Re: Stayless Rig
Charles,
I hate to nit-pick, and these sail shapes don't fit into our western
"norm"; but I would call these rigs ketches as 1) the larger sail is
forward and 2) the larger "mast" (short as they are) is also forward.
They are, however, interesting rigs and are said to work well downwind
in a steady "monsoon" environment. I have not read too much good about
their windward qualities. It is hard to tell in such a small photo,
but the first dhoni seems to be motor-sailing and a prop wash seems to
be visible.
Lewis
I hate to nit-pick, and these sail shapes don't fit into our western
"norm"; but I would call these rigs ketches as 1) the larger sail is
forward and 2) the larger "mast" (short as they are) is also forward.
They are, however, interesting rigs and are said to work well downwind
in a steady "monsoon" environment. I have not read too much good about
their windward qualities. It is hard to tell in such a small photo,
but the first dhoni seems to be motor-sailing and a prop wash seems to
be visible.
Lewis
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "zavalacat" <zavala@s...> wrote:
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>
>
> If interested, you can look around on this site and
> look at pictures of two masted dhoni from the Maldives.
> I think they qualify as schooners. I wonder if Bolger
> ever looked at an adaptation of the dhoni for more
> pedestrian uses.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ey9w3
>
> Charles Rouse
> >
If interested, you can look around on this site and
look at pictures of two masted dhoni from the Maldives.
I think they qualify as schooners. I wonder if Bolger
ever looked at an adaptation of the dhoni for more
pedestrian uses.
http://tinyurl.com/ey9w3
Charles Rouse
look at pictures of two masted dhoni from the Maldives.
I think they qualify as schooners. I wonder if Bolger
ever looked at an adaptation of the dhoni for more
pedestrian uses.
http://tinyurl.com/ey9w3
Charles Rouse
>it
> My two cents, here...
>
> Without a boom both sails would be even worse on the 'bad tack'
> because
> the foot would tend to wrap around the mast. I have never dipped a
> lug
> or a lateen, but since the lateen requires less downhaul pressure,
> might be easier to dip.
My two cents, here...
Without a boom both sails would be even worse on the 'bad tack'
because
the foot would tend to wrap around the mast. I have never dipped a
lug
or a lateen, but since the lateen requires less downhaul pressure, it
might be easier to dip.
The lateen is so common that I have a little less appreciation of it
than perhaps I should. The balanced lug, just the reverse. I wonder
if it should be exactly the opposite, since one is universal, it
might just be the easier to sail, easier to find, option.
Then again, the balanced lug can be readily converted to a spritsail
if you are not happy with it.
Using carbon fiber for such a simple rig would give you almost no
performance benifit at great effort and cost.
The charm of traditional rigs is that they are traditional.
As for the schooner rig, my own asthetics would demand that I not use
the lateen, not because it is inferior, but because it is, to me,
weird looking. Acombination of balanced lug rigs or batwings would
certainly look better to me.
Jim
Without a boom both sails would be even worse on the 'bad tack'
because
the foot would tend to wrap around the mast. I have never dipped a
lug
or a lateen, but since the lateen requires less downhaul pressure, it
might be easier to dip.
The lateen is so common that I have a little less appreciation of it
than perhaps I should. The balanced lug, just the reverse. I wonder
if it should be exactly the opposite, since one is universal, it
might just be the easier to sail, easier to find, option.
Then again, the balanced lug can be readily converted to a spritsail
if you are not happy with it.
Using carbon fiber for such a simple rig would give you almost no
performance benifit at great effort and cost.
The charm of traditional rigs is that they are traditional.
As for the schooner rig, my own asthetics would demand that I not use
the lateen, not because it is inferior, but because it is, to me,
weird looking. Acombination of balanced lug rigs or batwings would
certainly look better to me.
Jim
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Michael Collins <boats@A...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am in need of a stayless two mast rig. I have heard praises of
the
> Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise.
Seems
to
> me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and well
> designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there
been
> modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
>
> Michael Collins
>
One of the major reasons to go to either a lateen or lug sail is that they
do not require or benefit from high tech materials or complex, expensive
rigging. With either rig, mast bend does not affect the set of the sail and
these rigs do not require that the mast be stayed. A lug rig will perform
better if the leading edge of the sail can be kept tight and this is usually
accomplished with a down haul on the boom The boom must be stiff enough so
that it doesn't bend ubder the force exerted by the downhaul, or the sail
will become flat and performance will suffer. Lateen rigs don't need a
downhaul, but have longer spars to contend with.
