To Nels, everyone - Re: Lestat
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@...> wrote:
Hmmm, Newcastle Brown Ale. Haven't tried that. Nor the Ruff Red stuff
that Roger Keyes mentions. I must admit I have done some sailing while
on the hard, below decks in Lestat with the prairie winds rocking us
into dreamland:-)
Presently Lestat is under cover in my "new" shop in Pritchard B.C. and
is getting a complete sanding down and repaint and then has to get
loaded up on the trailer and transferred to his new cradle at the next
haul-out.
Last Spring we had a sudden hot spell while the boat cover was still in
place and it got so hot that some of the paint began to crack and even
had some of the underlying grain from the MDO begin to print through.
Not much of a problem but is caused a great deal of dismay. The port
side was facing south and that is what received the damage and the
starboard side is fine and dandy. But at the same time as repairing the
damage I decided to redo the entire hull, spars and so on.
The river outside my door is almost at peak flood stage right now and I
have some options to keep me busy until Lestat can finally hit the
water.
Right now I have to get the yard in shape and head back to Dog River
for another load. Actually going to bring some furniture next time:-)
Nels
>Hi Tony,
> --- In bolger@
>
> I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe
> rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my
> sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin,
> and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals,
> pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
>
> >
> > (Sorry, Peter. No offense? The alliteration seduced me. ;-D
> >
> > I am sooooooooo jealous!
> >
> > Tony.
>
Hmmm, Newcastle Brown Ale. Haven't tried that. Nor the Ruff Red stuff
that Roger Keyes mentions. I must admit I have done some sailing while
on the hard, below decks in Lestat with the prairie winds rocking us
into dreamland:-)
Presently Lestat is under cover in my "new" shop in Pritchard B.C. and
is getting a complete sanding down and repaint and then has to get
loaded up on the trailer and transferred to his new cradle at the next
haul-out.
Last Spring we had a sudden hot spell while the boat cover was still in
place and it got so hot that some of the paint began to crack and even
had some of the underlying grain from the MDO begin to print through.
Not much of a problem but is caused a great deal of dismay. The port
side was facing south and that is what received the damage and the
starboard side is fine and dandy. But at the same time as repairing the
damage I decided to redo the entire hull, spars and so on.
The river outside my door is almost at peak flood stage right now and I
have some options to keep me busy until Lestat can finally hit the
water.
Right now I have to get the yard in shape and head back to Dog River
for another load. Actually going to bring some furniture next time:-)
Nels
ROTFL!
- Cheers, Peter ;-D
Peter Lenihan <peterlenihan@...> wrote:
--- In bolger@
I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe
rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my
sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin,
and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals,
pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
With my thick booze hardened skin,I'm almost at the point where I
am impossible to offend.Our cold winters help some too in keeping
things hard and tough :-)
I have been known to do exactly what you descibe above while
LESTAT snoozed happily at her quay! In fact, I think he enjoyed this
far more then the manifold times I would do the same thing while he
was on his craddle.Hmmmmm....come to think of it,I've even done it
while underway and at anchor!
I fear dear Nels is cheating himself from some wonderful moments
where LESTAT could ever so gently rock him off to another one of his
erotic boat dreams.You know the ones I'm talking about," If I took a
LONG MICRO and stretched her out to a Martha Jane and then added the
leeboards of an AS-29 and the pilot house from the Navigator while
replacing the rig with that of a His and Hers Schooner I might just
be able to use her on the Mackenzie River......with a yuloh" :-D
Happy Times indeed!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,busy cheating himself while sneaking away time on the
computer at work..yikes!.....
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- Cheers, Peter ;-D
Peter Lenihan <peterlenihan@...> wrote:
--- In bolger@
I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe
rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my
sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin,
and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals,
pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
>Tony,
> (Sorry, Peter. No offense? The alliteration seduced me. ;-D
>
> I am sooooooooo jealous!
>
> Tony.
With my thick booze hardened skin,I'm almost at the point where I
am impossible to offend.Our cold winters help some too in keeping
things hard and tough :-)
I have been known to do exactly what you descibe above while
LESTAT snoozed happily at her quay! In fact, I think he enjoyed this
far more then the manifold times I would do the same thing while he
was on his craddle.Hmmmmm....come to think of it,I've even done it
while underway and at anchor!
I fear dear Nels is cheating himself from some wonderful moments
where LESTAT could ever so gently rock him off to another one of his
erotic boat dreams.You know the ones I'm talking about," If I took a
LONG MICRO and stretched her out to a Martha Jane and then added the
leeboards of an AS-29 and the pilot house from the Navigator while
replacing the rig with that of a His and Hers Schooner I might just
be able to use her on the Mackenzie River......with a yuloh" :-D
Happy Times indeed!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,busy cheating himself while sneaking away time on the
computer at work..yikes!.....
>dead horses
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--- In bolger@
I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe
rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my
sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin,
and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals,
pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
With my thick booze hardened skin,I'm almost at the point where I
am impossible to offend.Our cold winters help some too in keeping
things hard and tough :-)
I have been known to do exactly what you descibe above while
LESTAT snoozed happily at her quay! In fact, I think he enjoyed this
far more then the manifold times I would do the same thing while he
was on his craddle.Hmmmmm....come to think of it,I've even done it
while underway and at anchor!
