Re: Diablo Trailer
My guess is that the state is making sure that you don't try to
register a $30,000 boat as a $500 homebuilt and beat them out of the
sales tax. Thus the "inspections" where all they do is verify that it
truly looks like a home built boat.
Birdwatcher was a bargin in Florida. There was a nominal fee to get a
title, but no annual registration for a pure sailboat. I am sticking
with oar auxiliary on mine.
Doug
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<jon@...> wrote:
register a $30,000 boat as a $500 homebuilt and beat them out of the
sales tax. Thus the "inspections" where all they do is verify that it
truly looks like a home built boat.
Birdwatcher was a bargin in Florida. There was a nominal fee to get a
title, but no annual registration for a pure sailboat. I am sticking
with oar auxiliary on mine.
Doug
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<jon@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> > Bird watching fee, I may have pooed my pants.
> > Thanks for the laugh. I thought Washington State was bad.
> > I have often wondered what percentage of these menacing fees
> > actually make it back to the kitty, if you consider the cost of
> > collection, accounting, etc?
>
> My personal view is that it is mainly a jobs program and that any
> actual revenue realized above the cost of collecting it is gravy.
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
Hi Kevin,
actual revenue realized above the cost of collecting it is gravy.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> Bird watching fee, I may have pooed my pants.My personal view is that it is mainly a jobs program and that any
> Thanks for the laugh. I thought Washington State was bad.
> I have often wondered what percentage of these menacing fees
> actually make it back to the kitty, if you consider the cost of
> collection, accounting, etc?
actual revenue realized above the cost of collecting it is gravy.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
Bird watching fee, I may have pooed my pants.
Thanks for the laugh. I thought Washington State was bad.
I have often wondered what percentage of these menacing fees
actually make it back to the kitty, if you consider the cost of
collection, accounting, etc?
Good luck.
Oh, I installed one of the newer LED trailer light kits. I hope I
never have a trip delay with these.
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<jon@...> wrote:
Thanks for the laugh. I thought Washington State was bad.
I have often wondered what percentage of these menacing fees
actually make it back to the kitty, if you consider the cost of
collection, accounting, etc?
Good luck.
Oh, I installed one of the newer LED trailer light kits. I hope I
never have a trip delay with these.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography"
<jon@...> wrote:
>each
> Hi Kevin,
>
> > I left the 2 x 6 uncut at 8'. Fit the trailer perfectly.
> > I have never heard of a home built boat inspection.
> > I am interested in how much you are taxed for said inspection.
> > I would also like to know the boat building code for your state.
> > Good look and keep us abreast.
>
> It will cost me $25.25 to register the boat (under 20' length)
> year. There is apparently no extra charge for the inspection. Myyear,
> 23'-6" cat schooner costs $30.25 to register each year (20'-30').
> The $0.25 is a Colorado search and rescue tax charged to boaters,
> hunters, and fisherman. Since I will have two boats registered, a
> fishing license, and expect to get both deer and elk tags this
> I get to pay the search and rescue tax five times. They haven'tThere
> figured out how to charge the hikers and climbers, but I think
> they're on to the skiers who consume most of these resources.
> are also state parks pass fees (I think it's $70 for an annualpass),
> stamps to use state wildlife areas and trust lands, even if justsometimes),
> birdwatching ($10, $5 with a license), and if I want to fish the
> reservoirs on the north side of Pike's Peak (which I do
> it's $10 a crack to use the city-owned toll road. The fishingMakes
> license is $26.00 plus $5 for a second rod stamp. And of course
> there's the trailer registration at about $30 apiece yearly.