No doubt that well engineered and constructed carbon fiber spars are
lighter and stiffer than wood. My problem is that I wouldn't know where to
bigin engineering a cf spar and I have no experience working with this
material. For the size sails I mess with, the types of rig I prefer, and
the type of sailing I do, I do not perceive that the benefits of CF justify
the cost, risk of failure, or difficulty of repair.
Check www.campionboats.co.uk for an example of a high performance lug rig.
For what it's worth, I recently built a Michalak Toon 19 and specified a cat
ketch with a balanced lug main and a sprit boomed leg of mutton mizzen. I'm
still working up and sorting out things, but so far I'm extremely pleased
with this rig.
John T
do not require or benefit from high tech materials or complex, expensive
rigging. With either rig, mast bend does not affect the set of the sail and
these rigs do not require that the mast be stayed. A lug rig will perform
better if the leading edge of the sail can be kept tight and this is usually
accomplished with a down haul on the boom The boom must be stiff enough so
that it doesn't bend ubder the force exerted by the downhaul, or the sail
will become flat and performance will suffer. Lateen rigs don't need a
downhaul, but have longer spars to contend with.
No doubt that well engineered and constructed carbon fiber spars are
lighter and stiffer than wood. My problem is that I wouldn't know where to
bigin engineering a cf spar and I have no experience working with this
material. For the size sails I mess with, the types of rig I prefer, and
the type of sailing I do, I do not perceive that the benefits of CF justify
the cost, risk of failure, or difficulty of repair.
Check www.campionboats.co.uk for an example of a high performance lug rig.
For what it's worth, I recently built a Michalak Toon 19 and specified a cat
ketch with a balanced lug main and a sprit boomed leg of mutton mizzen. I'm
still working up and sorting out things, but so far I'm extremely pleased
with this rig.
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Collins" <boats@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:48 PM
Subject: [bolger] Stayless Rig
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> I am in need of a stayless two mast rig. I have heard praises of the
> Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise. Seems to
> me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and well
> designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
> modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
>
> Michael Collins
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On my Sunfish, the "good tack" is the one where the sail lays against the
mast. Go figure...
I like the lateen rig very much, but it has a few drawbacks that should be
mentioned. The main one is that it requires very long and unweildy spars
once you get to a an appreciable sail area. Michalak has overcome this in at
least one design by creating a folding spar, but I think it would difficult
to manage on the water. The sail shape also does not reef very well.
mast. Go figure...
I like the lateen rig very much, but it has a few drawbacks that should be
mentioned. The main one is that it requires very long and unweildy spars
once you get to a an appreciable sail area. Michalak has overcome this in at
least one design by creating a folding spar, but I think it would difficult
to manage on the water. The sail shape also does not reef very well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Stayless Rig
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Michael Collins <boats@A...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I am in need of a stayless two mast rig. I have heard praises of
> the
> > Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise. Seems
> to
> > me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and well
> > designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
> > modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
> >
> > Michael Collins
> >
> An in depth study of Bolger's "103 Small Boat Rigs" would prove
> invaluable in my opinion. There is no example of a two masted Lateener
> shown. The second sail used is a leg-o'mutton.
>
> There have been no modern efforts to improve the Lateen rig or even
> the lug much, as both have a "good" tack and "bad" tack, unless dipped
> around the mast.
>
> Nels
>
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The main one is that it requires very long and unweildy spars
works great for building, transporting and sailing. I'm not sure what you
were referring to by difficult to manage on the water. The dink "Tween"
that I built could be considered to be overcanvased and as such the sail
in general is not great in winds over 15 - 20 kts or so, but I'm not much
of a fan of sailing a dink in high winds.
The sail stays on the spar and for setup just requres unfolding,
tightening a couple wing nuts and attached to the mast. A bunch easier to
set up than the gaff on the Chebacco ( but a lot smaller as well.)
For a picture you can check out Craig's page
http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/boats.html#roll
Ed
> once you get to a an appreciable sail area. Michalak has overcome this inI have built the Michalak "Folding Spar" on my sailing dink and n fact it
> at
> least one design by creating a folding spar, but I think it would
> difficult
> to manage on the water.
works great for building, transporting and sailing. I'm not sure what you
were referring to by difficult to manage on the water. The dink "Tween"
that I built could be considered to be overcanvased and as such the sail
in general is not great in winds over 15 - 20 kts or so, but I'm not much
of a fan of sailing a dink in high winds.
