Re: [bolger] Re: Micros in New South Wales
> allows files storage of 20MB; and photos storage 30MB:Yahoo also roughly doubled the maximum size allowed for
the photos, from woefully small, to medium.
Files, or Flickr with a Bolger tag, are still the best for high quality photos.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
already. And then there is flikr which Bruce Hallman has set up. There
are several albums there and lots of space. Don't ask me for the link
though. Perhaps it could be added to the home page?
Nels
wrote:
>Start filling up the coffee lounge:-) There are some photos there
> What's next?
>
> Graeme
already. And then there is flikr which Bruce Hallman has set up. There
are several albums there and lots of space. Don't ask me for the link
though. Perhaps it could be added to the home page?
Nels
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@...> wrote:Yahoogroups
> Brisbane and the South Australians will need to sail elsewhere
> because I think Bolger 6 Files may now be full????
allows files storage of 20MB; and photos storage 30MB:
bolger_________________ 99%; and 35% full respectively
bolger2________________ 99%; 25% " "
bolger3________________ 99%; 26% " "
bolger4________________ 98%; 4% " "
bolger4photos__________ 82%; 21% " "
Bolger4Sale____________ 10%; 0% " "
bolger5________________ 96%; 5% " "
bolger6________________ 99%; 9% " "
bolger_coffee_lounge___ 0%; o% " "
Bolger_Rants___________ 0%; 0% " "
bolger_study_plans_only 36%; 0% " "
BolgerCartoons_________ 70%; 1% " "
How's about bolgerindex?
What's next?
Graeme
Hi Nels,
I've met others who say they have heard of this man on a Micro
mission. It occurred a bit before I chanced on the Bolger
phenomenon, perhaps 10-12 years before. Skipper #2 (#1 hardly wet
her) seemed reliably informed. I felt, just perhaps, some
colleaguiate discretion at play. He told me of the Martha Jane(s).
After a long time of various trailer sailing, including one build of
a very nice photogenic gaff sloop, even Micro had become too much
for him and his wife with advancing age. They were pulling back to
landlubber camping. I'm satisfied that it happened, but I don't know
the full story. Why and how this Bolger binge happened, where the
fleet went, and whether any other boats are still extant is a
mystery to me, and adds to the wonder.
My impression is the boats were built quite quickly, not to cabinet
joinery standard, but strong enough. Adherance to the plan colour
scheme in this hot clime demonstrates an unambiguous Micro ethic.
The Bolger Way, vision splendid? Scantlings are about to plan, I
think, here and there a bit heavier perhaps. 3/8" ply throughout.
The reinforcing rub strips on the bottom take some weight on the
outboard trailer rollers as she comes along. Those rollers stabilise
her on the trailer so the strips must take some on-road shock.
She floats very easily off the trailer, but must be aligned just so
to ride back on. A reluctance to leave the water? All up, the
trailering considerations surely show some evolution in the
construction, as does the rig.
The rig is exactly per plan save that: the main mast is tied into a
recess in the partner ; the masts are industrial alloy tube
(predating PCB&F by a decade); instead of lacing or track, sail
luffs are fitted with conventioal 90degree twist nylon jib hanks;
the wire abaft each mast (serving as track, if you will) is
strained by conventional over-centre tensioners at the lower end; as
the mains'l luff sags somewhat hoops are used. I think the tube a
good idea, but the original lacing may be best for rigging and
reefing as the hoops and hanks are a bit bothersome. I think perhaps
the sailmaker allowed too much draft as per the recently posted
comments of PCB on this sail type. Perhaps they considered it a jib?
Reaching and running in a breeze is fine though. Micro's windage
detracts from close work in anycase.
She needs a little maintenance, and a cosmetic makeover. The 4hp
mariner has insufficient clearance to tilt. Something must be done
there as any less than 4hp wouldn't make way into 20+kts and chop.
I'd like some cabin furniture. Here any boat under 20ft and with
more than 4hp requires recreational ship (speed boat!) registration,
so I'd like a scheme more substantial than the boomkin to increase
length (any ideas? what's that you say? Nels, Ross, Bill? LM?
hmmm..). I might try converting to luff lacing, and am really,
really attracted to Roger Keyes' permanently rove double snotter
with pilot house rig for this old girl. No hurry, until school and
soccer finish this year I could only manage the one day cruise
anyhow.
cheers
Graeme
I've met others who say they have heard of this man on a Micro
mission. It occurred a bit before I chanced on the Bolger
phenomenon, perhaps 10-12 years before. Skipper #2 (#1 hardly wet
her) seemed reliably informed. I felt, just perhaps, some
colleaguiate discretion at play. He told me of the Martha Jane(s).
After a long time of various trailer sailing, including one build of
a very nice photogenic gaff sloop, even Micro had become too much
for him and his wife with advancing age. They were pulling back to
landlubber camping. I'm satisfied that it happened, but I don't know
the full story. Why and how this Bolger binge happened, where the
fleet went, and whether any other boats are still extant is a
mystery to me, and adds to the wonder.
My impression is the boats were built quite quickly, not to cabinet
joinery standard, but strong enough. Adherance to the plan colour
scheme in this hot clime demonstrates an unambiguous Micro ethic.
The Bolger Way, vision splendid? Scantlings are about to plan, I
think, here and there a bit heavier perhaps. 3/8" ply throughout.
