Re: [bolger] Re: Punt Gun Photo
I was taught, when I was becoming a Hunter Safety Instructor, that the modus operendi was to scull out quietly to the resting flock. Once you were in position you spook the flock so that as they rise more ducks present themselves to the cone of pellets.
Shooting them on the water as they sit reaquires a Maxim silencer. See the quite enjoyable, "Me, The Boy and the Cat" which is the story of a man and his son and a cat and a cat BOAT sailing south from New Bedford ahead of winter.
Phil Smith
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:39:21 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Punt Gun Photo
night. Shoot at the birds on the water.
Craig O'Donnell
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Shooting them on the water as they sit reaquires a Maxim silencer. See the quite enjoyable, "Me, The Boy and the Cat" which is the story of a man and his son and a cat and a cat BOAT sailing south from New Bedford ahead of winter.
Phil Smith
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:39:21 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Punt Gun Photo
>>Scull out the rear or use a very short paddle. Paddle quietly. Do it at
>><http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpg>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpg
>
>Not being hunter, it's not clear how it would be used. Does paddle
>toward a flock of sitting waterfowl, and fire when they startle into
>the air with the notion of cutting down a swath o'ducks (or geese)?
>
>I can imagine it's a pretty impressive effect when viewed from within
>the boat.
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>>Scull out the rear or use a very short paddle. Paddle quietly. Do it at
>><http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpg>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpg
>
>Not being hunter, it's not clear how it would be used. Does paddle
>toward a flock of sitting waterfowl, and fire when they startle into
>the air with the notion of cutting down a swath o'ducks (or geese)?
>
>I can imagine it's a pretty impressive effect when viewed from within
>the boat.
night. Shoot at the birds on the water.
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or each other
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<snip>
> In another couple of generations, I guess we'll all be eating
> tofu and algae!
>
> John T
As I understand it, the technique was to dump a line of corn in the water.
The next morning, the ducks would be lined up feeding on the corn. The
hunter would ease his boat around to the end of the line, whistle (causing
the ducks to raise their heads), and fire either a punt gun or a "battery
gun" (consisting of several barrels more or less aligned). Done right, this
would allow the hunter to kill 50-100birds. For what it is worth, this is
supposed to be the origin of the expression, "Getting your ducks in a row".
Ducks slaughtered in this manner where normally canvas backs and were sold
to resteraunts in Baltimore. Our ancester's habits and loss of habitat
greatly reduced the population of ducks. Today, long lining and massive
gillnets are doing the same thing to many species of fish. In another
couple of generations, I guess we'll all be eating tofu and algae!
John T
The next morning, the ducks would be lined up feeding on the corn. The
hunter would ease his boat around to the end of the line, whistle (causing
the ducks to raise their heads), and fire either a punt gun or a "battery
gun" (consisting of several barrels more or less aligned). Done right, this
would allow the hunter to kill 50-100birds. For what it is worth, this is
supposed to be the origin of the expression, "Getting your ducks in a row".
Ducks slaughtered in this manner where normally canvas backs and were sold
to resteraunts in Baltimore. Our ancester's habits and loss of habitat
greatly reduced the population of ducks. Today, long lining and massive
gillnets are doing the same thing to many species of fish. In another
couple of generations, I guess we'll all be eating tofu and algae!
John T
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From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Punt Gun Photo
>>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpg
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> Not being hunter, it's not clear how it would be used. Does paddle
> toward a flock of sitting waterfowl, and fire when they startle into
> the air with the notion of cutting down a swath o'ducks (or geese)?
>
> I can imagine it's a pretty impressive effect when viewed from within
> the boat.
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> they're all gone now. No moreThat is how I feel about the good wood that used to be available for
boatbuilding.
Heck, the pieces of 1954 2x4 wood that I cut out of the back wall of
my garage [poking a hole for my Topaz] was nice vertical grain old
growth Doug Fir.
As I remember, in Michener's "Chesapeake", there's a pretty good
depiction of this sort of hunting. Sounded impressively effective when
it came to slaughtering large quantities of waterfowl. After a while
they became illegal because they were so efficient. Some folks kept on
using them illicitly, but I "think" they're all gone now. No more huge
rafts of ducks & geese to mow through, I'd imagine. More population
density, and better enforcement would make clandestine poaching much
more difficult, I'd think. Any Cheasapeake folks that can comment?
On the West Coast, we had some of the same dynamic - esp. when it came
to Salmon. They used to set such huge gillnets that they couldn't be
retrieved by hand - even with the use of winches. They used to sail
teams of draft horses out to the big sand bars in the middle of the
Columbia River to haul the nets in.
I'm afraid the days of such plentiful game are gone - likely for a
long time, if not forever. It appears as if too much human population -
and the various impacts that spring therefrom - has made a resurgence
difficult, if not impossible.