I fear dear Nels is cheating himself from some wonderful moments
where LESTAT could ever so gently rock him off to another one of his
erotic boat dreams.You know the ones I'm talking about," If I took a
LONG MICRO and stretched her out to a Martha Jane and then added the
leeboards of an AS-29 and the pilot house from the Navigator while
replacing the rig with that of a His and Hers Schooner I might just
be able to use her on the Mackenzie River......with a yuloh" :-D
Happy Times indeed!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,busy cheating himself while sneaking away time on the
computer at work..yikes!.....
I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe
rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my
sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin,
and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals,
pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
>Tony,
> (Sorry, Peter. No offense? The alliteration seduced me. ;-D
>
> I am sooooooooo jealous!
>
> Tony.
With my thick booze hardened skin,I'm almost at the point where I
am impossible to offend.Our cold winters help some too in keeping
things hard and tough :-)
I have been known to do exactly what you descibe above while
LESTAT snoozed happily at her quay! In fact, I think he enjoyed this
far more then the manifold times I would do the same thing while he
was on his craddle.Hmmmmm....come to think of it,I've even done it
while underway and at anchor!
I fear dear Nels is cheating himself from some wonderful moments
where LESTAT could ever so gently rock him off to another one of his
erotic boat dreams.You know the ones I'm talking about," If I took a
LONG MICRO and stretched her out to a Martha Jane and then added the
leeboards of an AS-29 and the pilot house from the Navigator while
replacing the rig with that of a His and Hers Schooner I might just
be able to use her on the Mackenzie River......with a yuloh" :-D
Happy Times indeed!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,busy cheating himself while sneaking away time on the
computer at work..yikes!.....
>dead horses
>
>
>
>
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> (The Birdwatcher - sorry, can't remember the builder's name off-hand - with the painted details on the interior panels and transom - so cool! Must look it out again)- Not the transom - obviously! Must look it out again!
Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...> wrote:
Nels <arvent@...> wrote: --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
wrote:
>>plucked some ballpark figures from the air as a demonstration. Having
> Regarding the financial outlay, I'm sure you're right, I just
said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK;
suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey!
Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is
also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living
relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know
about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a while,
then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be. As I'm
getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial largess of a
firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong choices!
lol ;-)
>know is the vampire; I guess lifeblood and money could be bled away
> A couple of questions, Peter: Why the name Lestat? The only one I
by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current build/boat
is?
>future.
> I look forward to asking for advice from everyone many times in
>Hi Tony,
> Regards to all,
>
> Tony.
>
>I don't have regular access to a computer right now - being in travelHi Nels,
>mode. Perusing the recent posts I wonder if you are aware of the
>Micro for sale in Norfolk? Sounds like an incredbile opportunity to
>have a Micro fully founded for about a quarter of the replacement
>value.
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger4Sale/message/373
>Nels
I'm pleased you caught my replies to Peter - that guy makes me how! - (sometimes with laughter ;-)
I'm a bit strapped for time, myself, at the moment. Nothing new there, then :(
I did catch the ad as it happens. But now is about the worst time for such an opportunity - thanks, anyway. I told Peter a white lie - that I was actually building my dinghy. In fact, I've only had the plans for it for a couple of weeks and am sourcing the timber. The prices for BS quality marine ply in the UK are astronomical! - imported, as I mentioned earlier - and most want you to purchase 10 sheets of one thickness before the price gets half-way decent :( But I'm determined to do it - and get on the damn water before I pop my clogs!
In any event, the building of the thing is to be a major part of the pleasure/challenge. I've not built a boat before, but my DIY/joinery skills are reasonable; I've just about re-built the 1875 Victorian Town House that has been my albatross (stopped me building boats!) for the past couple of decades. But the way I see it, by the time the dinghy is built and sailed I will be in a position to finally decide upon the cruiser build, and the dinghy will become a pretty little tender as well as a fun-sailer.
I still haven't joined all the other Bolger groups (time is such a thief) so I haven't seen Peter's new build yet (I must do so! - so curious!!!) but I've browsed more time away than I should, and have already become enamoured of at least three totally different Bolger designs: - Chebacco, Black Skimmer (!) and even Birdwatcher (!!) all of which have that unique Bolger stamp for totally different reasons. I didn't even care for the look of Birdwatcher at first, but - once you recognise the raison d'etre, it seems a piece of genius. Similarly, Black Skimmer: - initially very strange to my untutored eye, but with a quite beautiful hull shape! And Chebacco - well there are some lovely examples. But, for a first major build, Lestat - sorry freudian slip - I mean Micro, still looks the best bet for a certain completion within a not too unreasonable space of time. But, the build itself is important to me. I could be persuaded to buy ready-built if both time and price were
right, but studying the excellent sites of the various constructors, makes me greedy for wood butchery. (The Birdwatcher - sorry, can't remember the builder's name off-hand - with the painted details on the interior panels and transom - so cool! Must look it out again)
BTW, Nels: Peter has been berating you for not sailing Lestat! Well.. . he is right, I guess... But, if she was mine, I'd be loath to get her dirty, too. I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin, and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals, pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
(Sorry, Peter. No offense? The alliteration seduced me. ;-D
I am sooooooooo jealous!
Tony.
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Nels <arvent@...> wrote: --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
wrote:
said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK;
suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey!
Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is
also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living
relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know
about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a while,
then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be. As I'm
getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial largess of a
firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong choices!
lol ;-)
by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current build/boat
is?