The reinforcing rub strips on the bottom take some weight on the
outboard trailer rollers as she comes along. Those rollers stabilise
her on the trailer so the strips must take some on-road shock.
She floats very easily off the trailer, but must be aligned just so
to ride back on. A reluctance to leave the water? All up, the
trailering considerations surely show some evolution in the
construction, as does the rig.
The rig is exactly per plan save that: the main mast is tied into a
recess in the partner ; the masts are industrial alloy tube
(predating PCB&F by a decade); instead of lacing or track, sail
luffs are fitted with conventioal 90degree twist nylon jib hanks;
the wire abaft each mast (serving as track, if you will) is
strained by conventional over-centre tensioners at the lower end; as
the mains'l luff sags somewhat hoops are used. I think the tube a
good idea, but the original lacing may be best for rigging and
reefing as the hoops and hanks are a bit bothersome. I think perhaps
the sailmaker allowed too much draft as per the recently posted
comments of PCB on this sail type. Perhaps they considered it a jib?
Reaching and running in a breeze is fine though. Micro's windage
detracts from close work in anycase.
She needs a little maintenance, and a cosmetic makeover. The 4hp
mariner has insufficient clearance to tilt. Something must be done
there as any less than 4hp wouldn't make way into 20+kts and chop.
I'd like some cabin furniture. Here any boat under 20ft and with
more than 4hp requires recreational ship (speed boat!) registration,
so I'd like a scheme more substantial than the boomkin to increase
length (any ideas? what's that you say? Nels, Ross, Bill? LM?
hmmm..). I might try converting to luff lacing, and am really,
really attracted to Roger Keyes' permanently rove double snotter
with pilot house rig for this old girl. No hurry, until school and
soccer finish this year I could only manage the one day cruise
anyhow.
cheers
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@>
> wrote:
> > Her yarnigree be that a certain sergeant instructor of Qld
police
> > with the vision sent chips flying with increasing drive as he
> > produced not one, but four (or more) Micros, and the odd Martha
> > Jane. "Bath Tub"-to-be, uncommissioned, was bartered for an
hefty
> > outboard to a nephew eager to join the fleet. Nephew new not of
> > sail, and so the rig - hanks on sssttra i n e d luff wire ablow
> to
> > lee borne abaft each mast, and much too belly-o. Insight of the
> > sailmaker less than the trailermaker.
>
> Hi Graeme,
>
> Very interesting set of photos. So there are several others out
> there built by the same police instructor? Would be interesting to
> find out what changes if any were made as he progressed in the
> building, or what his comments would be on the design. That is
quite
> amazing.
>
> I notice what appears to be reinforcement or rub strips near the
> waterline and on the bottom. Does this indicate that it was built
> with the scantlings in the original plans which seemed to be a
bit
> on the light side for fexibility?
>
> Are you planning to make any changes to the sail plan, or try it
out
> first the way it is? I understand it has the rig off an older
> production boat?
>
> Any other changes you are considering?
>
> Thanks, Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
Very interesting set of photos. So there are several others out
there built by the same police instructor? Would be interesting to
find out what changes if any were made as he progressed in the
building, or what his comments would be on the design. That is quite
amazing.
I notice what appears to be reinforcement or rub strips near the
waterline and on the bottom. Does this indicate that it was built
with the scantlings in the original plans which seemed to be a bit
on the light side for fexibility?
Are you planning to make any changes to the sail plan, or try it out
first the way it is? I understand it has the rig off an older
production boat?
Any other changes you are considering?
Thanks, Nels
wrote:
> Her yarnigree be that a certain sergeant instructor of Qld policeto
> with the vision sent chips flying with increasing drive as he
> produced not one, but four (or more) Micros, and the odd Martha
> Jane. "Bath Tub"-to-be, uncommissioned, was bartered for an hefty
> outboard to a nephew eager to join the fleet. Nephew new not of
> sail, and so the rig - hanks on sssttra i n e d luff wire ablow
> lee borne abaft each mast, and much too belly-o. Insight of theHi Graeme,
> sailmaker less than the trailermaker.
Very interesting set of photos. So there are several others out
there built by the same police instructor? Would be interesting to
find out what changes if any were made as he progressed in the
building, or what his comments would be on the design. That is quite
amazing.
I notice what appears to be reinforcement or rub strips near the
waterline and on the bottom. Does this indicate that it was built
with the scantlings in the original plans which seemed to be a bit
on the light side for fexibility?
Are you planning to make any changes to the sail plan, or try it out
first the way it is? I understand it has the rig off an older
production boat?
Any other changes you are considering?
Thanks, Nels
The "Bath Tub" moniker come with the boat. Rebadged - by her second
skipper, who with his good wife so obviously are inherently of such
impeccable integrity as to render futile any sprue slung by Davy
Jones' name enforcement apparatchiki. The first name, naturally
unmentioned, save that there was.
Unoffendabling "Bath Tub" is from "The Lovers", BWAOM (p220).
Her yarnigree be that a certain sergeant instructor of Qld police
with the vision sent chips flying with increasing drive as he
produced not one, but four (or more) Micros, and the odd Martha
Jane. "Bath Tub"-to-be, uncommissioned, was bartered for an hefty
outboard to a nephew eager to join the fleet. Nephew new not of
sail, and so the rig - hanks on sssttra i n e d luff wire ablow to
lee borne abaft each mast, and much too belly-o. Insight of the
sailmaker less than the trailermaker. Skipper 2 improved the trailer
winch position from its problematic lower spot, but empirically
found the recycled flexible truck tyre fenders just right. He
corrected luff sag with PVC pipe hoops encompassing the wire.