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands,
all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control.
History has proven: all power corrupts, absolute power corrupts
absolutely" -- Lord Acton
****************
depiction of this sort of hunting. Sounded impressively effective when
it came to slaughtering large quantities of waterfowl. After a while
they became illegal because they were so efficient. Some folks kept on
using them illicitly, but I "think" they're all gone now. No more huge
rafts of ducks & geese to mow through, I'd imagine. More population
density, and better enforcement would make clandestine poaching much
more difficult, I'd think. Any Cheasapeake folks that can comment?
On the West Coast, we had some of the same dynamic - esp. when it came
to Salmon. They used to set such huge gillnets that they couldn't be
retrieved by hand - even with the use of winches. They used to sail
teams of draft horses out to the big sand bars in the middle of the
Columbia River to haul the nets in.
I'm afraid the days of such plentiful game are gone - likely for a
long time, if not forever. It appears as if too much human population -
and the various impacts that spring therefrom - has made a resurgence
difficult, if not impossible.
David Graybeal
Portland, OR.
"And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands,
all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control.
History has proven: all power corrupts, absolute power corrupts
absolutely" -- Lord Acton
****************
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...> wrote:
>
> >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpg
>
> Not being hunter, it's not clear how it would be used. Does paddle
> toward a flock of sitting waterfowl, and fire when they startle into
> the air with the notion of cutting down a swath o'ducks (or geese)?
>
> I can imagine it's a pretty impressive effect when viewed from within
> the boat.
>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpgNot being hunter, it's not clear how it would be used. Does paddle
toward a flock of sitting waterfowl, and fire when they startle into
the air with the notion of cutting down a swath o'ducks (or geese)?
I can imagine it's a pretty impressive effect when viewed from within
the boat.
Many thanks to all who responded to my request for gunning punt
photos. Some of the links were new to me and were helpful. I also was
able to order a book called the "The Outlaw Hunters" on this subject,
and it claims to have over 150 historical photos of market hunters and
their gear.
Amongst all of this information, I'm sure I'll be able to find
something for the DOW to use in their classes.
Thanks again!
Jon Kolb
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
photos. Some of the links were new to me and were helpful. I also was
able to order a book called the "The Outlaw Hunters" on this subject,
and it claims to have over 150 historical photos of market hunters and
their gear.
Amongst all of this information, I'm sure I'll be able to find
something for the DOW to use in their classes.
Thanks again!
Jon Kolb
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/seaside_1915.jpg
Genuine punt gun, not movie prop, though maybe on the small side.
The seaside bateau (Chapelle's "Sinepuxent Skiff") was not a typical
gunning boat. This is someone's modification.
--
Craig O'Donnell
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-- Macintosh kinda guy
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Genuine punt gun, not movie prop, though maybe on the small side.
The seaside bateau (Chapelle's "Sinepuxent Skiff") was not a typical
gunning boat. This is someone's modification.
--
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/>
The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html>
The Cheap Pages <http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/>
Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
_________________________________
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-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
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The Barnagat Bay Sneakbox originated as a gunning skiff. I also recall
something about a gunning skiff at the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum.
See alsohttp://www.wildfowling.com/puntgun.htmfor some links.
As for the gun. I rented "Tremors 4" this weekend for some unknown
reason. Rent it but don't pay much attention to the story until about
3/4 of the way through the movie when Michael Gross shows up in a
wagon with a percussion cap Punt gun that they're going to use to
shoot "earth dragons". Check it out here
http://www.thelegendbegins.com/weapons_of_tremors4.html#punt
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
something about a gunning skiff at the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum.
See alsohttp://www.wildfowling.com/puntgun.htmfor some links.
As for the gun. I rented "Tremors 4" this weekend for some unknown
reason. Rent it but don't pay much attention to the story until about
3/4 of the way through the movie when Michael Gross shows up in a
wagon with a percussion cap Punt gun that they're going to use to
shoot "earth dragons". Check it out here
http://www.thelegendbegins.com/weapons_of_tremors4.html#punt
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
>
> This past weekend I completed a hunter education course, during which
> there was a section on the history of wildlife conservation and the
> evolution of game laws in this country. The instructor mentioned the
> long-ago practice of market hunting, in particular the use of what
> this group would know as a gunning punt or skiff with a fixed mount,
> very large bore shotgun. He's looking for photo of one of these to
> use in the course, and I volunteered during one of the breaks to try
> and dig one up for him.
>
> I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
> those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
> home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
> Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
> used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
> that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
> prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
> practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
> photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
> recall.
