stationary installation, only. Anyone know why, or why they couldn't
be used in a boat?

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>
> That is the two cylinder model, there is also a one cyliner version.
> The shipping works out to be $867 to my house! The motor is
> certainly big and heavy for a boat, but heavy (down low) is good.
>
> Web searching finds a couple other sources, including:
>
>http://oldstylelisters.com/
>
> I guess it would requires a belt drive to the driveshaft? With the
> motor mounted sideways?
>

That is the two cylinder model, there is also a one cyliner version.
The shipping works out to be $867 to my house! The motor is
certainly big and heavy for a boat, but heavy (down low) is good.

Web searching finds a couple other sources, including:

http://oldstylelisters.com/

I guess it would requires a belt drive to the driveshaft? With the
motor mounted sideways?

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:

>
>http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html
>
> Anybody else like the look of this diesel motor,
> and which boat to put it in?
>

available on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/12-HP-Slow-Speed-Diesel-Engine-Lister-2-
Cylinder_W0QQitemZ7558640902QQcategoryZ11754QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem

The very name of Lister makes me nostalgic for the
English canals, where there are still many in use. I
had a narrowboat there with a 3 cylinder air cooled
Lister which, though a bit noisy, just chugged on and
on and on.

Deek

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>Anybody else like the look of this diesel motor,
>and which boat to put it in?
>
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http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html

Anybody else like the look of this diesel motor,
and which boat to put it in?