The sail stays on the spar and for setup just requres unfolding,
tightening a couple wing nuts and attached to the mast. A bunch easier to
set up than the gaff on the Chebacco ( but a lot smaller as well.)
For a picture you can check out Craig's page
http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/boats.html#roll
Ed
> me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and wellThere is a lot unsaid in your question, with the word 'improve'.
> designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
> modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
> Michael Collins
If the qualities you want 'improved' are simplicity, low stress, cost,
safety, ease of repair, etc.., then rather it is the modern rigs that
need to be improvement!
Also, carbon-fiber yards *can* be engineered to a degree and made
lighter than wood yards [until just before they break] & [easier
said than done.].
Wood is a form of carbon fiber too, and it is easier to repair and
cheaper to replace. Lighter weight in wood can be achieved by
selection of species, birdmouthing, and composite methods,
including the use of high tensile sheathing with epoxy/fiberglass or
epoxy/carbon fiber!
PB&F have designed some interesting lightweight yards using thin
plywood with a tapered diamond shape and interior plywood webs.
This achieves low weight to strength ratios and optimized
aerodynamics, which I think is your goal.
See their designs Yonder and Fiji, (if I recall correctly.)
These are also examples of the Bolger Chinese Gaff rig, a hybrid
between the junk sail (a fully-battened balanced lug) and
the traditional gaff. It certainly is a modern effort to
'improve' the Lug rig, as you have asked.
I too recommend the Bolger book _103 Sailing Rigs_.
Thanks peter, mike, nels, everyone for your replies.
What about reefing a lateen rig. Unless someone has come up with
something new, isn't this a problem? What are the options?
Michael
What about reefing a lateen rig. Unless someone has come up with
something new, isn't this a problem? What are the options?
Michael
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Michael Collins <boats@A...> wrote:
invaluable in my opinion. There is no example of a two masted Lateener
shown. The second sail used is a leg-o'mutton.
There have been no modern efforts to improve the Lateen rig or even
the lug much, as both have a "good" tack and "bad" tack, unless dipped
around the mast.
Nels
>the
>
>
> I am in need of a stayless two mast rig. I have heard praises of
> Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise. Seemsto
> me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and wellAn in depth study of Bolger's "103 Small Boat Rigs" would prove
> designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
> modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
>
> Michael Collins
>
invaluable in my opinion. There is no example of a two masted Lateener
shown. The second sail used is a leg-o'mutton.
There have been no modern efforts to improve the Lateen rig or even
the lug much, as both have a "good" tack and "bad" tack, unless dipped
around the mast.
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Michael Collins <boats@A...> wrote:
much difference between the two. In both cases you can play with the
sails' aspect ratios. A higher aspect ratio sail might deliver better
windard ability at the expense of a higher center of effort and weight
of the yard up high. Both styles can be with or without boom. I'd pick
whichever you find more personally appealing and then play with the
design within that style based on your requirements.
Mike
>A lateen rig is a sort of lug rig. Ultimately I don't think there is
> I am in need of a stayless two mast rig. I have heard praises of the
> Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise. Seems to
> me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and well
> designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
> modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
>
> Michael Collins
>
much difference between the two. In both cases you can play with the
sails' aspect ratios. A higher aspect ratio sail might deliver better
windard ability at the expense of a higher center of effort and weight
of the yard up high. Both styles can be with or without boom. I'd pick
whichever you find more personally appealing and then play with the
design within that style based on your requirements.
Mike
> I am in need of a stayless two mast rig. I have heard praises of theI've thought from time to time that a lateen schooner with a boomed
> Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise. Seems to
> me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and well
> designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
> modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
main and boomless fore could be a dandy rig. With a cat-ketch, I'd put
booms on both.
There are lots of variations of the lateen. The version used on the
Sunfish, etc, is very docile since the geometry keeps the boom from
rising. The boomless version that PCB put on the Prirate Racer is very
simple, but like all boomless sails the sheet lead is critical. To
some extent you can vary the hoist and the .... what do you call that
line that controls the heel of the yard ... instead.
Sind the yard is as long as a mast would be, and is unstayed, it would
benefit a lot from being carbon.
