Re: [bolger] Re: Sanding epoxy fillets / new tool
Thank you for good information. I encourage others that have such
information on sanders, sand paper or other building information. I hate
to sand !
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:20:29 ESTRKAMILS@...writes:
information on sanders, sand paper or other building information. I hate
to sand !
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:20:29 ESTRKAMILS@...writes:
> Just for everyone's info, Sears sell one also. Probably made for them
> by B&D,
> but its not orange. Otherwise its the same tool.
> On the topic of sanding, 3Ms Sandblaster series of belt and disc
> sanders
> (purple) are much better than standard ones. They cost twice as
> much, but last
> about 5 times longer as they don't gum up with resin like the reg.
> ones.
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> Bob
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Just for everyone's info, Sears sell one also. Probably made for them by B&D,
but its not orange. Otherwise its the same tool.
On the topic of sanding, 3Ms Sandblaster series of belt and disc sanders
(purple) are much better than standard ones. They cost twice as much, but last
about 5 times longer as they don't gum up with resin like the reg. ones.
Bob
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but its not orange. Otherwise its the same tool.
On the topic of sanding, 3Ms Sandblaster series of belt and disc sanders
(purple) are much better than standard ones. They cost twice as much, but last
about 5 times longer as they don't gum up with resin like the reg. ones.
Bob
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I've had one of the B&D Dragsters for about 6 mo. Works well. I had a
tracking problem after using it for a while, and found that some resin
had gotten on the front roller forming little flat "blisters". I
picked them off with my fingernail and it tracks fine again. Good idea
using it for fillets.
tracking problem after using it for a while, and found that some resin
had gotten on the front roller forming little flat "blisters". I
picked them off with my fingernail and it tracks fine again. Good idea
using it for fillets.
For TEMPORARY repair, 3M Premium Vinyl Plastic Electrical Tape, 7 bucks a roll.
For service repair, Ancor adhesive lined shrink tubing at $15.99 for a 48" length.
Either way it was more economical for the guy to buy a new extension cord.
Great quality boat stuff. Ancor stuff that is...
Rick
you never did tell use the best
kind of electrical tape to repair an old extension cord:-(
Enquiring minds etc...
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For service repair, Ancor adhesive lined shrink tubing at $15.99 for a 48" length.
Either way it was more economical for the guy to buy a new extension cord.
Great quality boat stuff. Ancor stuff that is...
Rick
you never did tell use the best
kind of electrical tape to repair an old extension cord:-(
Enquiring minds etc...
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For cleaning up my goofs with epoxy and glass, I've found these to be the
greatest.
http://www.thebestthings.com/newtools/hook_shave_scrapers.htm
That said, I got mine from a discount place for about five dollars for the
set of three. That was several years ago.
There's all kinds of magic written about "forming the hook," but I usually
just give them a swipe with a file and they work fine.
The other "must have" is the shoemaker's rasp.
Roger
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greatest.
http://www.thebestthings.com/newtools/hook_shave_scrapers.htm
That said, I got mine from a discount place for about five dollars for the
set of three. That was several years ago.
There's all kinds of magic written about "forming the hook," but I usually
just give them a swipe with a file and they work fine.
The other "must have" is the shoemaker's rasp.
Roger
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Lepak" <gnjlepak@...>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sctree" <sctree@...>
>>I found a solution to a problem yesterday.
>> But first, I hate sanding fillets, yet I do it because I like
>> the way sanded fillets look.
>
> I've found a Dremel tool with a flexible shaft and a drum sander to be
> great
> for sanding fillets and getting into any tight places to grind down edges
> of
> glass or putty bumps. I've also used a larger diameter drum sander on the
> end of flexible shaft that goes in any electric drill. I think it is 1
> 1/2"
> diameter. The Dremel tool is so small sometimes it is handy without the
> flexible shaft in more open spaces. The little sanding drums seem to last
> a
> surprisingly long time too, and sometimes I use the grinding stone
> attachments.
>http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=dremel+tool&btnG=Search+Froogle
>
> Gary
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Trussell" <John.Trussell@w...>
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kind of electrical tape to repair an old extension cord:-(
Enquiring minds etc...
Nels
wrote:
>the name
> Rick--Great story and I can relate to a lot of it. But...what is
> of the manufacturer?I found the post very interesting but you never did tell use the best
>
> John T
kind of electrical tape to repair an old extension cord:-(
Enquiring minds etc...
Nels
On 11/13/05, John B. Trussell <John.Trussell@...> wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZU73I/002-2838183-0108012
> Rick--Great story and I can relate to a lot of it. But...what is the nameBlack and Decker
> of the manufacturer?
>
> John T
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZU73I/002-2838183-0108012
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From: "sctree" <sctree@...>
>I found a solution to a problem yesterday.
>
> But first, I hate sanding fillets, yet I do it because I like the way
> sanded
> fillets look.