> the fish dinner pretty expensive when all is said and done.privilege
>
> My favorite nuisance tax so far has been paying $50 for the
> to lay down and cover a culvert in the ditch along the county roadmy
> property is off of so I can drive onto my land more easily. Thereonto
> were actually two inspections for this - one to make sure I put
> my "driveway" in an approved location (I thought from the road
> the property was a pretty good spot) and one after the culvert wasin
> place! Of course there was also the wood stove permit andthe
> inspection, which required me to burn a vacation day waiting for
> inspector (he finally showed at 1500 hrs., tapped his tape measureboat,
> against the flue pipe and left).
>
> I couldn't find anything about a boat building code in the
> regulations. Back in '93 when I registered my first homebuilt
> a Bolger Common Sense Skiff, I also had to get it inspected by thethat
> parks department. The guy rapped his knuckle a couple of times on
> the hull, asked about bending the plywood, said "nice boat" and
> was it. Another farce. I registered my cat schooner on-linein '03
> and had no inspection requirement. When I tried to do the samethis
> time, it wouldn't allow on-line first-time registration for anyboat,
> so the '03 experience was probably a loophole. I don't know ifthey
> inspect commercially manufactured boats the first time or not, butstate
> you now have to register in person. I tried to use my own VIN (I
> assigned it as 007, since it's my 7th hull), but was told the
> will assign an official 12-digit VIN following inspection. Andthen
> I have to get a metal plate made with this number engraved on it,the
> permanently attach it to the hull, place a duplicate marking of
> VIN in an unseen part of the boat, and on it goes...
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
Hi Kevin,
year. There is apparently no extra charge for the inspection. My
23'-6" cat schooner costs $30.25 to register each year (20'-30').
The $0.25 is a Colorado search and rescue tax charged to boaters,
hunters, and fisherman. Since I will have two boats registered, a
fishing license, and expect to get both deer and elk tags this year,
I get to pay the search and rescue tax five times. They haven't
figured out how to charge the hikers and climbers, but I think
they're on to the skiers who consume most of these resources. There
are also state parks pass fees (I think it's $70 for an annual pass),
stamps to use state wildlife areas and trust lands, even if just
birdwatching ($10, $5 with a license), and if I want to fish the
reservoirs on the north side of Pike's Peak (which I do sometimes),
it's $10 a crack to use the city-owned toll road. The fishing
license is $26.00 plus $5 for a second rod stamp. And of course
there's the trailer registration at about $30 apiece yearly. Makes
the fish dinner pretty expensive when all is said and done.
My favorite nuisance tax so far has been paying $50 for the privilege
to lay down and cover a culvert in the ditch along the county road my
property is off of so I can drive onto my land more easily. There
were actually two inspections for this - one to make sure I put
my "driveway" in an approved location (I thought from the road onto
the property was a pretty good spot) and one after the culvert was in
place! Of course there was also the wood stove permit and
inspection, which required me to burn a vacation day waiting for the
inspector (he finally showed at 1500 hrs., tapped his tape measure
against the flue pipe and left).
I couldn't find anything about a boat building code in the
regulations. Back in '93 when I registered my first homebuilt boat,
a Bolger Common Sense Skiff, I also had to get it inspected by the
parks department. The guy rapped his knuckle a couple of times on
the hull, asked about bending the plywood, said "nice boat" and that
was it. Another farce. I registered my cat schooner on-line in '03
and had no inspection requirement. When I tried to do the same this
time, it wouldn't allow on-line first-time registration for any boat,
so the '03 experience was probably a loophole. I don't know if they
inspect commercially manufactured boats the first time or not, but
you now have to register in person. I tried to use my own VIN (I
assigned it as 007, since it's my 7th hull), but was told the state
will assign an official 12-digit VIN following inspection. And then
I have to get a metal plate made with this number engraved on it,
permanently attach it to the hull, place a duplicate marking of the
VIN in an unseen part of the boat, and on it goes...
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> I left the 2 x 6 uncut at 8'. Fit the trailer perfectly.It will cost me $25.25 to register the boat (under 20' length) each
> I have never heard of a home built boat inspection.
> I am interested in how much you are taxed for said inspection.