Peter
I am in need of a stayless two mast rig. I have heard praises of the
Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise. Seems to
me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and well
designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
Michael Collins
Lug rig, but the Lateen rig seems to me to hold more promise. Seems to
me the lateen rig could benifit from carbon-fiber yards and well
designed foils in the sail. What's your opinions'? Have there been
modern efforts to improve the Lug or Lateen rig?
Michael Collins
>I really want it on the starboard and port sides of the bow. The wayWell, on wooden vessels were painted on fancywork called "trailboards".
>the old HMRS ships were done. But not sure if that is out of line.
Name, scrolls, carving, etc.
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With a boat like a micro, you can place the name in whatever
unconventional place you want.
I did my lettering, by using 'work art' in Microsft Word, and
transfering the lines to the hull using carbon paper, filling in with
small paint brush.
Is that a balanced lug rig? I definitely see two yards, where a
standard Micro has one. Your mast is untapered also.
unconventional place you want.
I did my lettering, by using 'work art' in Microsft Word, and
transfering the lines to the hull using carbon paper, filling in with
small paint brush.
Is that a balanced lug rig? I definitely see two yards, where a
standard Micro has one. Your mast is untapered also.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "aaronthekid" <aaronthekid@y...> wrote:
You should pipe in more often as your exploits are always
entertaining:-)
Duckworks sells graphic kits for boats:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/media/graphics/index.htm
Another option is to have the boat name on a separate plate (piece of
wood) that you can attached with a couple of screws. That way you can
have a sign painter make it up without taking the whole boat in:-) And
can try it on different locations. Also easy to change the name.
The stern quarters seem most often used. If on the transom it is usual
to also have your home port included.
You can cut the plate with a fancy shape and mount it with brass
screws.
Another option is to make your own template if you have a banner
program on your computer and cut out the letters with a razor blade,
taping the banner onto the boat and painting over it.
Someone who does free-hand lettering might be my first choice though.
Nels
>Hi Aaron,
> First I'ld like to thank the admin and regulars to this board for
> doing such a good job. I don't pipe in too much, but read here quite
> a bit.
>
You should pipe in more often as your exploits are always
entertaining:-)
Duckworks sells graphic kits for boats:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/media/graphics/index.htm
Another option is to have the boat name on a separate plate (piece of
wood) that you can attached with a couple of screws. That way you can
have a sign painter make it up without taking the whole boat in:-) And
can try it on different locations. Also easy to change the name.
The stern quarters seem most often used. If on the transom it is usual
to also have your home port included.
You can cut the plate with a fancy shape and mount it with brass
screws.
Another option is to make your own template if you have a banner
program on your computer and cut out the letters with a razor blade,
taping the banner onto the boat and painting over it.
Someone who does free-hand lettering might be my first choice though.
Nels
Aaron--Nice pictures; the boat looks good and the skipper looks happy!
If you need to register your boat with the state authorities (requirements
vary by state), registration numbers have to go in the front of the boat.
Therfore, you either need to locate the name in the front where it can
co-exist with registration numbers or locate the name somewhere else. The
transom is traditional, but on double enders or on boats whith outboard
motor cut outs, the name is often placed on the aft quarters.
I have had good luck with cut vinyl letters available at instant sign shops.
These shops offer a variety of fonts and the letters come out properly
spaced. Cost is nominal and if you mess up (say misspell a name or get the
name on crooked) it is fairly easy and inexpensive to fix. Vinyl letters
may not be suitable for a yacht finished gold-plater, but for my home made,
plywood boats, they work fine.
JohnT
If you need to register your boat with the state authorities (requirements
vary by state), registration numbers have to go in the front of the boat.
Therfore, you either need to locate the name in the front where it can
co-exist with registration numbers or locate the name somewhere else. The
transom is traditional, but on double enders or on boats whith outboard
motor cut outs, the name is often placed on the aft quarters.
I have had good luck with cut vinyl letters available at instant sign shops.
These shops offer a variety of fonts and the letters come out properly
spaced. Cost is nominal and if you mess up (say misspell a name or get the
name on crooked) it is fairly easy and inexpensive to fix. Vinyl letters
may not be suitable for a yacht finished gold-plater, but for my home made,
plywood boats, they work fine.
JohnT
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From: "aaronthekid" <aaronthekid@...>
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: [bolger] Paint Job Ethics on Bolger Boats...
> First I'ld like to thank the admin and regulars to this board for
> doing such a good job. I don't pipe in too much, but read here quite
> a bit.
>
> I've got a 16' Micro "The Goomah" in San Marcos TX and sail her
> regularly on Canyon Lake.
