Re: Daysailer Sharpie Design Selection
Rob,
Sorry for the late post, but I was thinking along the same line. My
first thought was the 16 foot "Stickup Rig" with the optional balanced
club jib Mr. Parker mentiones. It is a pretty boat in the water. I saw
it at a Mystic Wooden Boat show some years back.
Lewis
Sorry for the late post, but I was thinking along the same line. My
first thought was the 16 foot "Stickup Rig" with the optional balanced
club jib Mr. Parker mentiones. It is a pretty boat in the water. I saw
it at a Mystic Wooden Boat show some years back.
Lewis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Mouradian" <r_mouradian@y...> wrote:
>
> Check out Ruel Parker's "Sharpie Book." It is well written, has pretty
> good building instructions and includes plans for several sharpies with
> lengths from 14 feet up. The plans are not very detailed, but they
> include the offsets and if you have built a boat before they should be
> adequate. You can see a sample of his designs at his web site.
>
> Rob M
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> > styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
> > or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
> > primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
> > leeboards.
> >
> > Thanks
> > BOBBY
> >
>
The "Ohio" sharpie is one of the most popular.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Mouradian" <r_mouradian@y...> wrote:
>
> Check out Ruel Parker's "Sharpie Book." It is well written, has pretty
> good building instructions and includes plans for several sharpies with
> lengths from 14 feet up. The plans are not very detailed, but they
> include the offsets and if you have built a boat before they should be
> adequate. You can see a sample of his designs at his web site.
>
> Rob M
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> > styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
> > or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
> > primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
> > leeboards.
> >
> > Thanks
> > BOBBY
> >
>
Bruce,
Heresy, indeed ;^) I talked about our thorough search, but I could
have added more. At the time, I looked at every Bolger design I
could find. There were quite a few, and we did consider some of
them. I really like Bolger's approach. I really, really like the
magic that has resulted from some of his very innovative designs.
Turns out, in the almost 2 years since, I've continued to discover
new designs. In fact, there are a lot of Bolger designs I wasn't
aware of when we were picking. A Very Lot! Can't say if we'd have
picked one of them in preference to the [not a Bolger design], but
there certainly are a lot of great boats.
Perhaps if we heard a list of the requirements for this boat, Bruce
and some of the other experienced hands could better make
recommendations.
Cheers,
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"Experience starts when you begin" -- Pete Culler
********************
Heresy, indeed ;^) I talked about our thorough search, but I could
have added more. At the time, I looked at every Bolger design I
could find. There were quite a few, and we did consider some of
them. I really like Bolger's approach. I really, really like the
magic that has resulted from some of his very innovative designs.
Turns out, in the almost 2 years since, I've continued to discover
new designs. In fact, there are a lot of Bolger designs I wasn't
aware of when we were picking. A Very Lot! Can't say if we'd have
picked one of them in preference to the [not a Bolger design], but
there certainly are a lot of great boats.
Perhaps if we heard a list of the requirements for this boat, Bruce
and some of the other experienced hands could better make
recommendations.
Cheers,
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"Experience starts when you begin" -- Pete Culler
********************
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
>
> > The boat we chose was [not a Bolger boat].
> > David Graybeal
>
> Heresy. <grin>
>
> With 700+ Bolger designs to choose from,
> you couldn't find what you want?
>
> Windsprint is a tried and true boat, and you couldn't go wrong.
>
> There is also Bolger's Featherwind.
>
>http://www.simplicityboats.com/featherwind.html
>
> I recomend that you step one knotch up and build a Zephyr
>
>http://www.instantboats.com/zephyr.htm
> The boat we chose was [not a Bolger boat].Heresy. <grin>
> David Graybeal
With 700+ Bolger designs to choose from,
you couldn't find what you want?
Windsprint is a tried and true boat, and you couldn't go wrong.