I'm pleased you caught my replies to Peter - that guy makes me how! - (sometimes with laughter ;-)
I'm a bit strapped for time, myself, at the moment. Nothing new there, then :(
I did catch the ad as it happens. But now is about the worst time for such an opportunity - thanks, anyway. I told Peter a white lie - that I was actually building my dinghy. In fact, I've only had the plans for it for a couple of weeks and am sourcing the timber. The prices for BS quality marine ply in the UK are astronomical! - imported, as I mentioned earlier - and most want you to purchase 10 sheets of one thickness before the price gets half-way decent :( But I'm determined to do it - and get on the damn water before I pop my clogs!
In any event, the building of the thing is to be a major part of the pleasure/challenge. I've not built a boat before, but my DIY/joinery skills are reasonable; I've just about re-built the 1875 Victorian Town House that has been my albatross (stopped me building boats!) for the past couple of decades. But the way I see it, by the time the dinghy is built and sailed I will be in a position to finally decide upon the cruiser build, and the dinghy will become a pretty little tender as well as a fun-sailer.
I still haven't joined all the other Bolger groups (time is such a thief) so I haven't seen Peter's new build yet (I must do so! - so curious!!!) but I've browsed more time away than I should, and have already become enamoured of at least three totally different Bolger designs: - Chebacco, Black Skimmer (!) and even Birdwatcher (!!) all of which have that unique Bolger stamp for totally different reasons. I didn't even care for the look of Birdwatcher at first, but - once you recognise the raison d'etre, it seems a piece of genius. Similarly, Black Skimmer: - initially very strange to my untutored eye, but with a quite beautiful hull shape! And Chebacco - well there are some lovely examples. But, for a first major build, Lestat - sorry freudian slip - I mean Micro, still looks the best bet for a certain completion within a not too unreasonable space of time. But, the build itself is important to me. I could be persuaded to buy ready-built if both time and price were
right, but studying the excellent sites of the various constructors, makes me greedy for wood butchery. (The Birdwatcher - sorry, can't remember the builder's name off-hand - with the painted details on the interior panels and transom - so cool! Must look it out again)
BTW, Nels: Peter has been berating you for not sailing Lestat! Well.. . he is right, I guess... But, if she was mine, I'd be loath to get her dirty, too. I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin, and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals, pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
(Sorry, Peter. No offense? The alliteration seduced me. ;-D
I am sooooooooo jealous!
Tony.
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wrote:
>>plucked some ballpark figures from the air as a demonstration. Having
> Regarding the financial outlay, I'm sure you're right, I just
said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK;
suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey!
Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is
also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living
relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know
about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a while,
then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be. As I'm
getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial largess of a
firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong choices!
lol ;-)
>know is the vampire; I guess lifeblood and money could be bled away
> A couple of questions, Peter: Why the name Lestat? The only one I
by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current build/boat
is?
>future.
> I look forward to asking for advice from everyone many times in
>Hi Tony,
> Regards to all,
>
> Tony.
>
>I don't have regular access to a computer right now - being in travelHi Nels,
>mode. Perusing the recent posts I wonder if you are aware of the
>Micro for sale in Norfolk? Sounds like an incredbile opportunity to
>have a Micro fully founded for about a quarter of the replacement
>value.
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger4Sale/message/373
>Nels
I'm pleased you caught my replies to Peter - that guy makes me how! - (sometimes with laughter ;-)
I'm a bit strapped for time, myself, at the moment. Nothing new there, then :(
I did catch the ad as it happens. But now is about the worst time for such an opportunity - thanks, anyway. I told Peter a white lie - that I was actually building my dinghy. In fact, I've only had the plans for it for a couple of weeks and am sourcing the timber. The prices for BS quality marine ply in the UK are astronomical! - imported, as I mentioned earlier - and most want you to purchase 10 sheets of one thickness before the price gets half-way decent :( But I'm determined to do it - and get on the damn water before I pop my clogs!
In any event, the building of the thing is to be a major part of the pleasure/challenge. I've not built a boat before, but my DIY/joinery skills are reasonable; I've just about re-built the 1875 Victorian Town House that has been my albatross (stopped me building boats!) for the past couple of decades. But the way I see it, by the time the dinghy is built and sailed I will be in a position to finally decide upon the cruiser build, and the dinghy will become a pretty little tender as well as a fun-sailer.
I still haven't joined all the other Bolger groups (time is such a thief) so I haven't seen Peter's new build yet (I must do so! - so curious!!!) but I've browsed more time away than I should, and have already become enamoured of at least three totally different Bolger designs: - Chebacco, Black Skimmer (!) and even Birdwatcher (!!) all of which have that unique Bolger stamp for totally different reasons. I didn't even care for the look of Birdwatcher at first, but - once you recognise the raison d'etre, it seems a piece of genius. Similarly, Black Skimmer: - initially very strange to my untutored eye, but with a quite beautiful hull shape! And Chebacco - well there are some lovely examples. But, for a first major build, Lestat - sorry freudian slip - I mean Micro, still looks the best bet for a certain completion within a not too unreasonable space of time. But, the build itself is important to me. I could be persuaded to buy ready-built if both time and price were
right, but studying the excellent sites of the various constructors, makes me greedy for wood butchery. (The Birdwatcher - sorry, can't remember the builder's name off-hand - with the painted details on the interior panels and transom - so cool! Must look it out again)
BTW, Nels: Peter has been berating you for not sailing Lestat! Well.. . he is right, I guess... But, if she was mine, I'd be loath to get her dirty, too. I'd just sit, drink Newcastle Brown Ale, and look at her; maybe rising once in a while, to polish a piece of brightwork with my sleeve. Then, drunk as a skunk, I'd climb aboard, crawl into cabin, and become comatose, dreaming of far off, exotic, Canadian locals, pestered by pesky perfection :-D - LOL!