> I would also like to know the boat building code for your state.
> Good look and keep us abreast.
year. There is apparently no extra charge for the inspection. My
23'-6" cat schooner costs $30.25 to register each year (20'-30').
The $0.25 is a Colorado search and rescue tax charged to boaters,
hunters, and fisherman. Since I will have two boats registered, a
fishing license, and expect to get both deer and elk tags this year,
I get to pay the search and rescue tax five times. They haven't
figured out how to charge the hikers and climbers, but I think
they're on to the skiers who consume most of these resources. There
are also state parks pass fees (I think it's $70 for an annual pass),
stamps to use state wildlife areas and trust lands, even if just
birdwatching ($10, $5 with a license), and if I want to fish the
reservoirs on the north side of Pike's Peak (which I do sometimes),
it's $10 a crack to use the city-owned toll road. The fishing
license is $26.00 plus $5 for a second rod stamp. And of course
there's the trailer registration at about $30 apiece yearly. Makes
the fish dinner pretty expensive when all is said and done.
My favorite nuisance tax so far has been paying $50 for the privilege
to lay down and cover a culvert in the ditch along the county road my
property is off of so I can drive onto my land more easily. There
were actually two inspections for this - one to make sure I put
my "driveway" in an approved location (I thought from the road onto
the property was a pretty good spot) and one after the culvert was in
place! Of course there was also the wood stove permit and
inspection, which required me to burn a vacation day waiting for the
inspector (he finally showed at 1500 hrs., tapped his tape measure
against the flue pipe and left).
I couldn't find anything about a boat building code in the
regulations. Back in '93 when I registered my first homebuilt boat,
a Bolger Common Sense Skiff, I also had to get it inspected by the
parks department. The guy rapped his knuckle a couple of times on
the hull, asked about bending the plywood, said "nice boat" and that
was it. Another farce. I registered my cat schooner on-line in '03
and had no inspection requirement. When I tried to do the same this
time, it wouldn't allow on-line first-time registration for any boat,
so the '03 experience was probably a loophole. I don't know if they
inspect commercially manufactured boats the first time or not, but
you now have to register in person. I tried to use my own VIN (I
assigned it as 007, since it's my 7th hull), but was told the state
will assign an official 12-digit VIN following inspection. And then
I have to get a metal plate made with this number engraved on it,
permanently attach it to the hull, place a duplicate marking of the
VIN in an unseen part of the boat, and on it goes...
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
I left the 2 x 6 uncut at 8'. Fit the trailer perfectly.
I have never heard of a home built boat inspection.
I am interested in how much you are taxed for said inspection.
I would also like to know the boat building code for your state.
Good look and keep us abreast.
Kevin
I have never heard of a home built boat inspection.
I am interested in how much you are taxed for said inspection.
I would also like to know the boat building code for your state.
Good look and keep us abreast.
Kevin
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From: adventures_in_astrophotography<mailto:jon@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:46 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo Trailer
Hi Kevin,
> I ended up putting A 2 x 6 down the middle, where the center rollers
> were. I topped the 2 x 6 with a 1/4" sheet of PDFE, the cutting
> board plastic. Diablo slides easily on this surface. I keep the side
> bunks carpeted.
Glad to hear that worked out for you. How long did you make the center
bunk?
> Your blue and white Diablo looks beautiful.
Thanks very much! I'm anxious to get it in the water, but the trailer
and motor have not yet appeared at the dealer. I also found out that I
have to get the boat inspected by the state parks department before
they'll register it. Who knew that the guy who checks fishing licenses
all day was also a certified marine surveyor?
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
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Hi Kevin,
bunk?
and motor have not yet appeared at the dealer. I also found out that I
have to get the boat inspected by the state parks department before
they'll register it. Who knew that the guy who checks fishing licenses
all day was also a certified marine surveyor?