Skipper 3 me, afore she's at sea; says'l be change, but no not the
name.
cheers
Graeme
skipper, who with his good wife so obviously are inherently of such
impeccable integrity as to render futile any sprue slung by Davy
Jones' name enforcement apparatchiki. The first name, naturally
unmentioned, save that there was.
Unoffendabling "Bath Tub" is from "The Lovers", BWAOM (p220).
Her yarnigree be that a certain sergeant instructor of Qld police
with the vision sent chips flying with increasing drive as he
produced not one, but four (or more) Micros, and the odd Martha
Jane. "Bath Tub"-to-be, uncommissioned, was bartered for an hefty
outboard to a nephew eager to join the fleet. Nephew new not of
sail, and so the rig - hanks on sssttra i n e d luff wire ablow to
lee borne abaft each mast, and much too belly-o. Insight of the
sailmaker less than the trailermaker. Skipper 2 improved the trailer
winch position from its problematic lower spot, but empirically
found the recycled flexible truck tyre fenders just right. He
corrected luff sag with PVC pipe hoops encompassing the wire.
Skipper 3 me, afore she's at sea; says'l be change, but no not the
name.
cheers
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@...> wrote:
>
> I had trouble working this one out for a minute, but ten, I'm
from
> NSW! Bath Tub, what a great name. Thanks Graeme, Three Micros
in
> Brisbane and the South Australians will need to sail elsewhere
> because I think Bolger 6 Files may now be full????
>
> Greg F
I had trouble working this one out for a minute, but ten, I'm from
NSW! Bath Tub, what a great name. Thanks Graeme, Three Micros in
Brisbane and the South Australians will need to sail elsewhere
because I think Bolger 6 Files may now be full????
Greg F
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
NSW! Bath Tub, what a great name. Thanks Graeme, Three Micros in
Brisbane and the South Australians will need to sail elsewhere
because I think Bolger 6 Files may now be full????
Greg F
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
>Micros
> Posted: Micro trailer pics of Bath Tub - see Qld Micros bolger6.
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/files/Queensland%20Micros/
>
> Found : Name & number of light grey Micro skipper. (Trust
> a 'hoarder' to have that scrap of paper somewhere - in the rego
> pile. I did note it as being whitish?, 1Dec02. Memory's better -
> wow!)
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@> wrote:
> >
> > It would be great to see a picture of your boat too, Graeme and
> maybe
> > that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is
> that
> > on the Brisbane River?
> >
> > Elrow was in to "From Finland to Tasmania" as an advertising
> slogan??
> > it is, after all, the other end of the earth to Finland, there's
> not
> > much else further south. Maybe the Tyson family would be able to
> > help with Tasmanian boats??
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Elrow LaRowe wrote of Micros in Tassie. From about the same
> vintage
> > is
> > > mine in Brisbane. Encountered a near new grayish coloured one
> off
> > > Colmslie about two years ago - might have a phone number
> somewhere.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Graeme
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "baysidewoodenboats"
> <lillistone@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Greg,
> > > >
> > > > I don't know about New South Wales, but I know of a few
> up
> > > > here in Queensland (Australian state, for all of you
> foreigners).
> > > > One of them is "Cricket" which I built for Dr Paul Truscott a
> few
> > > > years back. The other one I know of definitely is sailed in
> > Brisbane
> > > > by a very competetive dinghy sailor (NS14) who finds her
> sailing
> > > > performance very satisfying. I've got photos of both boats,
> but I
> > > > have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells
> me
> > I'm
> > > > not a member.
> > > >
> > > > Ross Lillistone
> > >
> >
>
Posted: Micro trailer pics of Bath Tub - see Qld Micros bolger6.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/files/Queensland%20Micros/
Found : Name & number of light grey Micro skipper. (Trust
a 'hoarder' to have that scrap of paper somewhere - in the rego
pile. I did note it as being whitish?, 1Dec02. Memory's better -
wow!)
Cheers
Graeme
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/files/Queensland%20Micros/
Found : Name & number of light grey Micro skipper. (Trust
a 'hoarder' to have that scrap of paper somewhere - in the rego
pile. I did note it as being whitish?, 1Dec02. Memory's better -
wow!)
Cheers
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@...> wrote:
>
> It would be great to see a picture of your boat too, Graeme and
maybe
> that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is
that
> on the Brisbane River?
>
> Elrow was in to "From Finland to Tasmania" as an advertising
slogan??
> it is, after all, the other end of the earth to Finland, there's
not
> much else further south. Maybe the Tyson family would be able to
> help with Tasmanian boats??
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Elrow LaRowe wrote of Micros in Tassie. From about the same
vintage
> is
> > mine in Brisbane. Encountered a near new grayish coloured one
off
> > Colmslie about two years ago - might have a phone number
somewhere.
> >
> > cheers
> > Graeme
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "baysidewoodenboats"
<lillistone@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Greg,
> > >
> > > I don't know about New South Wales, but I know of a few Micros
up
> > > here in Queensland (Australian state, for all of you
foreigners).
