Re: Bolger Bartender Equivelent? IVB + The Thing
FREE Plans for a stunning fast , light Origami dinghy ,
a headturner everywhere , nice paintjob :-)
add seats and flotation and of you go with 10hp !!
a camouflage tent and she becomes a fast campcruiser !
http://www.svensons.com/boat/?p=MechanixIllustrated/TheThing
a headturner everywhere , nice paintjob :-)
add seats and flotation and of you go with 10hp !!
a camouflage tent and she becomes a fast campcruiser !
http://www.svensons.com/boat/?p=MechanixIllustrated/TheThing
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Puck III" <ben_azo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim , if you like the garvey , have a look at :
>
>http://invertedvboats.bravepages.com/HistoryInNZ.html
>
> the IVB or inverted V sure has proven to be fast and seaworthy,
> less hp are required , sure more stable and only little hours
> more to build . Let me know what you think :-)
>
> Old Ben
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "captainbws" <captainbws@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Ben.....Yes the weight is a consideration given I intend
to
> > beach often. A Caulkins builder in Bellingham WA offers to kit
the
> > framing in plywood......Over at the Bartender foru (Yahoo)
someone
> > wrote me they back theirs onto the beach to present the flat part
> of
> > the hull.....Given the complexity of construction, higher cost,
> > higher weight and deep v bow of the bartender, I think I'll go
with
> > the garvey......Thanks for the link. I did look....I hope you
> pursue
> > these design ideas for the world and yerself......My best, Tim---
> In
> >bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Puck III" <ben_azo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "captainbws" <captainbws@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi ya'll. Well I've moved back aboard my Nimble Nomad. Now
I'm
> > > looking
> > > > for a run around camp in it and beach it small boat. I've
> looked
> > > > seriously at Devlin's garvey cabined duck boat called Honker,
a
> > small
> > > > Tolman skiff, and the 19' Caulkins bartender. So far the
Honker
> > is
> > > > winning, because it is lighter and easy to beach, yet,
> according
> > to
> > > > Devlin, will stand up to a squall. The bartender would be
more
> > > > comfortable in rough weather than the garvey, I think. Anyone
> > know of
> > > a
> > > > Bolger design for a small cabined beachable motorboat?.....Tim
> > > =========
> > > Hi Tim ,as far as I know Bolger's "Snow Leopard" is the only
boat
> > > using the bartender planing hull form design rules ,
> > > you could have a look in the photoalbum ,
> > > Genevieve's Dory in the photosection of the :
> > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoryBoat/
> > > where you will find some plans and pics.
> > >
> > > I am convinced it is possible to redesign the 19' Bartender
> > > to more modern lighter plywood or an other material
scantlings ,
> > > eventualy even scale her down a few % ,
> > > use sideboards to have better sailing caracteristics and
> > > at the same time get rit of the intrusive centerboard.
> > > Even consider a larger rig , a lighter build permits
> > > to use some ballast when needed .
> > >
> > > You could end up with a real seaworthy little allround dory.
> > > Fast under sail , oar + real fast with modest hp ,
> > > interesting cause I do not see lower gass prices soon .
> > >
> > > Worth looking into ??
> > > You tell me :-)
> > > Old Ben
> > >
> >
>
Hi Tim , if you like the garvey , have a look at :
http://invertedvboats.bravepages.com/HistoryInNZ.html
the IVB or inverted V sure has proven to be fast and seaworthy,
less hp are required , sure more stable and only little hours
more to build . Let me know what you think :-)
Old Ben
http://invertedvboats.bravepages.com/HistoryInNZ.html
the IVB or inverted V sure has proven to be fast and seaworthy,
less hp are required , sure more stable and only little hours
more to build . Let me know what you think :-)
Old Ben
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "captainbws" <captainbws@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ben.....Yes the weight is a consideration given I intend to
> beach often. A Caulkins builder in Bellingham WA offers to kit the
> framing in plywood......Over at the Bartender foru (Yahoo) someone
> wrote me they back theirs onto the beach to present the flat part
of
> the hull.....Given the complexity of construction, higher cost,
> higher weight and deep v bow of the bartender, I think I'll go with
> the garvey......Thanks for the link. I did look....I hope you
pursue
> these design ideas for the world and yerself......My best, Tim---
In
>bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Puck III" <ben_azo@> wrote:
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "captainbws" <captainbws@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi ya'll. Well I've moved back aboard my Nimble Nomad. Now I'm
> > looking
> > > for a run around camp in it and beach it small boat. I've
looked
> > > seriously at Devlin's garvey cabined duck boat called Honker, a
> small
> > > Tolman skiff, and the 19' Caulkins bartender. So far the Honker
> is
> > > winning, because it is lighter and easy to beach, yet,
according
> to
> > > Devlin, will stand up to a squall. The bartender would be more
> > > comfortable in rough weather than the garvey, I think. Anyone
> know of
> > a
> > > Bolger design for a small cabined beachable motorboat?.....Tim
> > =========
> > Hi Tim ,as far as I know Bolger's "Snow Leopard" is the only boat
> > using the bartender planing hull form design rules ,
> > you could have a look in the photoalbum ,
> > Genevieve's Dory in the photosection of the :
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoryBoat/
> > where you will find some plans and pics.
> >
> > I am convinced it is possible to redesign the 19' Bartender
> > to more modern lighter plywood or an other material scantlings ,
> > eventualy even scale her down a few % ,
> > use sideboards to have better sailing caracteristics and
> > at the same time get rit of the intrusive centerboard.
> > Even consider a larger rig , a lighter build permits
> > to use some ballast when needed .
> >
> > You could end up with a real seaworthy little allround dory.
> > Fast under sail , oar + real fast with modest hp ,
> > interesting cause I do not see lower gass prices soon .