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> I ended up putting A 2 x 6 down the middle, where the center rollersGlad to hear that worked out for you. How long did you make the center
> were. I topped the 2 x 6 with a 1/4" sheet of PDFE, the cutting
> board plastic. Diablo slides easily on this surface. I keep the side
> bunks carpeted.
bunk?
> Your blue and white Diablo looks beautiful.Thanks very much! I'm anxious to get it in the water, but the trailer
and motor have not yet appeared at the dealer. I also found out that I
have to get the boat inspected by the state parks department before
they'll register it. Who knew that the guy who checks fishing licenses
all day was also a certified marine surveyor?
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
Jon,
I ended up putting A 2 x 6 down the middle, where the center rollers
were. I topped the 2 x 6 with a 1/4" sheet of PDFE, the cutting
board plastic. Diablo slides easily on this surface. I keep the side
bunks carpeted.
Your blue and white Diablo looks beautiful.
Thanks for the tip on the center bunk.
Kevin
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I ended up putting A 2 x 6 down the middle, where the center rollers
were. I topped the 2 x 6 with a 1/4" sheet of PDFE, the cutting
board plastic. Diablo slides easily on this surface. I keep the side
bunks carpeted.
Your blue and white Diablo looks beautiful.
Thanks for the tip on the center bunk.
Kevin
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wrote:
>well.
> Thanks Jon.
> The rollers where a concern. I will try to do a center runner as
> Will make loading difficult, I would suspect.centered
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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> From: adventures_in_astrophotography<mailto:jon@...>
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:07 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo Trailer
>
>
> Hi Kevin
>
> > What have you found to be the best way
> > to set up a standard boat trailer for the 15' Diablo?
> > I have 2 astro turf covered 5'bunks and 1 fore and 1 aft
> > rollers. The trailer was used for a standard style aluminumboat,
> > with a roundish bottom, to give you a idea of what I have.want
> > Any pictures would be appreciated.
>
> Well, I've given up on finding a used trailer, and I just don't
> to deal with the hassle of unloading a crummy used boat if Ibought
> it cheap just to get the trailer. After pricing components forwith my
> making my own, the savings would only be a couple hundred bucks,
> which doesn't make up for the warranty, better looks, and likely
> better resale value in my view. So, somewhat reluctantly but
> better half's blessing, I'm going to order a new ShoreLand'rhttp://www.shorelandr.com/asp/t_boat_700.asp<http://www.shorelandr.co
> SLB14ATM, probably tomorrow. You can see the trailer here:
>
m/asp/t_boat_700.asp>
>the
> This trailer comes with two carpeted bunks and a roller under
> forward end of the keel area (or the deep vee on a productionboat).
> I plan to remove the roller and mount a third bunk right downthe
> middle to support the flat bottom of Diablo. The stock bunksare
> adjustable, and my plan is to have them support the bilge panelsjust
> below where they meet the topside panels, a structurally strongpart
> of the hull.opinion.
>
> I don't like the idea of rollers under the bottom, because they
> localize the stress on the wide bottom panel too much, in my
> I'll post photos on my website once I get the trailer.flogging dead horses
>
> Jon Kolb
> www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
>
>
>
>
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Thanks Jon.
The rollers where a concern. I will try to do a center runner as well.
Will make loading difficult, I would suspect.
Thanks,
Kevin
The rollers where a concern. I will try to do a center runner as well.
Will make loading difficult, I would suspect.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:07 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo Trailer
Hi Kevin
> What have you found to be the best way
> to set up a standard boat trailer for the 15' Diablo?
> I have 2 astro turf covered 5'bunks and 1 fore and 1 aft centered
> rollers. The trailer was used for a standard style aluminum boat,
> with a roundish bottom, to give you a idea of what I have.
> Any pictures would be appreciated.