There is also Bolger's Featherwind.
http://www.simplicityboats.com/featherwind.html
I recomend that you step one knotch up and build a Zephyr
http://www.instantboats.com/zephyr.htm
Bobby,
I can tell you which design we picked, after a very thorough
researching of plans available. First, let me tell you the criteria
that we used. We wanted something that would be very simple to build
(therefore plywood & epoxy). Two of the building crew were my 11 & 17
year old sons. I wanted them to be able to do a lot of the work
without their woodworker dad fussing about the quality/details. We
also had a limited amount of hours per week to devote to the project,
so wanted something that'd go together quickly. Nevertheless, we
wanted something that looked like a boat... not a floating packing
crate. Didn't have to be dropdead gorgeous, just not slabsided
buttugly. We also wanted it to be under 16'. Finally, we looked for a
maximum # of passengers for the size, while still being lightweight.
The boat we chose was the Goat Island Skiff, by Michael Storer. It's
an open, plywood, sharpie skiff - designed to sail, row, or accept a
small outboard. We put it in the water last Spring with oars &
ouboard. So far, we are very happy with how it met our design
criteria. We had a couple a mild surprises. First - it turned out a
bit heavier than the designed weight of 130#. Understandable, since we
replaced some of the trim pieces with denser/heavier wood, and beefed
up other bits slightly. Second - it turned out much prettier than we
were prepared to accept. Partly because of the trim replacements
mentioned, and partly because the photos didn't do justice to the the
sweetly subtle curvaciousness and traditional lines of this boat. You
can judge for yourself how well this design matches your own needs,
but for us it's a very good fit. For more info, Google "Goat Island
Skiff", or Michael Storer. You can also contact me directly for more.
Good Luck,
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"Art is all of a boat but the wood" - Thoreau
*******************
I can tell you which design we picked, after a very thorough
researching of plans available. First, let me tell you the criteria
that we used. We wanted something that would be very simple to build
(therefore plywood & epoxy). Two of the building crew were my 11 & 17
year old sons. I wanted them to be able to do a lot of the work
without their woodworker dad fussing about the quality/details. We
also had a limited amount of hours per week to devote to the project,
so wanted something that'd go together quickly. Nevertheless, we
wanted something that looked like a boat... not a floating packing
crate. Didn't have to be dropdead gorgeous, just not slabsided
buttugly. We also wanted it to be under 16'. Finally, we looked for a
maximum # of passengers for the size, while still being lightweight.
The boat we chose was the Goat Island Skiff, by Michael Storer. It's
an open, plywood, sharpie skiff - designed to sail, row, or accept a
small outboard. We put it in the water last Spring with oars &
ouboard. So far, we are very happy with how it met our design
criteria. We had a couple a mild surprises. First - it turned out a
bit heavier than the designed weight of 130#. Understandable, since we
replaced some of the trim pieces with denser/heavier wood, and beefed
up other bits slightly. Second - it turned out much prettier than we
were prepared to accept. Partly because of the trim replacements
mentioned, and partly because the photos didn't do justice to the the
sweetly subtle curvaciousness and traditional lines of this boat. You
can judge for yourself how well this design matches your own needs,
but for us it's a very good fit. For more info, Google "Goat Island
Skiff", or Michael Storer. You can also contact me directly for more.
Good Luck,
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"Art is all of a boat but the wood" - Thoreau
*******************
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@y...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a
plywood or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
> primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
> leeboards.
>
> Thanks
> BOBBY
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@y...> wrote:
least investment of time and materials, and easy to build to boot.
-- Sue --
(and there are lots of other good choices in that size range)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>Windsprint! It's just about the most boat that you can get for the
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> styled hull in about a 16' length.
least investment of time and materials, and easy to build to boot.
-- Sue --
(and there are lots of other good choices in that size range)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Check out Ruel Parker's "Sharpie Book." It is well written, has pretty
good building instructions and includes plans for several sharpies with
lengths from 14 feet up. The plans are not very detailed, but they
include the offsets and if you have built a boat before they should be
adequate. You can see a sample of his designs at his web site.
Rob M
good building instructions and includes plans for several sharpies with
lengths from 14 feet up. The plans are not very detailed, but they
include the offsets and if you have built a boat before they should be
adequate. You can see a sample of his designs at his web site.
Rob M
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@y...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
> or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
> primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
> leeboards.
>
> Thanks
> BOBBY
>
Sharpie implies a flat bottomed boat with a cat/ketch rig (periauger?).
