Re: Rigging Long Micro
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, William King <kingw@b...> wrote:
The topping lift on Lestat comprises of two lines coming down
from the mast head,through two eye straps on the sprit boom and then
forward to two small cleats.The adjustment of the sprit boom when at
rest is done from the cockpit.The other ends of the topping lift are
secured at the mast head,on each side of the main halyard block with
simple eye straps too.
Why two lines? I like symmetry :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,builder of Lestat who did it that way just because
there was nothing noted on the plans and I wanted the boom out of
the way when at anchor and to serve as a ridge pole for a boom tent
over the cockpit,from along the shores of the mighty
St.Lawrence...........
> I do have one question which is not addressed on the sail plan.Where on
> the mast would you mount a block for a topping lift (to hold-upthe
> aft-part of the main boom). I was thinking such a block shouldblock for
> go on the aft-face of the mast, but it would have to be above the
> the mainsail, which ispreferential
> built into the mast. I see that Lestat has one and that seems
> to having the main boomHi Bill,
> lie about the cabin top when the sail is not raised. Any thoughts?
>
> Rest assured. More questions will be coming soon!
>
> Bill, in Ohio
The topping lift on Lestat comprises of two lines coming down
from the mast head,through two eye straps on the sprit boom and then
forward to two small cleats.The adjustment of the sprit boom when at
rest is done from the cockpit.The other ends of the topping lift are
secured at the mast head,on each side of the main halyard block with
simple eye straps too.
Why two lines? I like symmetry :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,builder of Lestat who did it that way just because
there was nothing noted on the plans and I wanted the boom out of
the way when at anchor and to serve as a ridge pole for a boom tent
over the cockpit,from along the shores of the mighty
St.Lawrence...........
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Nels and Joe,
Thanks for your comments (and the link to the photos, Nels) concerning
rigging a Long Micro.
I just returned from a week in sunnier/warmer climes so I'm catching up on
my emails. I have printed
your comments and will digest/think/ponder for a while.
I do have one question which is not addressed on the sail plan. Where on
the mast would you mount a block for a topping lift (to hold-up the
aft-part of the main boom). I was thinking such a block should
go on the aft-face of the mast, but it would have to be above the block for
the mainsail, which is
built into the mast. I see that Lestat has one and that seems preferential
to having the main boom
lie about the cabin top when the sail is not raised. Any thoughts?
Rest assured. More questions will be coming soon!
Bill, in Ohio
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thanks for your comments (and the link to the photos, Nels) concerning
rigging a Long Micro.
I just returned from a week in sunnier/warmer climes so I'm catching up on
my emails. I have printed
your comments and will digest/think/ponder for a while.
I do have one question which is not addressed on the sail plan. Where on
the mast would you mount a block for a topping lift (to hold-up the
aft-part of the main boom). I was thinking such a block should
go on the aft-face of the mast, but it would have to be above the block for
the mainsail, which is
built into the mast. I see that Lestat has one and that seems preferential
to having the main boom
lie about the cabin top when the sail is not raised. Any thoughts?
Rest assured. More questions will be coming soon!
Bill, in Ohio
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@y...> wrote:
previously. I sailed almost all the time with the sheets cleated and
when I was hit with a couple of gusts, I didn't even react to loose
the mainsheet. I had water above the gunwales, but thanks to decking,
coaming and good luck I shipped no water. Talk about adrenaline though
- mercy!
So, the moral as previously mentioned by others: keep the sheet in
your hand or at least not wrapped around you ankle or sat upon and
remember what to do with it when you look out the cabin window and see
nothing but green water.
Paul
> Yes, but note that I said to keep the main sheet in hand. I had thatHi Joe,
> lesson enforced when I took a gust that knocked her down to the
> gunwale. She took on a cup of green water then popped right up. 200
> pounds of lead did its thing, even with two of us sprawled on the lee
> side. Recently sold to Rosalie in Seattle.
> In the recent Oldshoe article in MAIB the photo from above forward is
> mine. I'll try to post some photos. Will advise when I get it right.
>
>That reminds me of a story Bernie Wolfard told about doing the sameI had a similar incident with my Chebacco as recounted here
>thing with his Micro. He had the mainsheet tied off when a gust hit
>and it looked like they were going over. Then the gust passed, the
>Micro came back up on her feet so fast it almost threw his guests out
>the other side. It was their first sail and they thought he did it on
>purpose to scare them but it had scared him alot worse and I believe
>he never let on it was a mistake in judgement on the captains part:-)
previously. I sailed almost all the time with the sheets cleated and
when I was hit with a couple of gusts, I didn't even react to loose
the mainsheet. I had water above the gunwales, but thanks to decking,
coaming and good luck I shipped no water. Talk about adrenaline though
- mercy!