> > > One of them is "Cricket" which I built for Dr Paul Truscott a
few
> > > years back. The other one I know of definitely is sailed in
> Brisbane
> > > by a very competetive dinghy sailor (NS14) who finds her
sailing
> > > performance very satisfying. I've got photos of both boats,
but I
> > > have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells
me
> I'm
> > > not a member.
> > >
> > > Ross Lillistone
> >
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
There was also some discussion at the time, IIRC, of Roger's
so they could have that option to consider. Particularly if one
considers a Birdwatcher type doghouse slot in the roof to get out of
the cold or even shelter from direct sun at times. Yet have access
to tie in a reef of the standard sail plan.
Also any perspective builders might want to take into consideration
some of the latest modifications drawn up by PCB&F.
A few hints are shown here in Bolger4 files in the folder MICRO
NAVIGATOR. Although that sheet has been upgraded again!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4/files/
The forward hatch and access to the bow well may be one modification
to consider as it would give access to that area without going on
deck. It at least would give access to the mast and the
jib/spinnaker if one chooses that addition as well.
Nels
wrote:
There was also some discussion at the time, IIRC, of Roger's
> permanent double rigging of snotters, the run of all the riglines,
> and whether or not, and how he went forward when reefing. Thesethe
> modified systems on Roger's Paloma Blanca are sure to be supremely
> worked out and practical in use, and I'm sure many would greatly
> appreciate detailed decriptions, and *pictures* or drawings of the
> various improvements he has made. I know I would! It would be just
> great if Robert Ayliffe, Roger, or yourself were able to record
> details and pass them on, or perhaps they could be given to PCB&FI would second that. It would be useful for a lot of Micro builders
> and we could have them from there. Maybe PCB&F already have
> available a plan for the Paloma Blanca modifications they approved?
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
so they could have that option to consider. Particularly if one
considers a Birdwatcher type doghouse slot in the roof to get out of
the cold or even shelter from direct sun at times. Yet have access
to tie in a reef of the standard sail plan.
Also any perspective builders might want to take into consideration
some of the latest modifications drawn up by PCB&F.
A few hints are shown here in Bolger4 files in the folder MICRO
NAVIGATOR. Although that sheet has been upgraded again!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4/files/
The forward hatch and access to the bow well may be one modification
to consider as it would give access to that area without going on
deck. It at least would give access to the mast and the
jib/spinnaker if one chooses that addition as well.
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "mannthree" <johnmann@...> wrote:
Thanks very much for the update. I have often wondered how he was
doing and hope he has recovered his health. I think it would really
be of interest if there could be some sort of article written up on
his exploits, although he obviously does not think there is anything
much special in what he has done.
Also would be great to see some more photos of Paloma Blanca, the
world's most travelled Micro - and about as plain and simple as it
gets.
Of course there are a lot exploits involving Bolger boats in the
land down under, that should be recorded. Could have a full issue of
Woodenboat devoted just to that Tyson clan over in Taz!
Nels
>Adelaide
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@> wrote:
> >Nels,
>
> I am an ex South Australian living in Sydney and I return to
> (Where Roger Keyes lives) a couple of times each year and usuallyyard in
> visit him. He is well and has Paloma Blanca on a trailer at a
> Port Adelaide. He has done a couple of trips over the previous twoto
> years mainly down to Kangaroo Island and across the gulf to Port
> Stansbury. He was in poor health for a while and the trips seemed
> take a lot out of him. He finally (grudgingly) bought an outboardfor
> the boat so that he would not have to sit outside a port whenbecalmed
> and eager to get ashore. I know the waters around St Vincents andimagine
> Spencers Gulfs in South Australia (ex surfer) and I still cant
> taking my Micro out there in heavy weather. There is a picture inone
> of the Bolger groups that I posted of Roger's boat with a plywoodelements
> "dodger"/Pilot House that he built to get himself out of the
> in rough and cold weather. He said that Bolger approved of thestructure,
>Hi John,
> Cheers,
>
> John Mann
Thanks very much for the update. I have often wondered how he was
doing and hope he has recovered his health. I think it would really
be of interest if there could be some sort of article written up on
his exploits, although he obviously does not think there is anything
much special in what he has done.
Also would be great to see some more photos of Paloma Blanca, the
world's most travelled Micro - and about as plain and simple as it
gets.
Of course there are a lot exploits involving Bolger boats in the
land down under, that should be recorded. Could have a full issue of
Woodenboat devoted just to that Tyson clan over in Taz!
Nels
Greg, you're correct, Colmslie is stretch along the south bank near
the Gateway Bridge. It's a few miles upstream from the river
mouth.There is a nice municipal park with amenities and a good
sheltered boat ramp and pontoon dock. You can access the bay from
here, as some do, but there are closer spots. I haven't turned up
that phone number yet, but will have a closer look. It'd be nice if
Robert Ayliffe rounds up the South Australians.
Nels, that Paloma Blanca sure is some mighty boat.
John, thanks for that news of Roger and Paloma Blanca. I hope Roger
is enjoying good health now. His modifications, adventures, and
championing of the Micro (Bolger Box) Way are inspirational. Thanks
for posting that picture featuring the Bolger approved pilot house.