I've found a Dremel tool with a flexible shaft and a drum sander to be great
for sanding fillets and getting into any tight places to grind down edges of
glass or putty bumps. I've also used a larger diameter drum sander on the
end of flexible shaft that goes in any electric drill. I think it is 1 1/2"
diameter. The Dremel tool is so small sometimes it is handy without the
flexible shaft in more open spaces. The little sanding drums seem to last a
surprisingly long time too, and sometimes I use the grinding stone
attachments.
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=dremel+tool&btnG=Search+Froogle
Gary
Rick--Great story and I can relate to a lot of it. But...what is the name
of the manufacturer?
John T
of the manufacturer?
John T
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Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:17 AM
Subject: [bolger] Sanding epoxy fillets / new tool
>I found a solution to a problem yesterday.
>
> But first, I hate sanding fillets, yet I do it because I like the way
> sanded
> fillets look. More importantly I love the ease of cleaning an area in
> a
> boat that has smooth even fillets, you know, the kind that look like
> cove molding, seamlessly blending two plywood panels that meet at 90
> degrees into one... So I
> sand my fillets smooth. Oh, I know the tricks, I use a nicely radius
> filleting tool, use biaxial cloth strips to avoid the selvage edge,
> lightly brush on a flowing epoxy top coat, carefully cover with 10
> mil
> plactic strips and ever so gently smooth with a specially crafted
> radiused smoothing tool... But I still screw up. And I hardly ever
> have
> the time to get back to the fillets before they are rock hard.. So I
> sand, by hand, with 60 grit, the black kind used for floor sanders
> because it cuts faster. My grip strength is begining to fail, so even
> with a purpose made sandpaper holder, a block of wood the size of a
> deck of cards glued to the side of a 4" long dowel, after 30 minutes
> or
> so my hand is cramped. After rough sanding I brush on
> epoxy/microlite
> to fill the low spots, and sand again.. What a pain... And I have
> lots
> of fillets in my current build.
>
> OK, that's the setup, now let's go back to yesterday. I'm in my local
> hardware store holding more plumbing fittings than I can possibly
> carry
> trying to keep them from spilling all over the floor while patiently,
> or at least trying to appear patiently waiting behind the customer
> ahead of me who is deeply involved in a long discussion concerning
> which type of electrical tape would actually be best for him to use
> to
> repair his worn out electrical extension cord. He's so wrapped up in
> his conversation that he doesn't realize he's also taking up so much
> space with his arm movements that it's impossible for me to squeeze
> up
> to the counter and set down my armload of 1/2" galvanized elbows,
> tees,
> couplers and unions. In desperation I choose to squat down and set my
> collection on the floor. That's when I see it. In the bottom of the
> display case. A belt sander. It's so "little boy plastic toy car"
> looking that I laugh. It's even orange plastic. And it's sloped like
> a
> race car with a giant wheel in the rear and a teeny tiny wheel up
> front. It's even called a "Dragster"... Then it dawns on me, that
> front
> drum is of small enough radius to clean up my fillets.. If only the
> guard over the top of the front end could be cut off so I could get
> the
> nose of the thing into the tight corners.. (*note I'm aware of stick
> sanders, a friend has one, but the 3/8" wide belts wear out quickly
> and
> are pricey). I'm intrigued enough that when it's my turn at the
> counter
> I ignore my pile of plumbing fittings and ask to see the sander..
> Guess
> what, the front upper guard flips up out of the way exposing the
> front
> two inches of the narrow diameter drum, and the thing uses 3" x 21"
> belts.... Four minutes and $68 later I got me a new fillet sander...
>
> Tried it this morning on some of last weeks fillets... Wow, does it
> do
> a nice job, and fast... Now I have to figure out what to do with all
> my
> extra time...
>
> Oh, I also have to go back to the store tomorrow and buy those
> fittings
> I left on the floor...
>
> Rick, sanding my fillets with the greatest of ease in Reliz Canyon...
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I found a solution to a problem yesterday.
But first, I hate sanding fillets, yet I do it because I like the way
sanded
fillets look. More importantly I love the ease of cleaning an area in
a
boat that has smooth even fillets, you know, the kind that look like
cove molding, seamlessly blending two plywood panels that meet at 90
degrees into one... So I
sand my fillets smooth. Oh, I know the tricks, I use a nicely radius
filleting tool, use biaxial cloth strips to avoid the selvage edge,
lightly brush on a flowing epoxy top coat, carefully cover with 10
mil
plactic strips and ever so gently smooth with a specially crafted
radiused smoothing tool... But I still screw up. And I hardly ever
have
the time to get back to the fillets before they are rock hard.. So I
sand, by hand, with 60 grit, the black kind used for floor sanders
because it cuts faster. My grip strength is begining to fail, so even
with a purpose made sandpaper holder, a block of wood the size of a
deck of cards glued to the side of a 4" long dowel, after 30 minutes
or
so my hand is cramped. After rough sanding I brush on
epoxy/microlite
to fill the low spots, and sand again.. What a pain... And I have
lots
of fillets in my current build.
OK, that's the setup, now let's go back to yesterday. I'm in my local
hardware store holding more plumbing fittings than I can possibly
carry
trying to keep them from spilling all over the floor while patiently,
or at least trying to appear patiently waiting behind the customer
ahead of me who is deeply involved in a long discussion concerning
which type of electrical tape would actually be best for him to use
to
repair his worn out electrical extension cord. He's so wrapped up in
his conversation that he doesn't realize he's also taking up so much
space with his arm movements that it's impossible for me to squeeze
up
to the counter and set down my armload of 1/2" galvanized elbows,
tees,
couplers and unions. In desperation I choose to squat down and set my
collection on the floor. That's when I see it. In the bottom of the
display case. A belt sander. It's so "little boy plastic toy car"
looking that I laugh. It's even orange plastic. And it's sloped like
a
race car with a giant wheel in the rear and a teeny tiny wheel up
front. It's even called a "Dragster"... Then it dawns on me, that
front
drum is of small enough radius to clean up my fillets.. If only the
guard over the top of the front end could be cut off so I could get
the
nose of the thing into the tight corners.. (*note I'm aware of stick
sanders, a friend has one, but the 3/8" wide belts wear out quickly
and
are pricey). I'm intrigued enough that when it's my turn at the
counter
I ignore my pile of plumbing fittings and ask to see the sander..
Guess
what, the front upper guard flips up out of the way exposing the
front
two inches of the narrow diameter drum, and the thing uses 3" x 21"
belts.... Four minutes and $68 later I got me a new fillet sander...
Tried it this morning on some of last weeks fillets... Wow, does it
do
a nice job, and fast... Now I have to figure out what to do with all
my
extra time...
Oh, I also have to go back to the store tomorrow and buy those
fittings
I left on the floor...
Rick, sanding my fillets with the greatest of ease in Reliz Canyon...
But first, I hate sanding fillets, yet I do it because I like the way
sanded
fillets look. More importantly I love the ease of cleaning an area in
a
boat that has smooth even fillets, you know, the kind that look like
cove molding, seamlessly blending two plywood panels that meet at 90
degrees into one... So I
sand my fillets smooth. Oh, I know the tricks, I use a nicely radius
filleting tool, use biaxial cloth strips to avoid the selvage edge,
lightly brush on a flowing epoxy top coat, carefully cover with 10
mil
plactic strips and ever so gently smooth with a specially crafted
radiused smoothing tool... But I still screw up. And I hardly ever
have
the time to get back to the fillets before they are rock hard.. So I
sand, by hand, with 60 grit, the black kind used for floor sanders
because it cuts faster. My grip strength is begining to fail, so even
with a purpose made sandpaper holder, a block of wood the size of a
deck of cards glued to the side of a 4" long dowel, after 30 minutes
or
so my hand is cramped. After rough sanding I brush on
epoxy/microlite
to fill the low spots, and sand again.. What a pain... And I have
lots
of fillets in my current build.
OK, that's the setup, now let's go back to yesterday. I'm in my local
hardware store holding more plumbing fittings than I can possibly
carry
trying to keep them from spilling all over the floor while patiently,
or at least trying to appear patiently waiting behind the customer
ahead of me who is deeply involved in a long discussion concerning
which type of electrical tape would actually be best for him to use
to
repair his worn out electrical extension cord. He's so wrapped up in
his conversation that he doesn't realize he's also taking up so much
space with his arm movements that it's impossible for me to squeeze
up
to the counter and set down my armload of 1/2" galvanized elbows,
tees,
couplers and unions. In desperation I choose to squat down and set my
collection on the floor. That's when I see it. In the bottom of the
display case. A belt sander. It's so "little boy plastic toy car"
looking that I laugh. It's even orange plastic. And it's sloped like
a
race car with a giant wheel in the rear and a teeny tiny wheel up
front. It's even called a "Dragster"... Then it dawns on me, that
front
drum is of small enough radius to clean up my fillets.. If only the
guard over the top of the front end could be cut off so I could get
the
nose of the thing into the tight corners.. (*note I'm aware of stick
sanders, a friend has one, but the 3/8" wide belts wear out quickly
and
are pricey). I'm intrigued enough that when it's my turn at the
counter
I ignore my pile of plumbing fittings and ask to see the sander..
Guess
what, the front upper guard flips up out of the way exposing the
front
two inches of the narrow diameter drum, and the thing uses 3" x 21"
belts.... Four minutes and $68 later I got me a new fillet sander...
Tried it this morning on some of last weeks fillets... Wow, does it
do
a nice job, and fast... Now I have to figure out what to do with all
my
extra time...
Oh, I also have to go back to the store tomorrow and buy those
fittings
I left on the floor...
Rick, sanding my fillets with the greatest of ease in Reliz Canyon...