So, the moral as previously mentioned by others: keep the sheet in
your hand or at least not wrapped around you ankle or sat upon and
remember what to do with it when you look out the cabin window and see
nothing but green water.
Paul
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@y...> wrote:
That reminds me of a story Bernie Wolfard told about doing the same
thing with his Micro. He had the mainsheet tied off when a gust hit
and it looked like they were going over. Then the gust passed, the
Micro came back up on her feet so fast it almost threw his guests out
the other side. It was their first sail and they thought he did it on
purpose to scare them but it had scared him alot worse and I believe
he never let on it was a mistake in judgement on the captains part:-)
Thanks for the photos. I really love the fact that there is no motor
being used. I also like the idea of a removeable birdhouse top like
mentioned in the recent MAIB article. Although in San Diego that would
not be a concern.
I was also looking at the MAIB Birdwatcher article and there are six
photos with it showing the crew all inside and Bolger shares his
thoughts on the advantages of this type of house on a cold day.
Nels
> Yes, but note that I said to keep the main sheet in hand. I had thatHi Joe,
> lesson enforced when I took a gust that knocked her down to the
> gunwale. She took on a cup of green water then popped right up. 200
> pounds of lead did its thing, even with two of us sprawled on the lee
> side. Recently sold to Rosalie in Seattle.
> In the recent Oldshoe article in MAIB the photo from above forward is
> mine. I'll try to post some photos. Will advise when I get it right.
>
That reminds me of a story Bernie Wolfard told about doing the same
thing with his Micro. He had the mainsheet tied off when a gust hit
and it looked like they were going over. Then the gust passed, the
Micro came back up on her feet so fast it almost threw his guests out
the other side. It was their first sail and they thought he did it on
purpose to scare them but it had scared him alot worse and I believe
he never let on it was a mistake in judgement on the captains part:-)
Thanks for the photos. I really love the fact that there is no motor
being used. I also like the idea of a removeable birdhouse top like
mentioned in the recent MAIB article. Although in San Diego that would
not be a concern.
I was also looking at the MAIB Birdwatcher article and there are six
photos with it showing the crew all inside and Bolger shares his
thoughts on the advantages of this type of house on a cold day.
Nels
> > Both were simple and effective.Yes, but note that I said to keep the main sheet in hand. I had that
>
> Thanks for that confirmation Joe,
>
> I assume it worked OK?
>
> Your Oldshoe is a beauty to my eye.
>
> Nels
> >
>
lesson enforced when I took a gust that knocked her down to the
gunwale. She took on a cup of green water then popped right up. 200
pounds of lead did its thing, even with two of us sprawled on the lee
side. Recently sold to Rosalie in Seattle.
In the recent Oldshoe article in MAIB the photo from above forward is
mine. I'll try to post some photos. Will advise when I get it right.
> > Both were simple and effective.Yes, but note that I said to keep the main sheet in hand. I had that
>
> Thanks for that confirmation Joe,
>
> I assume it worked OK?
>
> Your Oldshoe is a beauty to my eye.
>
> Nels
> >
>
lesson enforced when I took a gust that knocked her down to the
gunwale. She took on a cup of green water then popped right up. 200
pounds of lead did its thing, even with two of us sprawled on the lee
side. Recently sold to Rosalie in Seattle.
In the recent Oldshoe article in MAIB the photo from above forward is
mine. I'll try to post some photos. Will advise when I get it right.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@y...>
wrote:
I assume it worked OK?
Your Oldshoe is a beauty to my eye.
Nels
wrote:
> My Oldshoe mainsheet was rigged similar to above.gunwale.
> A stopper knot through the port side aft just below the gunwale.
> Lashing block on the end of the boom.
> Another block lashed slightly loose, to swivel, at the starboard
> Turning block on deck.Thanks for that confirmation Joe,
> Clam cleat near at hand.
> Sheet in hand.
>
> The mizzen was simpler:
> Lashed to the end of the boom, through a block lashed to the end of
> the boomkin, through a fairlead hole in transom, to a clam cleat on
> deck next to the main.
>
> Both were simple and effective.
I assume it worked OK?
Your Oldshoe is a beauty to my eye.
Nels
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
A stopper knot through the port side aft just below the gunwale.
Lashing block on the end of the boom.
Another block lashed slightly loose, to swivel, at the starboard gunwale.
Turning block on deck.
Clam cleat near at hand.
Sheet in hand.
The mizzen was simpler:
Lashed to the end of the boom, through a block lashed to the end of
the boomkin, through a fairlead hole in transom, to a clam cleat on
deck next to the main.
Both were simple and effective.
>My Oldshoe mainsheet was rigged similar to above.