Simple and effective, much easier than the Navigator mod, and
probably more than sufficient for the needs of mostly solo shorter
cruising. I recall at the time there was some discussion here about
how the pilot house actually changed the design. For instance, it
was unclear from the photo whether it provided standing head room, a
galley, was simply a shelter over the crew still sitting on the
original deck, or whether the helm could be handed from inside and
how. There was also some discussion at the time, IIRC, of Roger's
permanent double rigging of snotters, the run of all the rig lines,
and whether or not, and how he went forward when reefing. These
modified systems on Roger's Paloma Blanca are sure to be supremely
worked out and practical in use, and I'm sure many would greatly
appreciate detailed decriptions, and *pictures* or drawings of the
various improvements he has made. I know I would! It would be just
great if Robert Ayliffe, Roger, or yourself were able to record the
details and pass them on, or perhaps they could be given to PCB&F
and we could have them from there. Maybe PCB&F already have
available a plan for the Paloma Blanca modifications they approved?
Cheers
Graeme
the Gateway Bridge. It's a few miles upstream from the river
mouth.There is a nice municipal park with amenities and a good
sheltered boat ramp and pontoon dock. You can access the bay from
here, as some do, but there are closer spots. I haven't turned up
that phone number yet, but will have a closer look. It'd be nice if
Robert Ayliffe rounds up the South Australians.
Nels, that Paloma Blanca sure is some mighty boat.
John, thanks for that news of Roger and Paloma Blanca. I hope Roger
is enjoying good health now. His modifications, adventures, and
championing of the Micro (Bolger Box) Way are inspirational. Thanks
for posting that picture featuring the Bolger approved pilot house.
Simple and effective, much easier than the Navigator mod, and
probably more than sufficient for the needs of mostly solo shorter
cruising. I recall at the time there was some discussion here about
how the pilot house actually changed the design. For instance, it
was unclear from the photo whether it provided standing head room, a
galley, was simply a shelter over the crew still sitting on the
original deck, or whether the helm could be handed from inside and
how. There was also some discussion at the time, IIRC, of Roger's
permanent double rigging of snotters, the run of all the rig lines,
and whether or not, and how he went forward when reefing. These
modified systems on Roger's Paloma Blanca are sure to be supremely
worked out and practical in use, and I'm sure many would greatly
appreciate detailed decriptions, and *pictures* or drawings of the
various improvements he has made. I know I would! It would be just
great if Robert Ayliffe, Roger, or yourself were able to record the
details and pass them on, or perhaps they could be given to PCB&F
and we could have them from there. Maybe PCB&F already have
available a plan for the Paloma Blanca modifications they approved?
Cheers
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "mannthree" <johnmann@...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@> wrote:
> >Nels,
> I am an ex South Australian living in Sydney and I return to
Adelaide
> (Where Roger Keyes lives) a couple of times each year and usually
> visit him. He is well and has Paloma Blanca on a trailer at a
yard in
> Port Adelaide. He has done a couple of trips over the previous two
> years mainly down to Kangaroo Island and across the gulf to Port
> Stansbury. He was in poor health for a while and the trips seemed
to
> take a lot out of him. He finally (grudgingly) bought an outboard
for
> the boat so that he would not have to sit outside a port when
becalmed
> and eager to get ashore. I know the waters around St Vincents and
> Spencers Gulfs in South Australia (ex surfer) and I still cant
imagine
> taking my Micro out there in heavy weather. There is a picture in
one
> of the Bolger groups that I posted of Roger's boat with a plywood
> "dodger"/Pilot House that he built to get himself out of the
elements
> in rough and cold weather. He said that Bolger approved of the
structure,
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Mann
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It would be great to see a picture of your boat too, Graeme
and
> > maybe
> > > that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is
that
> > > on the Brisbane River?
> > >
> > Would be great to hear if anyone knows how Roger Keyes is doing
as
> > well. Or have information on any of his exploits?
> >
> > Probably the most venturesome Micro sailor on the planet!
> >
> > Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
(Where Roger Keyes lives) a couple of times each year and usually
visit him. He is well and has Paloma Blanca on a trailer at a yard in
Port Adelaide. He has done a couple of trips over the previous two
years mainly down to Kangaroo Island and across the gulf to Port
Stansbury. He was in poor health for a while and the trips seemed to
take a lot out of him. He finally (grudgingly) bought an outboard for
the boat so that he would not have to sit outside a port when becalmed
and eager to get ashore. I know the waters around St Vincents and
Spencers Gulfs in South Australia (ex surfer) and I still cant imagine
taking my Micro out there in heavy weather. There is a picture in one
of the Bolger groups that I posted of Roger's boat with a plywood
"dodger"/Pilot House that he built to get himself out of the elements
in rough and cold weather. He said that Bolger approved of the structure,
Cheers,
John Mann
>Nels,I am an ex South Australian living in Sydney and I return to Adelaide
(Where Roger Keyes lives) a couple of times each year and usually
visit him. He is well and has Paloma Blanca on a trailer at a yard in
Port Adelaide. He has done a couple of trips over the previous two
years mainly down to Kangaroo Island and across the gulf to Port
Stansbury. He was in poor health for a while and the trips seemed to
take a lot out of him. He finally (grudgingly) bought an outboard for
the boat so that he would not have to sit outside a port when becalmed
and eager to get ashore. I know the waters around St Vincents and
Spencers Gulfs in South Australia (ex surfer) and I still cant imagine
taking my Micro out there in heavy weather. There is a picture in one
of the Bolger groups that I posted of Roger's boat with a plywood
"dodger"/Pilot House that he built to get himself out of the elements
in rough and cold weather. He said that Bolger approved of the structure,
Cheers,
John Mann
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@> wrote:
> >
> > It would be great to see a picture of your boat too, Graeme and
> maybe
> > that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is that
> > on the Brisbane River?