(Sorry, Peter. No offense? The alliteration seduced me. ;-D
I am sooooooooo jealous!
Tony.
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
wrote:
said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK;
suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey!
Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is
also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living
relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know
about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a while,
then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be. As I'm
getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial largess of a
firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong choices!
lol ;-)
by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current build/boat
is?
I don't have regular access to a computer right now - being in travel
mode. Perusing the recent posts I wonder if you are aware of the
Micro for sale in Norfolk? Sounds like an incredbile opportunity to
have a Micro fully founded for about a quarter of the replacement
value.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger4Sale/message/373
Nels
wrote:
>>plucked some ballpark figures from the air as a demonstration. Having
> Regarding the financial outlay, I'm sure you're right, I just
said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK;
suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey!
Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is
also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living
relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know
about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a while,
then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be. As I'm
getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial largess of a
firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong choices!
lol ;-)
>know is the vampire; I guess lifeblood and money could be bled away
> A couple of questions, Peter: Why the name Lestat? The only one I
by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current build/boat
is?
>future.
> I look forward to asking for advice from everyone many times in
>Hi Tony,
> Regards to all,
>
> Tony.
>
I don't have regular access to a computer right now - being in travel
mode. Perusing the recent posts I wonder if you are aware of the
Micro for sale in Norfolk? Sounds like an incredbile opportunity to
have a Micro fully founded for about a quarter of the replacement
value.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger4Sale/message/373
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
wrote:
Having said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK;
suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey!
Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is
also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living
relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know
about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a
while, then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be.
As I'm getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial
largess of a firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong
choices! lol ;-)
away by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current
build/boat is?
Hi Tony,
It is good that you raise the issue of available materials and
costs,as this group has a world-wide audience.Equally so,the very
real concerns of all us rich folks living large on "canary portion
sized" public salaries and/or pensions :-D
Reality is best absorbed from close quarters,thus no matter
where you live,there is little to be gained, but much to be spent,
while attempting to build something to standards from another part
of the world.The often quoted navigation"rule" about using local
knowledge when in strange waters applies well to boat
building,especially amateur boat building.Certainly there are many
types of available woods that "glue well"(quoting Phil Bolger) and
are available to you.If you can afford the best,go for it!
Otherwise,get the best you can honestly afford and take greater
pains at protecting/sealing it. Afterall,even the best woods will
rot out if proper care is not taken in protecting them.Just how
quickly this happens is the only difference in the end.
Hardwoods are nice, but if your budget says,"get real buddy!",
I would opt for the best quality softwoods and just increase the
scantlings ever so slightly.See George Beuhlers' web site for a more
in-depth,real-life expansion of this way of thinking.
However, the biggest and best advantage us amateurs have is
that we are both customer and builder.....and boy-o-boy are we ever
good friends! We,as "builders", can build whenever we feel like it
and the customer will be more then happy with that time frame and
we,as "customers" can buy as much or as little as we can afford and
the builder won't be bitching about it either :-) This has always
been the biggest bonus for me since I have no soon-to-be-dead-
wealthy-relatives-about-to-pass-on-a-fortune-in-gold-bullion-to-me-
anytime-soon and have long ago come to grips with that bit of tragic
reality. Thus a happy camper I am! Never forget,poverty can/does
have its' rewards....it just take a wee bit longer to arrive!
At any rate, my point is simply to enjoy the process while it
lasts,no matter how long it takes.Take the time to seal and protect
all your edge grains.Round over sharp corners so that finishes will
adhere better to these"weak spots" and use a bit of "hollow" when
glueing pieces together.This way, your choice of building materials
will have the best chance of surviving long enough for many years
worth of happy adventures and perhaps to even be passed on to the
next generation!
Regarding the name LESTAT; yup,he is indeed a vampire,from the
Anne Rice collection.I've long been fascinated with vague notions of
eternal life( I wish to never stop having fun!) and vampires have a
nifty nack for attaining it,at least that is how the story goes.
With the Micro,it struck me one day while building her that here I
was,in 1992,building a cat-yawl,a type that can be traced back to
early U.S. east coast fishing boats,but adapted for modern materials
from my time on a boat that will most likely still be around long
after I have been cold and buried.In short,a vessel able to
transcend time,just like Lestat does in the novels as he carries
with him hints from his ancient past,all the while adjusting to the
present times with no fore-see-able end in sight well into
eternity.....
My present attempts at disposing of most of my own government
funded wealth so that I can continue relishing in my own blissful
poverty striken state can be seen here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4/files/WINDERMERE/
and perhaps in a few other Bolger group "files" sections
under"Windermere".
A new up-dated group of pictures is due really soon.
Best of luck with you boatbuilding efforts!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, known also to enjoy beers,ports and wines various all
enjoined with some good old artery clogging cheeses and creamy
sauces poured over second helpings of the meal-du-jour,yum-yum! and
not one to turn a blind eye to the fairer sex, from along the shores
of the St.Lawrence River..............
wrote:
>plucked some ballpark figures from the air as a demonstration.
> Regarding the financial outlay, I'm sure you're right, I just
Having said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK;
suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey!
Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is
also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living
relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know
about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a
while, then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be.
As I'm getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial
largess of a firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong
choices! lol ;-)
>I know is the vampire; I guess lifeblood and money could be bled
> A couple of questions, Peter: Why the name Lestat? The only one
away by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current
build/boat is?