Short sharpies tend to morph into flat iron skiffs--any of which can be
built of plywood. Oughtred, Bolger, Michalak, Welsford, Culler, and Atkins
are only a few of the noted designers who offer plans for these boats.
There is a fairly complete write up on a small sharpie in John Gardner's
Buiding Classic Small Craft. A lot of choices; tough to pick just one.
John T
Short sharpies tend to morph into flat iron skiffs--any of which can be
built of plywood. Oughtred, Bolger, Michalak, Welsford, Culler, and Atkins
are only a few of the noted designers who offer plans for these boats.
There is a fairly complete write up on a small sharpie in John Gardner's
Buiding Classic Small Craft. A lot of choices; tough to pick just one.
John T
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Subject: Re: [bolger] Daysailer Sharpie Design Selection
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> Subject: [bolger] Daysailer Sharpie Design Selection
>
>>>I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
> or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
> primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
> leeboards.>>
>
> I built and owned a 'Seahorse' skiff, designed by Iain Oughtred, for a
> number of years. It's 15'2" long x about 4'6" beam. It has a
> conventional centreboard.
>
> It can be rigged with a spritsail or a lugsail, and there's even an option
> of jib and mizzen.
>
> It's a fun boat, though pretty heavy for its size if you build it with the
> half-inch bottom that the plans specify as well as the buoyancy
> compartments.
>
> It's great in semi-protected waters.
>
> Please contact me off-list if you'd like to see photos etc.
>
> Bill Samson
>
>
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Just pick one find some plans for a centerboard and add it to the plans you pick.just a little creativity and woodworking ability.
Hey and if all that fails I may have a Bayliner US18 Buccaneer for sale.
Thanks
Jason Nabors
chrisbfeller <chrisbfeller@...> wrote:
Michalak Mayfly or if you want a cabin the Michalak AF3 or Normsboat.
Although they all have leeboards. Michalak's Vector might be a
posability it uses a centerboard. I have sailed it and was quite
impressed.
Chris
Hey and if all that fails I may have a Bayliner US18 Buccaneer for sale.
Thanks
Jason Nabors
chrisbfeller <chrisbfeller@...> wrote:
Michalak Mayfly or if you want a cabin the Michalak AF3 or Normsboat.
Although they all have leeboards. Michalak's Vector might be a
posability it uses a centerboard. I have sailed it and was quite
impressed.
Chris
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@y...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
> or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
> primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
> leeboards.
>
> Thanks
> BOBBY
>
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Michalak Mayfly or if you want a cabin the Michalak AF3 or Normsboat.
Although they all have leeboards. Michalak's Vector might be a
posability it uses a centerboard. I have sailed it and was quite
impressed.
Chris
Although they all have leeboards. Michalak's Vector might be a
posability it uses a centerboard. I have sailed it and was quite
impressed.
Chris
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "txsailor37" <txsailor37@y...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
> styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
> or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
> primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
> leeboards.
>
> Thanks
> BOBBY
>
>I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a SharpieBolger Jinni. But it has leeboards.
>styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
>or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
>primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
>leeboards.
>
>Thanks
>BOBBY
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----- Original Message -----
From: txsailor37
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:31 AM
Subject: [bolger] Daysailer Sharpie Design Selection
>>I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
leeboards.>>
I built and owned a 'Seahorse' skiff, designed by Iain Oughtred, for a number of years. It's 15'2" long x about 4'6" beam. It has a conventional centreboard.
It can be rigged with a spritsail or a lugsail, and there's even an option of jib and mizzen.
It's a fun boat, though pretty heavy for its size if you build it with the half-inch bottom that the plans specify as well as the buoyancy compartments.
It's great in semi-protected waters.
Please contact me off-list if you'd like to see photos etc.
Bill Samson
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I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good design for a Sharpie
styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
leeboards.
Thanks
BOBBY
styled hull in about a 16' length. I would strongly prefer a plywood
or tac and tape design. I would consider a a larger boat I am
primarily interested in trailer sailing. And.... I do not like
leeboards.
Thanks
BOBBY