> >
> Would be great to hear if anyone knows how Roger Keyes is doing as
> well. Or have information on any of his exploits?
>
> Probably the most venturesome Micro sailor on the planet!
>
> Nels
>
Robert Ayliffe, previously from Duck Flat Wooden Boats, and now with
the world-wide Norwalk Islands Sharpie sales, has promised to chase
up the South Australians, so maybe we will hear something of Paloma
Blanca, which, I believe, now has a Navigator-like cabin.
Greg F
the world-wide Norwalk Islands Sharpie sales, has promised to chase
up the South Australians, so maybe we will hear something of Paloma
Blanca, which, I believe, now has a Navigator-like cabin.
Greg F
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@> wrote:
> >
> > It would be great to see a picture of your boat too, Graeme and
> maybe
> > that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is
that
> > on the Brisbane River?
> >
> Would be great to hear if anyone knows how Roger Keyes is doing as
> well. Or have information on any of his exploits?
>
> Probably the most venturesome Micro sailor on the planet!
>
> Nels
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@...> wrote:
well. Or have information on any of his exploits?
Probably the most venturesome Micro sailor on the planet!
Nels
>maybe
> It would be great to see a picture of your boat too, Graeme and
> that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is thatWould be great to hear if anyone knows how Roger Keyes is doing as
> on the Brisbane River?
>
well. Or have information on any of his exploits?
Probably the most venturesome Micro sailor on the planet!
Nels
It would be great to see a picture of your boat too, Graeme and maybe
that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is that
on the Brisbane River?
Elrow was in to "From Finland to Tasmania" as an advertising slogan??
it is, after all, the other end of the earth to Finland, there's not
much else further south. Maybe the Tyson family would be able to
help with Tasmanian boats??
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
that phone number of the owner of the grayish one. Colmslie,is that
on the Brisbane River?
Elrow was in to "From Finland to Tasmania" as an advertising slogan??
it is, after all, the other end of the earth to Finland, there's not
much else further south. Maybe the Tyson family would be able to
help with Tasmanian boats??
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
>is
> Elrow LaRowe wrote of Micros in Tassie. From about the same vintage
> mine in Brisbane. Encountered a near new grayish coloured one offBrisbane
> Colmslie about two years ago - might have a phone number somewhere.
>
> cheers
> Graeme
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "baysidewoodenboats" <lillistone@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Greg,
> >
> > I don't know about New South Wales, but I know of a few Micros up
> > here in Queensland (Australian state, for all of you foreigners).
> > One of them is "Cricket" which I built for Dr Paul Truscott a few
> > years back. The other one I know of definitely is sailed in
> > by a very competetive dinghy sailor (NS14) who finds her sailingI'm
> > performance very satisfying. I've got photos of both boats, but I
> > have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells me
> > not a member.
> >
> > Ross Lillistone
>
Hello Ross
Thanks for the reply. Well, great to hear that Micros are doing OK
in Queensland and I would imagine that Moreton Bay would be a great
place for sailing a Micro. I would love to get the pictures so that
we could create another File called Micros in Queensland. OK, OK, I
can just hear all you nothern hemisphere people thinking: Why don't
they just have a file called Australian Micros Well, like Texas,
Australia is a big place!
Anyway, as I remember, just search for Bolger 6 on the Yahoo Groups
site and when it comes up click on Join the Group, If you are
already a member of the Bolger Discussion Group it should get you in
more or less right away. All you do is go to your emails to check
that "you have been approved"!
But send the pics to me if you would like me to create that file send
to:greg@...
So where are the South Australians, there are more there than
anywhere else due to the influence of Duck Flat Wooden Boats, I
gather.
Greg F
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "baysidewoodenboats" <lillistone@...>
wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Well, great to hear that Micros are doing OK
in Queensland and I would imagine that Moreton Bay would be a great
place for sailing a Micro. I would love to get the pictures so that
we could create another File called Micros in Queensland. OK, OK, I
can just hear all you nothern hemisphere people thinking: Why don't
they just have a file called Australian Micros Well, like Texas,
Australia is a big place!
Anyway, as I remember, just search for Bolger 6 on the Yahoo Groups
site and when it comes up click on Join the Group, If you are
already a member of the Bolger Discussion Group it should get you in
more or less right away. All you do is go to your emails to check
that "you have been approved"!
But send the pics to me if you would like me to create that file send
to:greg@...
So where are the South Australians, there are more there than
anywhere else due to the influence of Duck Flat Wooden Boats, I
gather.
Greg F
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "baysidewoodenboats" <lillistone@...>
wrote:
>Brisbane
> Dear Greg,
>
> I don't know about New South Wales, but I know of a few Micros up
> here in Queensland (Australian state, for all of you foreigners).
> One of them is "Cricket" which I built for Dr Paul Truscott a few
> years back. The other one I know of definitely is sailed in
> by a very competetive dinghy sailor (NS14) who finds her sailingI'm
> performance very satisfying. I've got photos of both boats, but I
> have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells me
> not a member.regional
>
> Ross Lillistone
>
> -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Just thought that it may be a really good idea to start a
> > photo record of Micros around, and as a start I have created amore.