> >
> > Worth looking into ??
> > You tell me :-)
> > Old Ben
> >
>
Thanks Ben.....Yes the weight is a consideration given I intend to
beach often. A Caulkins builder in Bellingham WA offers to kit the
framing in plywood......Over at the Bartender foru (Yahoo) someone
wrote me they back theirs onto the beach to present the flat part of
the hull.....Given the complexity of construction, higher cost,
higher weight and deep v bow of the bartender, I think I'll go with
the garvey......Thanks for the link. I did look....I hope you pursue
these design ideas for the world and yerself......My best, Tim--- In
bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Puck III" <ben_azo@...> wrote:
beach often. A Caulkins builder in Bellingham WA offers to kit the
framing in plywood......Over at the Bartender foru (Yahoo) someone
wrote me they back theirs onto the beach to present the flat part of
the hull.....Given the complexity of construction, higher cost,
higher weight and deep v bow of the bartender, I think I'll go with
the garvey......Thanks for the link. I did look....I hope you pursue
these design ideas for the world and yerself......My best, Tim--- In
bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Puck III" <ben_azo@...> wrote:
>small
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "captainbws" <captainbws@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi ya'll. Well I've moved back aboard my Nimble Nomad. Now I'm
> looking
> > for a run around camp in it and beach it small boat. I've looked
> > seriously at Devlin's garvey cabined duck boat called Honker, a
> > Tolman skiff, and the 19' Caulkins bartender. So far the Honkeris
> > winning, because it is lighter and easy to beach, yet, accordingto
> > Devlin, will stand up to a squall. The bartender would be moreknow of
> > comfortable in rough weather than the garvey, I think. Anyone
> a
> > Bolger design for a small cabined beachable motorboat?.....Tim
> =========
> Hi Tim ,as far as I know Bolger's "Snow Leopard" is the only boat
> using the bartender planing hull form design rules ,
> you could have a look in the photoalbum ,
> Genevieve's Dory in the photosection of the :
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoryBoat/
> where you will find some plans and pics.
>
> I am convinced it is possible to redesign the 19' Bartender
> to more modern lighter plywood or an other material scantlings ,
> eventualy even scale her down a few % ,
> use sideboards to have better sailing caracteristics and
> at the same time get rit of the intrusive centerboard.
> Even consider a larger rig , a lighter build permits
> to use some ballast when needed .
>
> You could end up with a real seaworthy little allround dory.
> Fast under sail , oar + real fast with modest hp ,
> interesting cause I do not see lower gass prices soon .
>
> Worth looking into ??
> You tell me :-)
> Old Ben
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "captainbws" <captainbws@...> wrote:
Hi Tim ,as far as I know Bolger's "Snow Leopard" is the only boat
using the bartender planing hull form design rules ,
you could have a look in the photoalbum ,
Genevieve's Dory in the photosection of the :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoryBoat/
where you will find some plans and pics.
I am convinced it is possible to redesign the 19' Bartender
to more modern lighter plywood or an other material scantlings ,
eventualy even scale her down a few % ,
use sideboards to have better sailing caracteristics and
at the same time get rit of the intrusive centerboard.
Even consider a larger rig , a lighter build permits
to use some ballast when needed .
You could end up with a real seaworthy little allround dory.
Fast under sail , oar + real fast with modest hp ,
interesting cause I do not see lower gass prices soon .
Worth looking into ??
You tell me :-)
Old Ben
>looking
> Hi ya'll. Well I've moved back aboard my Nimble Nomad. Now I'm
> for a run around camp in it and beach it small boat. I've lookeda
> seriously at Devlin's garvey cabined duck boat called Honker, a small
> Tolman skiff, and the 19' Caulkins bartender. So far the Honker is
> winning, because it is lighter and easy to beach, yet, according to
> Devlin, will stand up to a squall. The bartender would be more
> comfortable in rough weather than the garvey, I think. Anyone know of
> Bolger design for a small cabined beachable motorboat?.....Tim=========
Hi Tim ,as far as I know Bolger's "Snow Leopard" is the only boat
using the bartender planing hull form design rules ,
you could have a look in the photoalbum ,
Genevieve's Dory in the photosection of the :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DoryBoat/
where you will find some plans and pics.
I am convinced it is possible to redesign the 19' Bartender
to more modern lighter plywood or an other material scantlings ,
eventualy even scale her down a few % ,
use sideboards to have better sailing caracteristics and
at the same time get rit of the intrusive centerboard.
Even consider a larger rig , a lighter build permits
to use some ballast when needed .
You could end up with a real seaworthy little allround dory.
Fast under sail , oar + real fast with modest hp ,
interesting cause I do not see lower gass prices soon .
Worth looking into ??
You tell me :-)
Old Ben
Hi ya'll. Well I've moved back aboard my Nimble Nomad. Now I'm looking
for a run around camp in it and beach it small boat. I've looked
seriously at Devlin's garvey cabined duck boat called Honker, a small
Tolman skiff, and the 19' Caulkins bartender. So far the Honker is
winning, because it is lighter and easy to beach, yet, according to
Devlin, will stand up to a squall. The bartender would be more
comfortable in rough weather than the garvey, I think. Anyone know of a
Bolger design for a small cabined beachable motorboat?.....Tim
for a run around camp in it and beach it small boat. I've looked
seriously at Devlin's garvey cabined duck boat called Honker, a small
Tolman skiff, and the 19' Caulkins bartender. So far the Honker is
winning, because it is lighter and easy to beach, yet, according to
Devlin, will stand up to a squall. The bartender would be more
comfortable in rough weather than the garvey, I think. Anyone know of a
Bolger design for a small cabined beachable motorboat?.....Tim