> As you know the instructions for Long Micro has the mainsheet with
> the standing end located through a pad eye on the port gunwale,
> running though a block and sling or bail near the end of the boom
> down through a swivel deck plate block - which I think is located on
> the starboard quarter deck - and to a "cleat or pin placed to taste"
> (See plan sheet #1)
>
> Nels
A stopper knot through the port side aft just below the gunwale.
Lashing block on the end of the boom.
Another block lashed slightly loose, to swivel, at the starboard gunwale.
Turning block on deck.
Clam cleat near at hand.
Sheet in hand.
The mizzen was simpler:
Lashed to the end of the boom, through a block lashed to the end of
the boomkin, through a fairlead hole in transom, to a clam cleat on
deck next to the main.
Both were simple and effective.
Hi Bill,
Referring to LESTAT file photos:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/lst
Photo #23 shows where the main halyard and snotter are snubbed down
to cleats on either side of the companionway. Turning blocks for
these on Micro are located on the mast step.( Photo #27). On Long
Micro cheek blocks are located on each side of the tabernacle.
Peter has a cleat on each side of the rudder post one for the
mainsheet and the other for the mizzen sheet. See photo #38
Peter runs the mainsheet through a block located on the bronze horse
across the stern which is restricted with wooden stoppers on each
side. Photo #31 shows this. As well, it looks like he tied off the
stern anchor to the same cleat. Using a horse to locate the
mainsheet was his own idea.
I believe Dan used cam cleats instead of the ones shown, but in more
or less the same position. A couple extra cam cleats on the gunwales
whould not be a bad idea too, as one can always use them to snub
down the fenders or mooring/anchor lines. They are the greatest
invention since the dumb sheave:-)
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/cleats/rl261/index.htm
As you know the instructions for Long Micro has the mainsheet with
the standing end located through a pad eye on the port gunwale,
running though a block and sling or bail near the end of the boom
down through a swivel deck plate block - which I think is located on
the starboard quarter deck - and to a "cleat or pin placed to taste"
(See plan sheet #1)
It seems to me that the sprit boom, which is self-vanging, and more
balanced than a "normal" boom - results in more flexibility in
locating the mainsheet. Also the snotter arrangement takes a lot of
the forces usually transferred to the mainsheet.
Reviewing rig #40 in "103 Small Boat Rigs" I believe reinforces why
Mr. Bolger really likes this sail plan. The final sentence in that
write-up maybe points to the advantage of locating the mainsheet as
to plan, rather than from a horse located across the stern. Less
chance of getting your hat knocked off by the mainsheet sweeping the
cockpit when tacking:-)
What at first seems to be a rather crude sailing rig, grows on a
peson the more one realizes it's capabilities for low effort yet
relaxed efficient performance.
Nels
Referring to LESTAT file photos:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/lst
Photo #23 shows where the main halyard and snotter are snubbed down
to cleats on either side of the companionway. Turning blocks for
these on Micro are located on the mast step.( Photo #27). On Long
Micro cheek blocks are located on each side of the tabernacle.
Peter has a cleat on each side of the rudder post one for the
mainsheet and the other for the mizzen sheet. See photo #38
Peter runs the mainsheet through a block located on the bronze horse
across the stern which is restricted with wooden stoppers on each
side. Photo #31 shows this. As well, it looks like he tied off the
stern anchor to the same cleat. Using a horse to locate the
mainsheet was his own idea.
I believe Dan used cam cleats instead of the ones shown, but in more
or less the same position. A couple extra cam cleats on the gunwales
whould not be a bad idea too, as one can always use them to snub
down the fenders or mooring/anchor lines. They are the greatest
invention since the dumb sheave:-)
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/cleats/rl261/index.htm
As you know the instructions for Long Micro has the mainsheet with
the standing end located through a pad eye on the port gunwale,
running though a block and sling or bail near the end of the boom
down through a swivel deck plate block - which I think is located on
the starboard quarter deck - and to a "cleat or pin placed to taste"
(See plan sheet #1)
It seems to me that the sprit boom, which is self-vanging, and more
balanced than a "normal" boom - results in more flexibility in
locating the mainsheet. Also the snotter arrangement takes a lot of
the forces usually transferred to the mainsheet.
Reviewing rig #40 in "103 Small Boat Rigs" I believe reinforces why
Mr. Bolger really likes this sail plan. The final sentence in that
write-up maybe points to the advantage of locating the mainsheet as
to plan, rather than from a horse located across the stern. Less
chance of getting your hat knocked off by the mainsheet sweeping the
cockpit when tacking:-)
What at first seems to be a rather crude sailing rig, grows on a
peson the more one realizes it's capabilities for low effort yet
relaxed efficient performance.
Nels