Well, I've given up on finding a used trailer, and I just don't want
to deal with the hassle of unloading a crummy used boat if I bought
it cheap just to get the trailer. After pricing components for
making my own, the savings would only be a couple hundred bucks,
which doesn't make up for the warranty, better looks, and likely
better resale value in my view. So, somewhat reluctantly but with my
better half's blessing, I'm going to order a new ShoreLand'r
SLB14ATM, probably tomorrow. You can see the trailer here:
http://www.shorelandr.com/asp/t_boat_700.asp<http://www.shorelandr.com/asp/t_boat_700.asp>
This trailer comes with two carpeted bunks and a roller under the
forward end of the keel area (or the deep vee on a production boat).
I plan to remove the roller and mount a third bunk right down the
middle to support the flat bottom of Diablo. The stock bunks are
adjustable, and my plan is to have them support the bilge panels just
below where they meet the topside panels, a structurally strong part
of the hull.
I don't like the idea of rollers under the bottom, because they
localize the stress on the wide bottom panel too much, in my opinion.
I'll post photos on my website once I get the trailer.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
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Hi Kevin
to deal with the hassle of unloading a crummy used boat if I bought
it cheap just to get the trailer. After pricing components for
making my own, the savings would only be a couple hundred bucks,
which doesn't make up for the warranty, better looks, and likely
better resale value in my view. So, somewhat reluctantly but with my
better half's blessing, I'm going to order a new ShoreLand'r
SLB14ATM, probably tomorrow. You can see the trailer here:
http://www.shorelandr.com/asp/t_boat_700.asp
This trailer comes with two carpeted bunks and a roller under the
forward end of the keel area (or the deep vee on a production boat).
I plan to remove the roller and mount a third bunk right down the
middle to support the flat bottom of Diablo. The stock bunks are
adjustable, and my plan is to have them support the bilge panels just
below where they meet the topside panels, a structurally strong part
of the hull.
I don't like the idea of rollers under the bottom, because they
localize the stress on the wide bottom panel too much, in my opinion.
I'll post photos on my website once I get the trailer.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
> What have you found to be the best wayWell, I've given up on finding a used trailer, and I just don't want
> to set up a standard boat trailer for the 15' Diablo?
> I have 2 astro turf covered 5'bunks and 1 fore and 1 aft centered
> rollers. The trailer was used for a standard style aluminum boat,
> with a roundish bottom, to give you a idea of what I have.
> Any pictures would be appreciated.
to deal with the hassle of unloading a crummy used boat if I bought
it cheap just to get the trailer. After pricing components for
making my own, the savings would only be a couple hundred bucks,
which doesn't make up for the warranty, better looks, and likely
better resale value in my view. So, somewhat reluctantly but with my
better half's blessing, I'm going to order a new ShoreLand'r
SLB14ATM, probably tomorrow. You can see the trailer here:
http://www.shorelandr.com/asp/t_boat_700.asp
This trailer comes with two carpeted bunks and a roller under the
forward end of the keel area (or the deep vee on a production boat).
I plan to remove the roller and mount a third bunk right down the
middle to support the flat bottom of Diablo. The stock bunks are
adjustable, and my plan is to have them support the bilge panels just
below where they meet the topside panels, a structurally strong part
of the hull.
I don't like the idea of rollers under the bottom, because they
localize the stress on the wide bottom panel too much, in my opinion.
I'll post photos on my website once I get the trailer.
Jon Kolb
www.kolbsadventures.com/boatbuilding_index.htm
What have you found to be the best way
to set up a standard boat trailer for the 15' Diablo?
I have 2 astro turf covered 5'bunks and 1 fore and 1 aft centered
rollers. The trailer was used for a standard style aluminum boat,
with a roundish bottom, to give you a idea of what I have.
Any pictures would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin
to set up a standard boat trailer for the 15' Diablo?
I have 2 astro turf covered 5'bunks and 1 fore and 1 aft centered
rollers. The trailer was used for a standard style aluminum boat,
with a roundish bottom, to give you a idea of what I have.
Any pictures would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin