Re: [bolger] Cartopper - first sail (second attempt)
Hi Paul,
I too use hooks on my Chuck Merrell-designed Peach Pie. A lot depends on how you position yourself for going about. I tend to skuttle around on the bottom of the boat (alos a 10-footer), facing aft as she goes through the eye of the wind, and hooking on the new lee side once she's gone through it.
Mind you, there's frequently a bit of swearing goes on when I miss the hook and the boat does a 360!
I use a sprit boom as well as the up-and-down sprit and that helps a lot. In fact with the boom I could go over to a rope 'horse' for sheeting, but I do like the low-tech thumb-cleats - very 'organic' . . .
Cheers,
Bill
I too use hooks on my Chuck Merrell-designed Peach Pie. A lot depends on how you position yourself for going about. I tend to skuttle around on the bottom of the boat (alos a 10-footer), facing aft as she goes through the eye of the wind, and hooking on the new lee side once she's gone through it.
Mind you, there's frequently a bit of swearing goes on when I miss the hook and the boat does a 360!
I use a sprit boom as well as the up-and-down sprit and that helps a lot. In fact with the boom I could go over to a rope 'horse' for sheeting, but I do like the low-tech thumb-cleats - very 'organic' . . .
Cheers,
Bill
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From: paulthober
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:57 AM
Subject: [bolger] Cartopper - first sail (second attempt)
I finished sewing the sail for my Cartopper a couple of days ago. I
bought a Sailrite kit (the four-cornered sprit-sail option) and it went
together just fine, although sewing this "cloth" tried my patience
more than once. (This was my first attempt at making a sail)
I took the boat up to Lake Berryessa, atop my car of course (See:
http://daviswiki.org/dwiki/data/pages/PaulThober/attachments/cartoppercartopped.thumbnail.192.144.jpg)
and sailed her for a couple of hours. The boat handled quite nicely
despite the blustery winds. (15+ kt. gusts interspersed with calms)
Tacking the boat was a bit unpleasant, however, with much flapping of
the sail and difficulty getting the mainsheet from one hook to the
other. Does anyone have an alternative sheeting arrangement that makes
this a bit less dramatic?
Paul Thober
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the helm over, when the bow passed through the eye of the wind, or
later? Suggestion: hang on to the sail all the way through stays, let
it backwind, and release and re-hook it only when you're all the way
over on the new tack.
-- Sue --
(not that I own a Cartopper or anything)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>When did you release the sheet on the old tack? Was it when you put
> Tacking the boat was a bit unpleasant, however, with much flapping of
> the sail and difficulty getting the mainsheet from one hook to the
> other.
the helm over, when the bow passed through the eye of the wind, or
later? Suggestion: hang on to the sail all the way through stays, let
it backwind, and release and re-hook it only when you're all the way
over on the new tack.
-- Sue --
(not that I own a Cartopper or anything)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Paul--I don't have any first hand experience with a boomless sprit sail so
my comments are suspect.
Possible options are: 1) the addition of a boom (see the sail plan of PCB's
Sweet Pea) with the sheet run through a block on the rudder head. 2) a two
part sheet similiar to what you find on jibs, with each part led to a block
or fairlead where the hooks are now located.
Neither suggestion is based on actual knowledge and either option may be
bogus.
Good luck.
John T
my comments are suspect.
Possible options are: 1) the addition of a boom (see the sail plan of PCB's
Sweet Pea) with the sheet run through a block on the rudder head. 2) a two
part sheet similiar to what you find on jibs, with each part led to a block
or fairlead where the hooks are now located.
Neither suggestion is based on actual knowledge and either option may be
bogus.
Good luck.
John T
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From: "paulthober" <paulthober@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:57 PM
Subject: [bolger] Cartopper - first sail (second attempt)
>I finished sewing the sail for my Cartopper a couple of days ago. I
> bought a Sailrite kit (the four-cornered sprit-sail option) and it went
> together just fine, although sewing this "cloth" tried my patience
> more than once. (This was my first attempt at making a sail)
>
> I took the boat up to Lake Berryessa, atop my car of course (See:
>http://daviswiki.org/dwiki/data/pages/PaulThober/attachments/cartoppercartopped.thumbnail.192.144.jpg)
> and sailed her for a couple of hours. The boat handled quite nicely
> despite the blustery winds. (15+ kt. gusts interspersed with calms)
> Tacking the boat was a bit unpleasant, however, with much flapping of
> the sail and difficulty getting the mainsheet from one hook to the
> other. Does anyone have an alternative sheeting arrangement that makes
> this a bit less dramatic?
>
> Paul Thober
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I finished sewing the sail for my Cartopper a couple of days ago. I
bought a Sailrite kit (the four-cornered sprit-sail option) and it went
together just fine, although sewing this "cloth" tried my patience
more than once. (This was my first attempt at making a sail)
I took the boat up to Lake Berryessa, atop my car of course (See:
http://daviswiki.org/dwiki/data/pages/PaulThober/attachments/cartoppercartopped.thumbnail.192.144.jpg)
and sailed her for a couple of hours. The boat handled quite nicely
despite the blustery winds. (15+ kt. gusts interspersed with calms)
Tacking the boat was a bit unpleasant, however, with much flapping of
the sail and difficulty getting the mainsheet from one hook to the
other. Does anyone have an alternative sheeting arrangement that makes
this a bit less dramatic?
Paul Thober
bought a Sailrite kit (the four-cornered sprit-sail option) and it went
together just fine, although sewing this "cloth" tried my patience
more than once. (This was my first attempt at making a sail)
I took the boat up to Lake Berryessa, atop my car of course (See:
http://daviswiki.org/dwiki/data/pages/PaulThober/attachments/cartoppercartopped.thumbnail.192.144.jpg)
and sailed her for a couple of hours. The boat handled quite nicely
despite the blustery winds. (15+ kt. gusts interspersed with calms)
Tacking the boat was a bit unpleasant, however, with much flapping of
the sail and difficulty getting the mainsheet from one hook to the
other. Does anyone have an alternative sheeting arrangement that makes
this a bit less dramatic?
Paul Thober