Re: A different take on a family boat - Oldshoe?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
her new owner from Seattle. Four adults is a full load for Oldshoe.
There is ample room to sprawl in her large cockpit. I have overnighted
a few times with a tarp over the sprit boom. The two piece floorbords
come up to make a queen size berth flat. This is not a racing dinghy.
She can stand up to a good breeze but tacks sedately, like a little ship.
If you should decide to build Oldshoe please feel free to email me for
advise, counsel, encouragement etc.
Joe T
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
>The photos were taken in San Diego Bay when I turned the boat over to
> Taking another approach, if we eliminate the overnight requirement,
> I wonder if Oldshoe might fit the bill? There are a some neat
> pictures of Oldshoe in the Bolger6 Files (members) here:
>
>http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/photos/browse/efcb
>
her new owner from Seattle. Four adults is a full load for Oldshoe.
There is ample room to sprawl in her large cockpit. I have overnighted
a few times with a tarp over the sprit boom. The two piece floorbords
come up to make a queen size berth flat. This is not a racing dinghy.
She can stand up to a good breeze but tacks sedately, like a little ship.
If you should decide to build Oldshoe please feel free to email me for
advise, counsel, encouragement etc.
Joe T
Ah, that's where it was, thanks!
As for the Birdwatcher concept, I am just not sure I really want all those windows in the
Mediterranean sun. I have a set of Michalak IMB plans, but now that go back to them, I just
can't get excited about them. I think it's down to Micro or Oldshoe if I build it myself. All
bets are off if I have it built, I'll just have to see what the locals are used to.
Thanks!
Matthew
As for the Birdwatcher concept, I am just not sure I really want all those windows in the
Mediterranean sun. I have a set of Michalak IMB plans, but now that go back to them, I just
can't get excited about them. I think it's down to Micro or Oldshoe if I build it myself. All
bets are off if I have it built, I'll just have to see what the locals are used to.
Thanks!
Matthew
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"<owlnmole@...> wrote:
>But the MAIB Oldshoe article seems to have disappeared, though IMatthew,
> could swear it was here a few days ago:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Oldshoe/
> If anyone still has it, could you repost it?
>Matthew in Luxembourg
"the design is an obvious candidate for a birdwatcher top.."(PCB&F)!!
Maybe you could ask? The MAIB article is in BolgerCartoon Files
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BolgerCartoons/files/Oldshoe%20Sailboat/
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
When doing the comparison on the Micros I was considering Oldshoe,
because it really has a more secure and larger cockpit than her
larger sisters. But the overnight requirement did not fit well.
Two things to consider regarding young kids:
1. The porta potty location is not very private.
2. Kids often fall asleep when out sailing and not sure where you
would be able to do that on an Oldshoe.
I would also want to have a place where they could get out of the
sun where it is a bit cooler, and I think the cabin in Micro would
be handy for that.
If towing is a priority then I would lean more towards Birdwatcher.
I have the plans for Oldshoe and BirdwatcherI that I will never use
if you are interested. Mail me off-post if you want them. Never been
used and bought legally.
Am going to sell off some of my plans so I can buy others:-P
Nels
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
>I
> Thanks to all for their feedback on a small family boat for
> daysailing and the occasional overnight, especially the pros and
> cons of Micro vs. Long Micro. I am still undecided there, though
> am leaning towards Micro because 1) my 2.0l, 4-cylinder minivanhas
> limited towing capacity, 2) I already have the plans and 3) I'verequirement,
> always wanted to build one!
>
> Taking another approach, if we eliminate the overnight
> I wonder if Oldshoe might fit the bill? There are a some neatHi,
> pictures of Oldshoe in the Bolger6 Files (members) here:
When doing the comparison on the Micros I was considering Oldshoe,
because it really has a more secure and larger cockpit than her
larger sisters. But the overnight requirement did not fit well.
Two things to consider regarding young kids:
1. The porta potty location is not very private.
2. Kids often fall asleep when out sailing and not sure where you
would be able to do that on an Oldshoe.
I would also want to have a place where they could get out of the
sun where it is a bit cooler, and I think the cabin in Micro would
be handy for that.
If towing is a priority then I would lean more towards Birdwatcher.
I have the plans for Oldshoe and BirdwatcherI that I will never use
if you are interested. Mail me off-post if you want them. Never been
used and bought legally.
Am going to sell off some of my plans so I can buy others:-P
Nels
Thanks to all for their feedback on a small family boat for
daysailing and the occasional overnight, especially the pros and
cons of Micro vs. Long Micro. I am still undecided there, though I
am leaning towards Micro because 1) my 2.0l, 4-cylinder minivan has
limited towing capacity, 2) I already have the plans and 3) I've
always wanted to build one!
Taking another approach, if we eliminate the overnight requirement,
I wonder if Oldshoe might fit the bill? There are a some neat
pictures of Oldshoe in the Bolger6 Files (members) here:
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/photos/browse/efcb
And a nice article on the Square Boats site here:
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/oldshoe.htm
But the MAIB Oldshoe article seems to have disappeared, though I
could swear it was here a few days ago:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Oldshoe/
If anyone still has it, could you repost it?
Compared to Micro, Oldshoe would be smaller, quicker to build,
cheaper, and easier to handle, especially for trailering and
launching. The photos seem to show four adults in relative comfort,
so I think it would do for two adults and three small children.
In warmer months, some sort of shade would be nice to be able to
take a break from the sun, especially for the little ones. A
removable canvas dodger forward, a bit like that used on the Catfish
beach crusier, might work:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Catfish%
20Beachcruiser/catfishmodel.jpg
I am sure we could arrange it for a rustic overnight camping out for
a couple without the kids, or more likely, me and my oldest.
I have some pleasant "Swallows and Amazons" adventures going through
my head already.
Thoughts?
Matthew in Luxembourg
daysailing and the occasional overnight, especially the pros and
cons of Micro vs. Long Micro. I am still undecided there, though I
am leaning towards Micro because 1) my 2.0l, 4-cylinder minivan has
limited towing capacity, 2) I already have the plans and 3) I've
always wanted to build one!
Taking another approach, if we eliminate the overnight requirement,
I wonder if Oldshoe might fit the bill? There are a some neat
pictures of Oldshoe in the Bolger6 Files (members) here:
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/photos/browse/efcb
And a nice article on the Square Boats site here:
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/oldshoe.htm
But the MAIB Oldshoe article seems to have disappeared, though I
could swear it was here a few days ago:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Oldshoe/
If anyone still has it, could you repost it?
Compared to Micro, Oldshoe would be smaller, quicker to build,
cheaper, and easier to handle, especially for trailering and
launching. The photos seem to show four adults in relative comfort,
so I think it would do for two adults and three small children.
In warmer months, some sort of shade would be nice to be able to
take a break from the sun, especially for the little ones. A
removable canvas dodger forward, a bit like that used on the Catfish
beach crusier, might work:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Catfish%
20Beachcruiser/catfishmodel.jpg
I am sure we could arrange it for a rustic overnight camping out for
a couple without the kids, or more likely, me and my oldest.
I have some pleasant "Swallows and Amazons" adventures going through
my head already.
Thoughts?
Matthew in Luxembourg