> file
> > entitled NSW Micros in the Bolger 6 Files section.
> >
> > Well, the pictures are few at present, one of Matilda Jean (our
> boat)
> > up in Port Stephens (north of Sydney, around 200 kms) and two
> boats
> > that are moored on Sydney Harbour. I only know about these two
> boats
> > from an email by the owner of one through this Discussion Group.
> I
> > bet there are more Micros than these three in NSW but I didn't
> even
> > know about the two in Sydney - one of the real advantages of this
> > group.
> >
> > There was a for sale advertisement for another on the far south
> coast
> > of NSW some time ago and I'm sure there must be quite a few
> > Certainly there are a few in other states of the Australianon
> > Federation, South Australia being the most prominent due to Duck
> Flat
> > Wooden Boats. At least one more in Perth, Western Australia
> (again, a
> > for sale ad in Duck Flat).
> >
> > So where are you all? Please send us some pics, or at least an
> > so that we can start to create a "register" - all very low-key,
> you
> > understand. Why not a world-wide register of Micros, through this
> > Group?
> >
> > Anyway, one of the three pics posted in the file NSW Micros in
> Bolger
> > 6 is taken from a very long way away and simply shows the Micro
> > it's mooring on Sydney Harbour (sort of, may be Lane Cove Riverif
> oneto
> > is being pedantic) Called Micro in a Haystack, for obvious
> reasons.
> > But what a great pic taken in November? with the Jacarandas in
> bloom!
> > The other is of a Micro moored just off the Sydney Suburb of
> Balmain
> > in front of the Balmain Sailing Club - not half a kilometre from
> where
> > I write this, as I need to spend quite a bit of time here in
> Sydney,
> > and I never knew it was there (the Micro, that is). More power
> > this Group!
> >
> > Best wishes to all
> >
> > Greg Flemming
> >
>
Elrow LaRowe wrote of Micros in Tassie. From about the same vintage is
mine in Brisbane. Encountered a near new grayish coloured one off
Colmslie about two years ago - might have a phone number somewhere.
cheers
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "baysidewoodenboats" <lillistone@...>
wrote:
mine in Brisbane. Encountered a near new grayish coloured one off
Colmslie about two years ago - might have a phone number somewhere.
cheers
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "baysidewoodenboats" <lillistone@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Greg,
>
> I don't know about New South Wales, but I know of a few Micros up
> here in Queensland (Australian state, for all of you foreigners).
> One of them is "Cricket" which I built for Dr Paul Truscott a few
> years back. The other one I know of definitely is sailed in Brisbane
> by a very competetive dinghy sailor (NS14) who finds her sailing
> performance very satisfying. I've got photos of both boats, but I
> have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells me I'm
> not a member.
>
> Ross Lillistone
> have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells me I'mEver since Yahoo revised their photos system, or at least the last
> not a member.
> Ross Lillistone
time I checked, there is room available for new photos in all the
Yahoo Bolger groups. If 6 don't work, try another <g>. Also, there is
room available for Bolger tagged photos over at www.Flickr.com
Dear Greg,
I don't know about New South Wales, but I know of a few Micros up
here in Queensland (Australian state, for all of you foreigners).
One of them is "Cricket" which I built for Dr Paul Truscott a few
years back. The other one I know of definitely is sailed in Brisbane
by a very competetive dinghy sailor (NS14) who finds her sailing
performance very satisfying. I've got photos of both boats, but I
have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells me I'm
not a member.
Ross Lillistone
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@...> wrote:
I don't know about New South Wales, but I know of a few Micros up
here in Queensland (Australian state, for all of you foreigners).
One of them is "Cricket" which I built for Dr Paul Truscott a few
years back. The other one I know of definitely is sailed in Brisbane
by a very competetive dinghy sailor (NS14) who finds her sailing
performance very satisfying. I've got photos of both boats, but I
have no idea how to access Bolger 6, and when I try, it tells me I'm
not a member.
Ross Lillistone
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@...> wrote:
>file
> Hello all,
>
> Just thought that it may be a really good idea to start a regional
> photo record of Micros around, and as a start I have created a
> entitled NSW Micros in the Bolger 6 Files section.boat)
>
> Well, the pictures are few at present, one of Matilda Jean (our
> up in Port Stephens (north of Sydney, around 200 kms) and twoboats
> that are moored on Sydney Harbour. I only know about these twoboats
> from an email by the owner of one through this Discussion Group.I
> bet there are more Micros than these three in NSW but I didn'teven
> know about the two in Sydney - one of the real advantages of thiscoast
> group.
>
> There was a for sale advertisement for another on the far south
> of NSW some time ago and I'm sure there must be quite a few more.Flat
> Certainly there are a few in other states of the Australian
> Federation, South Australia being the most prominent due to Duck
> Wooden Boats. At least one more in Perth, Western Australia(again, a
> for sale ad in Duck Flat).email
>
> So where are you all? Please send us some pics, or at least an
> so that we can start to create a "register" - all very low-key,you
> understand. Why not a world-wide register of Micros, through thisBolger
> Group?