Hi Tony,
It is good that you raise the issue of available materials and
costs,as this group has a world-wide audience.Equally so,the very
real concerns of all us rich folks living large on "canary portion
sized" public salaries and/or pensions :-D
Reality is best absorbed from close quarters,thus no matter
where you live,there is little to be gained, but much to be spent,
while attempting to build something to standards from another part
of the world.The often quoted navigation"rule" about using local
knowledge when in strange waters applies well to boat
building,especially amateur boat building.Certainly there are many
types of available woods that "glue well"(quoting Phil Bolger) and
are available to you.If you can afford the best,go for it!
Otherwise,get the best you can honestly afford and take greater
pains at protecting/sealing it. Afterall,even the best woods will
rot out if proper care is not taken in protecting them.Just how
quickly this happens is the only difference in the end.
Hardwoods are nice, but if your budget says,"get real buddy!",
I would opt for the best quality softwoods and just increase the
scantlings ever so slightly.See George Beuhlers' web site for a more
in-depth,real-life expansion of this way of thinking.
However, the biggest and best advantage us amateurs have is
that we are both customer and builder.....and boy-o-boy are we ever
good friends! We,as "builders", can build whenever we feel like it
and the customer will be more then happy with that time frame and
we,as "customers" can buy as much or as little as we can afford and
the builder won't be bitching about it either :-) This has always
been the biggest bonus for me since I have no soon-to-be-dead-
wealthy-relatives-about-to-pass-on-a-fortune-in-gold-bullion-to-me-
anytime-soon and have long ago come to grips with that bit of tragic
reality. Thus a happy camper I am! Never forget,poverty can/does
have its' rewards....it just take a wee bit longer to arrive!
At any rate, my point is simply to enjoy the process while it
lasts,no matter how long it takes.Take the time to seal and protect
all your edge grains.Round over sharp corners so that finishes will
adhere better to these"weak spots" and use a bit of "hollow" when
glueing pieces together.This way, your choice of building materials
will have the best chance of surviving long enough for many years
worth of happy adventures and perhaps to even be passed on to the
next generation!
Regarding the name LESTAT; yup,he is indeed a vampire,from the
Anne Rice collection.I've long been fascinated with vague notions of
eternal life( I wish to never stop having fun!) and vampires have a
nifty nack for attaining it,at least that is how the story goes.
With the Micro,it struck me one day while building her that here I
was,in 1992,building a cat-yawl,a type that can be traced back to
early U.S. east coast fishing boats,but adapted for modern materials
from my time on a boat that will most likely still be around long
after I have been cold and buried.In short,a vessel able to
transcend time,just like Lestat does in the novels as he carries
with him hints from his ancient past,all the while adjusting to the
present times with no fore-see-able end in sight well into
eternity.....
My present attempts at disposing of most of my own government
funded wealth so that I can continue relishing in my own blissful
poverty striken state can be seen here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger4/files/WINDERMERE/
and perhaps in a few other Bolger group "files" sections
under"Windermere".
A new up-dated group of pictures is due really soon.
Best of luck with you boatbuilding efforts!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, known also to enjoy beers,ports and wines various all
enjoined with some good old artery clogging cheeses and creamy
sauces poured over second helpings of the meal-du-jour,yum-yum! and
not one to turn a blind eye to the fairer sex, from along the shores
of the St.Lawrence River..............
Peter Lenihan <peterlenihan@...> wrote: --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
wrote:
(Normally I'm mean. My Lexmark all-in-one is a thief for ink :( )
Now I have a Micro Builders Manual. Peter, your boat is a gem. Such
attention to detail, finish and brightwork that - with respect -
transforms a sometimes awkward looking boat into a masterpiece IMHO.
it as cheap, quick option, I don't know if that would suit me. If
I'm truthful with myself, whilst I can see the logic in building a
quick, cheap boat that might only last a couple of seasons, though
that might be the perfect answer for lots of guys, I'm not sure that
it is for me. That's why I like Lestat so much. It might seem a bit
irrational, but I'd rather spend £10,000 ($15,000?) on material for
a boat like Peter's, or spend a third of that - or even less, using
salvage timber - for what would to my mind be a lesser boat which
would not give me pride and satisfaction, I think I'd have to go
with the former ideal.
life just dreaming. I've studied plans for the ultimate dream-boat
and they never happened. I think, by the time I've played with the
dinghy - or drowned myself - my objectives will have clarified.
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your lengthy and detailed reply :-D
Nels did say he owned her now. He is a most fortunate man.
One of the reasons I copied your build pics, Peter, was that along with the technical clarity there was the visual clarity of being able to see the boat's development out in the open against the greenery. So often build pics are slightly - and understandably - obscured by shelving, wood, other bits 'o boats, less than perfect lighting, etc. With Lestat's build I found that standing back from it gives an excellent sense of scale, etc. Also the keel information was so thorough. My Lestat folio (one of those neat, clear pocket things) now includes everything along with the 2001 Lake Chaplain Messabout. Sheer poetry!
Regarding the financial outlay, I'm sure you're right, I just plucked some ballpark figures from the air as a demonstration. Having said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK; suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey! Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a while, then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be. As I'm getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial largess of a firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong choices! lol ;-)
A couple of questions, Peter: Why the name Lestat? The only one I know is the vampire; I guess lifeblood and money could be bled away by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current build/boat is?
I look forward to asking for advice from everyone many times in future.
Regards to all,
Tony.
