Re: Modified Oldshoe pics
Here:http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger6/photos
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...>
wrote:
> I've transferred the pic to Bolger6 Oldshoe photo album.
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lakepepinmollyblue" <barryhill@...>Hi Bob,
>wrote:
>...and, without time to work out the balance of a different rig,
>advised that raising the main by lengthening the mast a foot would
>give clearance and not adversely affect balance. One proposed rig
>was the "Supermouse" gaff....
Good news. Thanks for posting.
Although maybe not the best for a small, topped boat, the dipping
lug should match up well with Oldshoe. The stability of Oldshoe
ought allow one to master the rig without too much anxiety. In an
open or birdwatchered Oldshoe flying a big single sail I'd think the
mast could be stepped at the front of the cockpit. To provide more
versatility and split the rig up between a few sails I can see an
Oldshoe under the Flobart rig from northern France. These small
boats always seem to remind me of Oldshoe, sans salient keel.
Here at Nautic Aspect at the page bottom:
http://www.nauticaspect.com/Inhoud_EN.htm
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
it at greater resolution (42kb only) in a file someplace, if needed?
Matthew, sadly, various Oldshoe groups seem to go dormant after a
short while, however others have joined there in the last few days.
The other pics there are in a few places elsewhere on the net and
you would probably have seen them. The launching of the
decked "Danidoo" was posted here by Mr Watts about 2 years ago. He
has not posted again and a week or so later his webpage went down. I
would have loved to hear a report of her performance in use. Her
second owner had her about a year or more, and she is probably now
sold along with an unused Honda OB.
Have you seen this lovely flamingo-pink, wishbone boomed, cuddied,
cabined one? pp 3,4,6
www.smallboatforum.com/PDFfiles/kokopelli2003.pdf
Lots'a room and shade.
A tunnel tent on hoops? stored up against the forward bulkhead, with
access to storage through the bulkhead? Erected in moments -
something like the Dinghy Cruising Association's "Roamer" tent.
Graeme
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
>Graeme, the Oldshoe group seems to be dormant (one message postedI've transferred the pic to Bolger6 Oldshoe photo album. I could put
>in several years, and my request to join has gone unanswered for
>several days). Maybe you could copy the photos of the modified
>Oldshoe to one of the Bolger storage groups (I think we're on
>Bolger7) so we could access them?
it at greater resolution (42kb only) in a file someplace, if needed?
Matthew, sadly, various Oldshoe groups seem to go dormant after a
short while, however others have joined there in the last few days.
The other pics there are in a few places elsewhere on the net and
you would probably have seen them. The launching of the
decked "Danidoo" was posted here by Mr Watts about 2 years ago. He
has not posted again and a week or so later his webpage went down. I
would have loved to hear a report of her performance in use. Her
second owner had her about a year or more, and she is probably now
sold along with an unused Honda OB.
Have you seen this lovely flamingo-pink, wishbone boomed, cuddied,
cabined one? pp 3,4,6
www.smallboatforum.com/PDFfiles/kokopelli2003.pdf
Lots'a room and shade.
> (and I would try to live without it first, just a canvas dogder orsomething light) > Cheers,
A tunnel tent on hoops? stored up against the forward bulkhead, with
access to storage through the bulkhead? Erected in moments -
something like the Dinghy Cruising Association's "Roamer" tent.
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lakepepinmollyblue" <barryhill@...> wrote:
Nels:-)
>Meanwhile, saving for
> epoxy to finish the "Box", and plans for "Old". Is there a patternI see a Superbrick in your future!
> here? Where does it go?
> Bob
Nels:-)
Hello to all. I'm new to the group and haven't posted till this
discussion caught my interest. Have nearly finished "Shoebox"
and "Oldshoe" is next. With my inquiry to Bolger about plans I sent
a sketch of a removable top and a couple of rig proposals. He
replied within a week. So nice to have heroes that aren't made of
straw! To the point, he approved my "topper" with a comment
about "transparency" and, without time to work out the balance of a
different rig, advised that raising the main by lengthening the mast
a foot would give clearance and not adversely affect balance. One
proposed rig was the "Supermouse" gaff. He also mentioned that that
design is now named "House Mouse". Do I smell Hollywood lawyers? My
cabin is a tab and slot arrangement to an inner rail (inwale, I
suppose) and bolted to seats fore and aft. By raising the outer
portions of the aft seat as sort of bridge decks I think I can make
room for my feet and lie down. We'll see. Helps that I'm small and
not at all claustrophobic! I have seen the decked over version
somewhere, but haven't found any with tops. Meanwhile, saving for
epoxy to finish the "Box", and plans for "Old". Is there a pattern
here? Where does it go?