>
> Anyway, one of the three pics posted in the file NSW Micros in
> 6 is taken from a very long way away and simply shows the Micro onone
> it's mooring on Sydney Harbour (sort of, may be Lane Cove River if
> is being pedantic) Called Micro in a Haystack, for obviousreasons.
> But what a great pic taken in November? with the Jacarandas inbloom!
> The other is of a Micro moored just off the Sydney Suburb ofBalmain
> in front of the Balmain Sailing Club - not half a kilometre fromwhere
> I write this, as I need to spend quite a bit of time here inSydney,
> and I never knew it was there (the Micro, that is). More power to
> this Group!
>
> Best wishes to all
>
> Greg Flemming
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pindimarmicro" <greg@...> wrote:
Great idea. I hope all the "Microheads" can pick up on your energy
and keep it going. Perhaps at some point we might consider having a
spin-off discussion group, although I do not personally have the
necessary time to devote to it.
This might include in addition to the Bolger Micro series - as well
the various spin-off designs from Michalak, which are essentially
all one related class and philosophy. There is a lot of interest
that crosses over depending on individual preferences. For example
the lead pouring and keel challenges, and the various sailing rig
options.
Who knows we might even be able to set up an exchange program? I
would be willing to lend out mine and might even be capable of
putting up with a couple of Kiwis for a week or two:-)
Nels
>file
> Hello all,
>
> Just thought that it may be a really good idea to start a regional
> photo record of Micros around, and as a start I have created a
> entitled NSW Micros in the Bolger 6 Files section.Hi Greg,
>
Great idea. I hope all the "Microheads" can pick up on your energy
and keep it going. Perhaps at some point we might consider having a
spin-off discussion group, although I do not personally have the
necessary time to devote to it.
This might include in addition to the Bolger Micro series - as well
the various spin-off designs from Michalak, which are essentially
all one related class and philosophy. There is a lot of interest
that crosses over depending on individual preferences. For example
the lead pouring and keel challenges, and the various sailing rig
options.
Who knows we might even be able to set up an exchange program? I
would be willing to lend out mine and might even be capable of
putting up with a couple of Kiwis for a week or two:-)
Nels
Hello all,
Just thought that it may be a really good idea to start a regional
photo record of Micros around, and as a start I have created a file
entitled NSW Micros in the Bolger 6 Files section.
Well, the pictures are few at present, one of Matilda Jean (our boat)
up in Port Stephens (north of Sydney, around 200 kms) and two boats
that are moored on Sydney Harbour. I only know about these two boats
from an email by the owner of one through this Discussion Group. I
bet there are more Micros than these three in NSW but I didn't even
know about the two in Sydney - one of the real advantages of this
group.
There was a for sale advertisement for another on the far south coast
of NSW some time ago and I'm sure there must be quite a few more.
Certainly there are a few in other states of the Australian
Federation, South Australia being the most prominent due to Duck Flat
Wooden Boats. At least one more in Perth, Western Australia (again, a
for sale ad in Duck Flat).
So where are you all? Please send us some pics, or at least an email
so that we can start to create a "register" - all very low-key, you
understand. Why not a world-wide register of Micros, through this
Group?
Anyway, one of the three pics posted in the file NSW Micros in Bolger
6 is taken from a very long way away and simply shows the Micro on
it's mooring on Sydney Harbour (sort of, may be Lane Cove River if one
is being pedantic) Called Micro in a Haystack, for obvious reasons.
But what a great pic taken in November? with the Jacarandas in bloom!
The other is of a Micro moored just off the Sydney Suburb of Balmain
in front of the Balmain Sailing Club - not half a kilometre from where
I write this, as I need to spend quite a bit of time here in Sydney,
and I never knew it was there (the Micro, that is). More power to
this Group!
Best wishes to all
Greg Flemming
Just thought that it may be a really good idea to start a regional
photo record of Micros around, and as a start I have created a file
entitled NSW Micros in the Bolger 6 Files section.
Well, the pictures are few at present, one of Matilda Jean (our boat)
up in Port Stephens (north of Sydney, around 200 kms) and two boats
that are moored on Sydney Harbour. I only know about these two boats
from an email by the owner of one through this Discussion Group. I
bet there are more Micros than these three in NSW but I didn't even
know about the two in Sydney - one of the real advantages of this
group.
There was a for sale advertisement for another on the far south coast
of NSW some time ago and I'm sure there must be quite a few more.
Certainly there are a few in other states of the Australian
Federation, South Australia being the most prominent due to Duck Flat
Wooden Boats. At least one more in Perth, Western Australia (again, a
for sale ad in Duck Flat).
So where are you all? Please send us some pics, or at least an email
so that we can start to create a "register" - all very low-key, you
understand. Why not a world-wide register of Micros, through this
Group?
Anyway, one of the three pics posted in the file NSW Micros in Bolger
6 is taken from a very long way away and simply shows the Micro on
it's mooring on Sydney Harbour (sort of, may be Lane Cove River if one
is being pedantic) Called Micro in a Haystack, for obvious reasons.
But what a great pic taken in November? with the Jacarandas in bloom!
The other is of a Micro moored just off the Sydney Suburb of Balmain
in front of the Balmain Sailing Club - not half a kilometre from where
I write this, as I need to spend quite a bit of time here in Sydney,
and I never knew it was there (the Micro, that is). More power to
this Group!
Best wishes to all
Greg Flemming