> Photo's Here....
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/aaronthekid/100_0301.jpg
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/aaronthekid/CindyMarie.jpg
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> I've been wanting to put the name on her for two years now, and
> finally have found a painter to do it. I'm not going to get too
> fancy, mabey a little bit hipper font, but want paintjob on the Name
> to be as original as the boat its self.
>
> My question is this.....What are the rules on where the name goes on a
> boat? IS there a certain sized boat that demands the name goes on the
> transom?
>
> I really want it on the starboard and port sides of the bow. The way
> the old HMRS ships were done. But not sure if that is out of line.
>
> ( hey I wanted to paint a big shark mouth on the bow for a while,
> thank god some of y'all talked me out of it LOL )
>
> Any ways, I'm gonna get it done this spring and was looking for some
> advice. Thanks again to everyone.
>
> Sincerly,
> A2
>
> PS....After sailing the Micro for over a year now I am completly happy
> with her....although I do have one complaint.
> It takes forever to step the mast and get her unloaded at the ramp.
> Mainly because everyone and their brother HAS to come up and ask me a
> million questions about the boat. What should take me about 15
> minutes, turns into an hour ordeal with me explaining who Phil Bolger
> is, how it really does sail and fast, etc, etc.
> Atleast at the ramp they ask questions. At the Beer/Bait Store they
> just sort of stare...LOL
>
> I love my Micro, and will sail her till she can't go no more.
>
>
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First I'ld like to thank the admin and regulars to this board for
doing such a good job. I don't pipe in too much, but read here quite
a bit.
I've got a 16' Micro "The Goomah" in San Marcos TX and sail her
regularly on Canyon Lake.
Photo's Here....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/aaronthekid/100_0301.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/aaronthekid/CindyMarie.jpg
I've been wanting to put the name on her for two years now, and
finally have found a painter to do it. I'm not going to get too
fancy, mabey a little bit hipper font, but want paintjob on the Name
to be as original as the boat its self.
My question is this.....What are the rules on where the name goes on a
boat? IS there a certain sized boat that demands the name goes on the
transom?
I really want it on the starboard and port sides of the bow. The way
the old HMRS ships were done. But not sure if that is out of line.
( hey I wanted to paint a big shark mouth on the bow for a while,
thank god some of y'all talked me out of it LOL )
Any ways, I'm gonna get it done this spring and was looking for some
advice. Thanks again to everyone.
Sincerly,
A2
PS....After sailing the Micro for over a year now I am completly happy
with her....although I do have one complaint.
It takes forever to step the mast and get her unloaded at the ramp.
Mainly because everyone and their brother HAS to come up and ask me a
million questions about the boat. What should take me about 15
minutes, turns into an hour ordeal with me explaining who Phil Bolger
is, how it really does sail and fast, etc, etc.
Atleast at the ramp they ask questions. At the Beer/Bait Store they
just sort of stare...LOL
I love my Micro, and will sail her till she can't go no more.
doing such a good job. I don't pipe in too much, but read here quite
a bit.
I've got a 16' Micro "The Goomah" in San Marcos TX and sail her
regularly on Canyon Lake.
Photo's Here....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/aaronthekid/100_0301.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/aaronthekid/CindyMarie.jpg
I've been wanting to put the name on her for two years now, and
finally have found a painter to do it. I'm not going to get too
fancy, mabey a little bit hipper font, but want paintjob on the Name
to be as original as the boat its self.
My question is this.....What are the rules on where the name goes on a
boat? IS there a certain sized boat that demands the name goes on the
transom?
I really want it on the starboard and port sides of the bow. The way
the old HMRS ships were done. But not sure if that is out of line.
( hey I wanted to paint a big shark mouth on the bow for a while,
thank god some of y'all talked me out of it LOL )
Any ways, I'm gonna get it done this spring and was looking for some
advice. Thanks again to everyone.
Sincerly,
A2
PS....After sailing the Micro for over a year now I am completly happy
with her....although I do have one complaint.
It takes forever to step the mast and get her unloaded at the ramp.
Mainly because everyone and their brother HAS to come up and ask me a
million questions about the boat. What should take me about 15
minutes, turns into an hour ordeal with me explaining who Phil Bolger
is, how it really does sail and fast, etc, etc.
Atleast at the ramp they ask questions. At the Beer/Bait Store they
just sort of stare...LOL
I love my Micro, and will sail her till she can't go no more.