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wrote:
> Otherwise, Nels, thanks so much for the Lestat links. Heck, Iwas so impressed I copied them all to Word and printed them!
(Normally I'm mean. My Lexmark all-in-one is a thief for ink :( )
Now I have a Micro Builders Manual. Peter, your boat is a gem. Such
attention to detail, finish and brightwork that - with respect -
transforms a sometimes awkward looking boat into a masterpiece IMHO.
>the Bolger Micro in my case is that whilst I originally thought of
> Otherwise, thanks for the advice everyone. The one downside with
it as cheap, quick option, I don't know if that would suit me. If
I'm truthful with myself, whilst I can see the logic in building a
quick, cheap boat that might only last a couple of seasons, though
that might be the perfect answer for lots of guys, I'm not sure that
it is for me. That's why I like Lestat so much. It might seem a bit
irrational, but I'd rather spend £10,000 ($15,000?) on material for
a boat like Peter's, or spend a third of that - or even less, using
salvage timber - for what would to my mind be a lesser boat which
would not give me pride and satisfaction, I think I'd have to go
with the former ideal.
>get that because - and I doubt I'm alone here - I've wasted too much
> Most of you guys have a lot of experience. I don't have time to
life just dreaming. I've studied plans for the ultimate dream-boat
and they never happened. I think, by the time I've played with the
dinghy - or drowned myself - my objectives will have clarified.
>Hello Tony,.........................................................................................................................
>
>I'm the guy who built the Bolger Micro LESTAT and sold her to
>Nels(whom I dearly wish would launch and sail her fertheloveoGod
>before the next ice age :-D) and it cost me just shy of $6000.00CAN.
>to build her as you see her.$15,000.00 is alot of lucre for amateur
>boat building and could get you a much bigger boat.
> It has been my observation that it would most likely take one
>just as long to build a"disposable" quick-n-dirty version of a Micro
>as one slightly enhanced but far more durable. When I built her, I
>intended to only use her a couple of years then build another
>boat.Little was I to know that those couple of years would way too
>soon become 10! Time and life just flew right along with lots of fun
>generously sprinkled in along the way.Needless to say, when it was
>time to sell her, I was more then thankful that I had indeed built
>her the way I did otherwise I would have been hard pressed to sell
>anyone a pile of rotted wood nor would I have had the chance to
>experience so many safe fun adventures with her over the years!
>
>
> Many folks enjoy collecting plans.Some have an enviable library
>of plans that would put many boat designers to shame.All of them
>have great dream fodder!Also,some have a boat built by their own
>hands and some even have veritable mini-fleets of craft built by
>their own hands.They too have great fodder for their own dreams.
>The biggest difference between these two groups, in my simple
>opinion, is that the first group generally dreams of a life while
>the second group is pretty much living the dream.
>.
>It really doesn't matter all that much which boat you build,in
>the end, but rather which group do wish to be a part of the
>most.Either is perfectly fine, so long as that is what you really
>want. Only you,Tony,can can make that choice and overcome the
>hardest part of the whole process........taking your saw to wood :-)
>
>The challenges met along the way,while building, are nothing
>more than the private seasonings to a wonderful dish which one day
>becomes your boat,your escape vehicle,your magic carpet to some
>wonderfully beautiful memories! Expand your palate and discover some
>of this worlds finest feast for the mind,soul and heart!The sense of
>accomplishment and pride of ownership once you launch your vessel
>will be unlike anything else you've ever done.....and in retrospect,
>will leave you wondering why in hell you didn't build it sooner!
>
>Thank you for your kind words regarding LESTAT and never fear,
>there are lots of us here who can/will help you along with building
>questions when that happiest of times arrives.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Peter Lenihan,plugging away eagerly on his fourth boat and loving
>every minute of it,from along the mighty wet St.Lawrence............
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your lengthy and detailed reply :-D
Nels did say he owned her now. He is a most fortunate man.
One of the reasons I copied your build pics, Peter, was that along with the technical clarity there was the visual clarity of being able to see the boat's development out in the open against the greenery. So often build pics are slightly - and understandably - obscured by shelving, wood, other bits 'o boats, less than perfect lighting, etc. With Lestat's build I found that standing back from it gives an excellent sense of scale, etc. Also the keel information was so thorough. My Lestat folio (one of those neat, clear pocket things) now includes everything along with the 2001 Lake Chaplain Messabout. Sheer poetry!
Regarding the financial outlay, I'm sure you're right, I just plucked some ballpark figures from the air as a demonstration. Having said that, we import most of our timber and boards in the UK; suitable hardwoods - even English oak - are scarce and very pricey! Decent marine-ply (and there is some crap that pretends to be so) is also very expensive, and - it must be said - our standard of living relative to wage earning is a bit less than the US, I don't know about Canada. After the dinghy is finished and been used for a while, then I'll be better able to judge what my main build will be. As I'm getting long in the tooth, and managing on the financial largess of a firefighters pension, I can't afford to make many wrong choices! lol ;-)
A couple of questions, Peter: Why the name Lestat? The only one I know is the vampire; I guess lifeblood and money could be bled away by a boat-build! lol! Finally, can I ask what your current build/boat is?
I look forward to asking for advice from everyone many times in future.
Regards to all,
Tony.
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
wrote:
(Normally I'm mean. My Lexmark all-in-one is a thief for ink :( )
Now I have a Micro Builders Manual. Peter, your boat is a gem. Such
attention to detail, finish and brightwork that - with respect -
transforms a sometimes awkward looking boat into a masterpiece IMHO.
it as cheap, quick option, I don't know if that would suit me. If
I'm truthful with myself, whilst I can see the logic in building a
quick, cheap boat that might only last a couple of seasons, though
that might be the perfect answer for lots of guys, I'm not sure that
it is for me. That's why I like Lestat so much. It might seem a bit
irrational, but I'd rather spend £10,000 ($15,000?) on material for
a boat like Peter's, or spend a third of that - or even less, using
salvage timber - for what would to my mind be a lesser boat which
would not give me pride and satisfaction, I think I'd have to go
with the former ideal.
life just dreaming. I've studied plans for the ultimate dream-boat
and they never happened. I think, by the time I've played with the
dinghy - or drowned myself - my objectives will have clarified.
Hello Tony,
I'm the guy who built the Bolger Micro LESTAT and sold her to
Nels(whom I dearly wish would launch and sail her fertheloveoGod
before the next ice age :-D) and it cost me just shy of $6000.00CAN.
to build her as you see her.$15,000.00 is alot of lucre for amateur
boat building and could get you a much bigger boat.
It has been my observation that it would most likely take one
just as long to build a"disposable" quick-n-dirty version of a Micro
as one slightly enhanced but far more durable. When I built her, I
intended to only use her a couple of years then build another
boat.Little was I to know that those couple of years would way too
soon become 10! Time and life just flew right along with lots of fun
generously sprinkled in along the way.Needless to say, when it was
time to sell her, I was more then thankful that I had indeed built
her the way I did otherwise I would have been hard pressed to sell
anyone a pile of rotted wood nor would I have had the chance to
experience so many safe fun adventures with her over the years!
Many folks enjoy collecting plans.Some have an enviable library
of plans that would put many boat designers to shame.All of them
have great dream fodder!Also,some have a boat built by their own
hands and some even have veritable mini-fleets of craft built by
their own hands.They too have great fodder for their own dreams.
The biggest difference between these two groups, in my simple
opinion, is that the first group generally dreams of a life while
the second group is pretty much living the dream.
It really doesn't matter all that much which boat you build,in
the end, but rather which group do wish to be a part of the
most.Either is perfectly fine, so long as that is what you really
want. Only you,Tony,can can make that choice and overcome the
hardest part of the whole process........taking your saw to wood :-)
The challenges met along the way,while building, are nothing
more than the private seasonings to a wonderful dish which one day
becomes your boat,your escape vehicle,your magic carpet to some
wonderfully beautiful memories! Expand your palate and discover some
of this worlds finest feast for the mind,soul and heart!The sense of
accomplishment and pride of ownership once you launch your vessel
will be unlike anything else you've ever done.....and in retrospect,
will leave you wondering why in hell you didn't build it sooner!
Thank you for your kind words regarding LESTAT and never fear,
there are lots of us here who can/will help you along with building
questions when that happiest of times arrives.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,plugging away eagerly on his fourth boat and loving
every minute of it,from along the mighty wet St.Lawrence............
wrote:
> Otherwise, Nels, thanks so much for the Lestat links. Heck, Iwas so impressed I copied them all to Word and printed them!
(Normally I'm mean. My Lexmark all-in-one is a thief for ink :( )
Now I have a Micro Builders Manual. Peter, your boat is a gem. Such
attention to detail, finish and brightwork that - with respect -
transforms a sometimes awkward looking boat into a masterpiece IMHO.
>the Bolger Micro in my case is that whilst I originally thought of
> Otherwise, thanks for the advice everyone. The one downside with
it as cheap, quick option, I don't know if that would suit me. If
I'm truthful with myself, whilst I can see the logic in building a
quick, cheap boat that might only last a couple of seasons, though
that might be the perfect answer for lots of guys, I'm not sure that
it is for me. That's why I like Lestat so much. It might seem a bit
irrational, but I'd rather spend £10,000 ($15,000?) on material for
a boat like Peter's, or spend a third of that - or even less, using
salvage timber - for what would to my mind be a lesser boat which
would not give me pride and satisfaction, I think I'd have to go
with the former ideal.
>get that because - and I doubt I'm alone here - I've wasted too much
> Most of you guys have a lot of experience. I don't have time to
life just dreaming. I've studied plans for the ultimate dream-boat
and they never happened. I think, by the time I've played with the
dinghy - or drowned myself - my objectives will have clarified.
Hello Tony,
I'm the guy who built the Bolger Micro LESTAT and sold her to
Nels(whom I dearly wish would launch and sail her fertheloveoGod
before the next ice age :-D) and it cost me just shy of $6000.00CAN.
to build her as you see her.$15,000.00 is alot of lucre for amateur
boat building and could get you a much bigger boat.
It has been my observation that it would most likely take one
just as long to build a"disposable" quick-n-dirty version of a Micro
as one slightly enhanced but far more durable. When I built her, I
intended to only use her a couple of years then build another
boat.Little was I to know that those couple of years would way too
soon become 10! Time and life just flew right along with lots of fun
generously sprinkled in along the way.Needless to say, when it was
time to sell her, I was more then thankful that I had indeed built
her the way I did otherwise I would have been hard pressed to sell
anyone a pile of rotted wood nor would I have had the chance to
experience so many safe fun adventures with her over the years!
Many folks enjoy collecting plans.Some have an enviable library
of plans that would put many boat designers to shame.All of them
have great dream fodder!Also,some have a boat built by their own
hands and some even have veritable mini-fleets of craft built by
their own hands.They too have great fodder for their own dreams.
