Bolger Index (was Re: Wondervogel)
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>wrote:
> Repeat: 428 records currently in design database! Be great to haveAnd significant THREADS
> easily searchable references to photos, files, and links for just
> these few!
It would be a labourious task , I think, for someone to step up and
create some kind index text document. And to remain useful it would
need to be ongoing!
To spread the load, how about another specific yahoogroup
(perhaps "bolgerindex") being used by all members who could keep on
adding to the entries and so day by day create a directory to all
the other bolgergroups photos, files, and major threads for each
design. Its Links section likewise might be updated creating a
comprehensive web directory for Bolger . There would appear to be a
few problems with this format, and no doubt those more knowledgeable
in this area will see more: 1) How to keep such a directory in
order, say alphabetical, and not have it become a jumble over time(
among many questions: when is it appropriate to list a design by its
number, or name); 2) whose name? eg Surf/Crab Skiff, Long
Dory/Stretched Dory]; 3) The inability to ammend entries, except for
moderators and the member author and; 4) limited 20MB files storage.
I don't know enough IT stuff to say, but it occurs to me
that a bolger yahoogroup *database table* might do. If a single
database storage is insufficient then the index could be apportioned
between more. The table would need a number of columns, principally
of course, the design name or number. Other columns might be for: 2)
the name of the other group/s where a file or photo may be found; 3)
the initial message number of a *significant* thread about the
design; 4) any *significant* contact details concerning the design;
5) whether Building or Sailing; and so on.
Could just the FIRST COLUMN alphabetically/numerically listing the
design names and/or numbers in this group's Bolger Design List
database (428 RECORDS!) BE copied then PASTED into a new group
database as the first column? Call it, say, "All Bolgergroups
Designs Index"? Would some able person step up and try? Once set up
other members could then enter the details in the other columns at
their leisure after perusing any particular file or photo as their
fancy may take them. (Seems too easy, so I'm wondering about Murphy.)
The yahoogroup database approach has the advantages that any member
may add/ammend entries keeping it current, and it is easily
downloadable complete. For example, I just added to the Bolger
Design List for the "Sweet Pea" entry
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/database?
method=reportRows&tbl=3
For the "Sweet Pea" entry in an All Bolgergroups Designs Index there
might be for columns headed
DesignName,DesignNumber,FileTypebuilding/using,File@bolger'n',Photo@b
olger'n',#Thread,Contact,Links; such details respectively as
SweetPea,570,both,bolger'?',bolger'?',#573,?,
http://www.dejonghwoodcomposites.com/cape_split_peapod.htm
Maybe the info about whether building or using would best be entered
with the File@bolger'n' and Photo@bolger'n' details?
Repeat: 428 records currently in design database! Be great to have
easily searchable references to photos, files, and links for just
these few!
cheers
Graeme
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create some kind index text document. And to remain useful it would
need to be ongoing!
To spread the load, how about another specific yahoogroup
(perhaps "bolgerindex") being used by all members who could keep on
adding to the entries and so day by day create a directory to all
the other bolgergroups photos, files, and major threads for each
design. Its Links section likewise might be updated creating a
comprehensive web directory for Bolger . There would appear to be a
few problems with this format, and no doubt those more knowledgeable
in this area will see more: 1) How to keep such a directory in
order, say alphabetical, and not have it become a jumble over time(
among many questions: when is it appropriate to list a design by its
number, or name); 2) whose name? eg Surf/Crab Skiff, Long
Dory/Stretched Dory]; 3) The inability to ammend entries, except for
moderators and the member author and; 4) limited 20MB files storage.
I don't know enough IT stuff to say, but it occurs to me
that a bolger yahoogroup *database table* might do. If a single
database storage is insufficient then the index could be apportioned
between more. The table would need a number of columns, principally
of course, the design name or number. Other columns might be for: 2)
the name of the other group/s where a file or photo may be found; 3)
the initial message number of a *significant* thread about the
design; 4) any *significant* contact details concerning the design;
5) whether Building or Sailing; and so on.
Could just the FIRST COLUMN alphabetically/numerically listing the
design names and/or numbers in this group's Bolger Design List
database (428 RECORDS!) BE copied then PASTED into a new group
database as the first column? Call it, say, "All Bolgergroups
Designs Index"? Would some able person step up and try? Once set up
other members could then enter the details in the other columns at
their leisure after perusing any particular file or photo as their
fancy may take them. (Seems too easy, so I'm wondering about Murphy.)
The yahoogroup database approach has the advantages that any member
may add/ammend entries keeping it current, and it is easily
downloadable complete. For example, I just added to the Bolger
Design List for the "Sweet Pea" entry
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/database?
method=reportRows&tbl=3
For the "Sweet Pea" entry in an All Bolgergroups Designs Index there
might be for columns headed
DesignName,DesignNumber,FileTypebuilding/using,File@bolger'n',Photo@b
olger'n',#Thread,Contact,Links; such details respectively as
SweetPea,570,both,bolger'?',bolger'?',#573,?,
http://www.dejonghwoodcomposites.com/cape_split_peapod.htm
Maybe the info about whether building or using would best be entered
with the File@bolger'n' and Photo@bolger'n' details?
Repeat: 428 records currently in design database! Be great to have
easily searchable references to photos, files, and links for just
these few!
cheers
Graeme
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>Re: Wondervogel
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@> wrote:
> > Some volunteer could win my admiration for stepping up and
creating
> > an index of the files/photos stored on yahoo Bolger groups.
>
>
> I would love to win your admiration but I are a computer dud.
>
> One option might be to consider adding links to the photos or
> webisites from the relevant files at the cartoons only site.
>
> Another option might be to catagorize the designs into sizes or
> types and then create a separate yahoo group for each catagory. I
> think this is more or less standard procedure at most boat design
> websites.
>
> Also some groups have several assistant moderators as back-up
> helpers.
>
> It pains me that PCB&F are obviously losing a lot of business by
> being so inaccessable. JUst look at what Jim Michalak, John
Welsford
> and Paul Fisher are doing, just to mention three who's designs are
> of interest to me.
>
> Sure, PCB&F are going to leave a great heritage behind, but why
not
> make more of it accessible right now?
>
> A working partnership between Duckworks and MAIB with online
access
> to all the Bolger articles comes to mind.
>
> Boy wouldn't that be great?
>
> Nels
>