>
> Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
> potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
> gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
> photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
> setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
>
> Jon Kolb
>http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
Here is another.
http://www.lesjones.com/posts/000976.shtml
http://www.lesjones.com/posts/000976.shtml
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From: adventures_in_astrophotography
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: [bolger] Gunning Punt or Skiff
This past weekend I completed a hunter education course, during which
there was a section on the history of wildlife conservation and the
evolution of game laws in this country. The instructor mentioned the
long-ago practice of market hunting, in particular the use of what
this group would know as a gunning punt or skiff with a fixed mount,
very large bore shotgun. He's looking for photo of one of these to
use in the course, and I volunteered during one of the breaks to try
and dig one up for him.
I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
recall.
Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
Jon Kolb
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
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Try This Link.
http://gallery.puntgunner.co.uk/humber-estuary
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From: adventures_in_astrophotography
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: [bolger] Gunning Punt or Skiff
This past weekend I completed a hunter education course, during which
there was a section on the history of wildlife conservation and the
evolution of game laws in this country. The instructor mentioned the
long-ago practice of market hunting, in particular the use of what
this group would know as a gunning punt or skiff with a fixed mount,
very large bore shotgun. He's looking for photo of one of these to
use in the course, and I volunteered during one of the breaks to try
and dig one up for him.
I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
recall.
Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
Jon Kolb
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
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From: adventures_in_astrophotography
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: [bolger] Gunning Punt or Skiff
This past weekend I completed a hunter education course, during which
there was a section on the history of wildlife conservation and the
evolution of game laws in this country. The instructor mentioned the
long-ago practice of market hunting, in particular the use of what
this group would know as a gunning punt or skiff with a fixed mount,
very large bore shotgun. He's looking for photo of one of these to
use in the course, and I volunteered during one of the breaks to try
and dig one up for him.
I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
recall.
Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
Jon Kolb
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
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I've got a copy of "The Market Gunner". What you want?
Also, if you look on my Seaside Bateau page,I believe there is a link to a
small bateau that someone stuck a gun on. (Link below).
Craig O'Donnell
Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
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Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks,
American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c.
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-- Macintosh kinda guy
Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997.
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Also, if you look on my Seaside Bateau page,I believe there is a link to a
small bateau that someone stuck a gun on. (Link below).
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>I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
>those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
>home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
>Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
>used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
>that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
>prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
>practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
>photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
>recall.
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>Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
>potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
>gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
>photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
>setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
>
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The Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum (cbmm.com maybe) has a display of a
sneak boat with a mounted punt gun. You might be able to get a photo
from them. I know it's in one or moreof their publications. Clyde
adventures_in_astrophotography wrote:
sneak boat with a mounted punt gun. You might be able to get a photo
from them. I know it's in one or moreof their publications. Clyde
adventures_in_astrophotography wrote:
>This past weekend I completed a hunter education course, during which
>there was a section on the history of wildlife conservation and the
>evolution of game laws in this country. The instructor mentioned the
>long-ago practice of market hunting, in particular the use of what
>this group would know as a gunning punt or skiff with a fixed mount,
>very large bore shotgun. He's looking for photo of one of these to
>use in the course, and I volunteered during one of the breaks to try
>and dig one up for him.
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>I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
>those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
>home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
>Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
>used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
>that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
>prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
>practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
>photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
>recall.
>
>Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
>potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
>gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
>photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
>setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
>
>Jon Kolb
>http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
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This past weekend I completed a hunter education course, during which
there was a section on the history of wildlife conservation and the
evolution of game laws in this country. The instructor mentioned the
long-ago practice of market hunting, in particular the use of what
this group would know as a gunning punt or skiff with a fixed mount,
very large bore shotgun. He's looking for photo of one of these to
use in the course, and I volunteered during one of the breaks to try
and dig one up for him.
I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
recall.
Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
Jon Kolb
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
there was a section on the history of wildlife conservation and the
evolution of game laws in this country. The instructor mentioned the
long-ago practice of market hunting, in particular the use of what
this group would know as a gunning punt or skiff with a fixed mount,
very large bore shotgun. He's looking for photo of one of these to
use in the course, and I volunteered during one of the breaks to try
and dig one up for him.
I know I've seen photos of these boats, since it's hard to forget
those giant, cannon-like shotguns, but alas, I can find no photos at
home. Chappelle shows several gunning boats in American Small
Sailing Craft, but none of the descriptions indicate which of these
used the large, fixed position guns. I suspect that Figure 49 in
that book is one such boat, since it makes use of a scull from a semi-
prone position to creep up on the flock, but I can't be sure. The
practice is apparently still legal in the UK, and I've found some
photos of a modern boat, but with a somewhat smaller gun that I
recall.
Does anyone in the group have photos, references to photos, or
potential sources for photos of these boats, preferably showing the
gun mounted? The ideal source would be a high enough resolution
photo so that a large size could be printed for display in a class
setting. Thanks in advance to anyone who may be able to help.
Jon Kolb
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm