Re: More Oldshoe Photos

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@y...> wrote:
>
> In Bolger 6 FILES I have posted three edited photos in larger size
per
> request.

Thank you Joe! The more I look at your pictures,the more I become
tempted to build an Old Shoe to tow behind Windermere or,if I build a
strong enough crane,hoist her up on the house top :-)
Beautiful pics!

Sincerely,

Peter Lenihan
The Question:
. . .Also, does anyone have
> any news about the
> Birdwatcher video that PCB&F mentioned putting
> together last year?
Ans: John Mann wrote Mr. Bolger re that and was told
that there hasn't been an idle moment to edit the raw
footage. Someday we hope . . . Eric

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Oops, Nels, forgot some folks live in a less temperate climate.
I sold it because I didn't use it. Building is my main enthusiasm.
There are now 10 boats in my backyard boatyard. The ones I use are
canoes and kayaks mostly. There are a few nice little lakes nearby and
I don't have the ambition or courage to brave the open ocean in nearby
Monterey Bay. The boat for that is more than I want to attempt, and I
don't have the sailing skills. I'm content with my choice.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think this design has been passed over in
> favor
> > of big brother Micro. I Have a feeling that the kind of use most
> > Micros actually get would be better served by Oldshoe, mostly day
> > sails and occasional camping.
> >
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Great view of how the mainsheet is set up and also how much head
> room there is under the sprit boom.
>
> I would agree with you that this design deserves more notice and the
> photos point out why. Also it would be quite a bit easier to tow and
> launch for day-sailing. Makes me wonder why a guy would ever want to
> sell it;-)
>
> Micro's cabin is kind of handy in the less temperate climes and a
> great have if there are bugs. Stays nice and clean inside when
> closed up as well.
>
> Photos don't really do justice to the amount of space in either boat
> and this is likely true for many Bolger designs. For example,
> viewing Bjorn Harbo's video of his WBJ Schooner was a real eye
> opener as to how much space and comfort there is in that design.
>
> Nels
>
Thanks John!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "saillips" <saillips@c...> wrote:
>David,

> see message 47592,

Regards,

John
>
> > ...viewing Bjorn Harbo's video of his WBJ Schooner was a real eye
> > opener as to how much space and comfort there is in that design.
> >
> > Nels
>
> I've looked at the pictures of Bjorn's WBJ Schooner many times, one I
> keep going back to as I wonder how much "more" boat it is compared to
> a Birdwatcher in terms of time, materials,accomodations, and towing.
> Where can I find this video? Also, does anyone have any news about the
> Birdwatcher video that PCB&F mentioned putting together last year?
> Thanks, David
>
> 17 years... 1/4 ACX,

impressive
> ...viewing Bjorn Harbo's video of his WBJ Schooner was a real eye
> opener as to how much space and comfort there is in that design.
>
> Nels

I've looked at the pictures of Bjorn's WBJ Schooner many times, one I
keep going back to as I wonder how much "more" boat it is compared to
a Birdwatcher in terms of time, materials,accomodations, and towing.
Where can I find this video? Also, does anyone have any news about the
Birdwatcher video that PCB&F mentioned putting together last year?
Thanks, David
Modest as Oldshoe is in size, it's a masterpiece of design. Not really
a copy of anything, unless perhaps it's a ply adaptation of schooner's
yawl boat. How did PCB ever think it up?

The boat in the pictures looks great, and I'm surprised to hear how
old she is. She looks fresh from the shop.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Tribulato" <scsbmsjoe@y...>
wrote:
>
> In Bolger 6 FILES I have posted three edited photos in larger size
per
> request. This boat was built in 1988. After 17 years, much of it
> outdoors under a tarp, it needed and got a thorough sanding and
fresh
> paint. looks just like new and is still sound. Built with 1/4 ACX,
> epoxy, primer. and gloss enamel. Built to plans but with a few
mods.
> Knees under the mast fid stiffen the top corners of the bow. When
> building I twiisted the bow and found it flexed too much to suite
me.
> After launch the top port corner of the transom developed a crack
from
> my struggle to climb aboard so I put a knee there too. The
floorboards
> are in two sections and can be raised to a cleat around the edge of
> the seats to make a queen size berth flat. If anyone is building an
> Oldshoe I would be happy to discuss their project--after they have
> done their homework. I think this design has been passed over in
favor
> of big brother Micro. I Have a feeling that the kind of use most
> Micros actually get would be better served by Oldshoe, mostly day
> sails and occasional camping.
>

Hi Joe,

Great view of how the mainsheet is set up and also how much head
room there is under the sprit boom.

I would agree with you that this design deserves more notice and the
photos point out why. Also it would be quite a bit easier to tow and
launch for day-sailing. Makes me wonder why a guy would ever want to
sell it;-)

Micro's cabin is kind of handy in the less temperate climes and a
great have if there are bugs. Stays nice and clean inside when
closed up as well.

Photos don't really do justice to the amount of space in either boat
and this is likely true for many Bolger designs. For example,
viewing Bjorn Harbo's video of his WBJ Schooner was a real eye
opener as to how much space and comfort there is in that design.

Nels
In Bolger 6 FILES I have posted three edited photos in larger size per
request. This boat was built in 1988. After 17 years, much of it
outdoors under a tarp, it needed and got a thorough sanding and fresh
paint. looks just like new and is still sound. Built with 1/4 ACX,
epoxy, primer. and gloss enamel. Built to plans but with a few mods.
Knees under the mast fid stiffen the top corners of the bow. When
building I twiisted the bow and found it flexed too much to suite me.
After launch the top port corner of the transom developed a crack from
my struggle to climb aboard so I put a knee there too. The floorboards
are in two sections and can be raised to a cleat around the edge of
the seats to make a queen size berth flat. If anyone is building an
Oldshoe I would be happy to discuss their project--after they have
done their homework. I think this design has been passed over in favor
of big brother Micro. I Have a feeling that the kind of use most
Micros actually get would be better served by Oldshoe, mostly day
sails and occasional camping.