Bob
discussion caught my interest. Have nearly finished "Shoebox"
and "Oldshoe" is next. With my inquiry to Bolger about plans I sent
a sketch of a removable top and a couple of rig proposals. He
replied within a week. So nice to have heroes that aren't made of
straw! To the point, he approved my "topper" with a comment
about "transparency" and, without time to work out the balance of a
different rig, advised that raising the main by lengthening the mast
a foot would give clearance and not adversely affect balance. One
proposed rig was the "Supermouse" gaff. He also mentioned that that
design is now named "House Mouse". Do I smell Hollywood lawyers? My
cabin is a tab and slot arrangement to an inner rail (inwale, I
suppose) and bolted to seats fore and aft. By raising the outer
portions of the aft seat as sort of bridge decks I think I can make
room for my feet and lie down. We'll see. Helps that I'm small and
not at all claustrophobic! I have seen the decked over version
somewhere, but haven't found any with tops. Meanwhile, saving for
epoxy to finish the "Box", and plans for "Old". Is there a pattern
here? Where does it go?
Bob
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
> <owlnmole@> wrote:
> > forwared cockpit might fit the bill, too.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> I thought I responded to this but it seems to have disappeared.
>
> Bolger mentions a removeable Birdwatcher type top with an open
slot
> in the roof.
>
> Supermouse which is described in BWAOM has such a topper I would
> suggest. Looks like a truck topper:-)
>
> In fact Supermouse has almost as much interior space as Oldshoe
and
> requires no lead pouring. Build it stripper method for both the
hull
> and topper.
>
> Nels
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "The Peillet-Long Family"
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
Bolger mentions a removeable Birdwatcher type top with an open slot
in the roof.
Supermouse which is described in BWAOM has such a topper I would
suggest. Looks like a truck topper:-)
In fact Supermouse has almost as much interior space as Oldshoe and
requires no lead pouring. Build it stripper method for both the hull
and topper.
Nels
<owlnmole@...> wrote:
> forwared cockpit might fit the bill, too.I thought I responded to this but it seems to have disappeared.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
Bolger mentions a removeable Birdwatcher type top with an open slot
in the roof.
Supermouse which is described in BWAOM has such a topper I would
suggest. Looks like a truck topper:-)
In fact Supermouse has almost as much interior space as Oldshoe and
requires no lead pouring. Build it stripper method for both the hull
and topper.
Nels
Graeme, the Oldshoe group seems to be dormant (one message posted in several years,
and my request to join has gone unanswered for several days). Maybe you could copy the
photos of the modified Oldshoe to one of the Bolger storage groups (I think we're on
Bolger7) so we could access them?
One question I have, since someone earlier mentioned a modified Oldshoe with a 5' or 5'
6" cabin--why? Unless you are unsually short, you've given up all that cockpit space for a
cabin that you can't lie down in. Personally, if I were to put on a little cuddy (and I would
try to live without it first, just a canvas dogder or something light) it would be along the
lines of the cuddies on small catboats--just dry storage and enough room to use the potty
without being in the public eye, perhaps as little as 3'. A removable cuddy top over the
forwared cockpit might fit the bill, too.
Cheers,
Matthew
and my request to join has gone unanswered for several days). Maybe you could copy the
photos of the modified Oldshoe to one of the Bolger storage groups (I think we're on
Bolger7) so we could access them?
One question I have, since someone earlier mentioned a modified Oldshoe with a 5' or 5'
6" cabin--why? Unless you are unsually short, you've given up all that cockpit space for a
cabin that you can't lie down in. Personally, if I were to put on a little cuddy (and I would
try to live without it first, just a canvas dogder or something light) it would be along the
lines of the cuddies on small catboats--just dry storage and enough room to use the potty
without being in the public eye, perhaps as little as 3'. A removable cuddy top over the
forwared cockpit might fit the bill, too.
Cheers,
Matthew
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "graeme19121984" <graeme19121984@...> wrote:
>
> >--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, longbaymarine@ wrote:
> > Oldshoe at 11' 7" is truly the biggest 12 footer you'll ever see
> >but not simple to build. The hull lends itself to a multitude of
> >design modifications,
>
> > my Oldshoe is being built with a small cabin, 5' 4" long by 5'wide
> >max. This is accomplished by raising the second bulkhead ( from the
> >bow transom) to 6 inches above the sheer line.....
>
> Hi Dayton,
>
> Could you post some pictures of your cabined Oldshoe? I'm sure Lots
> of folks would be very interested to see them
>
> Have you seen the flush decked/cabined Oldshoe "Danidoo" over in
> BolgerOldshoe group photos? Here:
>
>http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/BolgerOldshoe/photos/view/c65a?b=5
>
>http://tinyurl.com/q3ak7
>
> Danidoo was recently advertised for sale in the Personal Trading
> Post by her second owner. He said it had never been in the water!
> (that's what the first owner told him, and he was genuinely
> surprised when I told him that on the net there were photos of her
> in the water ) He also said it was similar to one that crossed the
> Tasman Sea around a decade ago. If true it's the first I've heard of
> it.
>
> cheers
> Graeme
>
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, longbaymarine@... wrote:Hi Dayton,
> Oldshoe at 11' 7" is truly the biggest 12 footer you'll ever see
>but not simple to build. The hull lends itself to a multitude of
>design modifications,
> my Oldshoe is being built with a small cabin, 5' 4" long by 5'wide
>max. This is accomplished by raising the second bulkhead ( from the
>bow transom) to 6 inches above the sheer line.....
Could you post some pictures of your cabined Oldshoe? I'm sure Lots
of folks would be very interested to see them
Have you seen the flush decked/cabined Oldshoe "Danidoo" over in
BolgerOldshoe group photos? Here:
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/BolgerOldshoe/photos/view/c65a?b=5
http://tinyurl.com/q3ak7
Danidoo was recently advertised for sale in the Personal Trading
Post by her second owner. He said it had never been in the water!
(that's what the first owner told him, and he was genuinely
surprised when I told him that on the net there were photos of her
in the water ) He also said it was similar to one that crossed the
Tasman Sea around a decade ago. If true it's the first I've heard of
it.
cheers
Graeme
Oldshoe at 11' 7" is truly the biggest 12 footer you'll ever see but not
simple to build. The hull lends itself to a multitude of design modifications,
my Oldshoe is being built with a small cabin, 5' 4" long by 5' wide max. This
is accomplished by raising the second bulkhead ( from the bow transom) to 6
inches above the sheer line. The rear of the open cabin ending 14 inches from
the footwell end.
If the cabin is built fully enclosed this will leave an outside
footwell 14" x 24" wide 12" deep. A 20" square hatch mounted on the forward part of
the cabin gives you waist high safety while standing inside the cabin for
tending the mainsail and anchoring.
Built as drawn the hull should weigh 450 lbs. I've doubled and tripled
the scantlings and with the cabin my Oldshoe will weigh about 650 lbs.
Mr. Bolger has a winner with the Oldshoe and Micro designs, very
impressive small boats!
Dayton Altman
Long Bay Marine
Boatbuilding
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simple to build. The hull lends itself to a multitude of design modifications,
my Oldshoe is being built with a small cabin, 5' 4" long by 5' wide max. This
is accomplished by raising the second bulkhead ( from the bow transom) to 6
inches above the sheer line. The rear of the open cabin ending 14 inches from
the footwell end.
If the cabin is built fully enclosed this will leave an outside
footwell 14" x 24" wide 12" deep. A 20" square hatch mounted on the forward part of
the cabin gives you waist high safety while standing inside the cabin for
tending the mainsail and anchoring.
Built as drawn the hull should weigh 450 lbs. I've doubled and tripled
the scantlings and with the cabin my Oldshoe will weigh about 650 lbs.
Mr. Bolger has a winner with the Oldshoe and Micro designs, very
impressive small boats!
Dayton Altman
Long Bay Marine
Boatbuilding
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