The biggest difference between these two groups, in my simple
opinion, is that the first group generally dreams of a life while
the second group is pretty much living the dream.
It really doesn't matter all that much which boat you build,in
the end, but rather which group do wish to be a part of the
most.Either is perfectly fine, so long as that is what you really
want. Only you,Tony,can can make that choice and overcome the
hardest part of the whole process........taking your saw to wood :-)
The challenges met along the way,while building, are nothing
more than the private seasonings to a wonderful dish which one day
becomes your boat,your escape vehicle,your magic carpet to some
wonderfully beautiful memories! Expand your palate and discover some
of this worlds finest feast for the mind,soul and heart!The sense of
accomplishment and pride of ownership once you launch your vessel
will be unlike anything else you've ever done.....and in retrospect,
will leave you wondering why in hell you didn't build it sooner!
Thank you for your kind words regarding LESTAT and never fear,
there are lots of us here who can/will help you along with building
questions when that happiest of times arrives.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,plugging away eagerly on his fourth boat and loving
every minute of it,from along the mighty wet St.Lawrence............
Hi Nels - everyone,
Sorry for the late reply. Just the regular domestic/health/finance/life,etc, crap-fest that keeps a person away from the essentials of small boat talk. LOL! Having said which, since I decided it was past time I got myself into gear and actually built something before I pop 'me clogs, I have joined a few other forums to such a degree I was in danger of becoming somewhat confused! But that has clarified as a do have objectives I must stick to.
The first is to build a simple dinghy with a rag of red sail and get out there!
Otherwise, Nels, thanks so much for the Lestat links. Heck, I was so impressed I copied them all to Word and printed them! (Normally I'm mean. My Lexmark all-in-one is a thief for ink :( ) Now I have a Micro Builders Manual. Peter, your boat is a gem. Such attention to detail, finish and brightwork that - with respect - transforms a sometimes awkward looking boat into a masterpiece IMHO.
Basically, there are only two real contenders in my pocket-cruiser list as of now. Bolger's Micro is new to me and will remain a favourite: the other - which I've studied for quite a while - is not a Bolger boat, and - as this is not a forum for comparative discussion - I'll keep it to myself, except to say that it has a lot in common with Bolger designs, but its downside is that it is an enclosed one man boat without an open cockpit. It is so very, very specific - almost unique - that I think some of you might guess :) ...
There is another design, though, which has been tormenting me for years ever since I bought the study plan. I guess I will mention because it is so very specific, too, and that is the Selway Fisher Micro 8. But it is rather impractical(!!!) and far from being a cheap boat to build (actually it takes shed loads of ply for 8') so it might remain a pipe-dream. We'll see.
Otherwise, thanks for the advice everyone. The one downside with the Bolger Micro in my case is that whilst I originally thought of it as cheap, quick option, I don't know if that would suit me. If I'm truthful with myself, whilst I can see the logic in building a quick, cheap boat that might only last a couple of seasons, though that might be the perfect answer for lots of guys, I'm not sure that it is for me. That's why I like Lestat so much. It might seem a bit irrational, but I'd rather spend £10,000 ($15,000?) on material for a boat like Peter's, or spend a third of that - or even less, using salvage timber - for what would to my mind be a lesser boat which would not give me pride and satisfaction, I think I'd have to go with the former ideal.
Most of you guys have a lot of experience. I don't have time to get that because - and I doubt I'm alone here - I've wasted too much life just dreaming. I've studied plans for the ultimate dream-boat and they never happened. I think, by the time I've played with the dinghy - or drowned myself - my objectives will have clarified.
So - I gotta a get in the wet stuff! ;-D
Tony.
Nels <arvent@...> wrote:
Sorry for the late reply. Just the regular domestic/health/finance/life,etc, crap-fest that keeps a person away from the essentials of small boat talk. LOL! Having said which, since I decided it was past time I got myself into gear and actually built something before I pop 'me clogs, I have joined a few other forums to such a degree I was in danger of becoming somewhat confused! But that has clarified as a do have objectives I must stick to.
The first is to build a simple dinghy with a rag of red sail and get out there!
Otherwise, Nels, thanks so much for the Lestat links. Heck, I was so impressed I copied them all to Word and printed them! (Normally I'm mean. My Lexmark all-in-one is a thief for ink :( ) Now I have a Micro Builders Manual. Peter, your boat is a gem. Such attention to detail, finish and brightwork that - with respect - transforms a sometimes awkward looking boat into a masterpiece IMHO.
Basically, there are only two real contenders in my pocket-cruiser list as of now. Bolger's Micro is new to me and will remain a favourite: the other - which I've studied for quite a while - is not a Bolger boat, and - as this is not a forum for comparative discussion - I'll keep it to myself, except to say that it has a lot in common with Bolger designs, but its downside is that it is an enclosed one man boat without an open cockpit. It is so very, very specific - almost unique - that I think some of you might guess :) ...
There is another design, though, which has been tormenting me for years ever since I bought the study plan. I guess I will mention because it is so very specific, too, and that is the Selway Fisher Micro 8. But it is rather impractical(!!!) and far from being a cheap boat to build (actually it takes shed loads of ply for 8') so it might remain a pipe-dream. We'll see.
Otherwise, thanks for the advice everyone. The one downside with the Bolger Micro in my case is that whilst I originally thought of it as cheap, quick option, I don't know if that would suit me. If I'm truthful with myself, whilst I can see the logic in building a quick, cheap boat that might only last a couple of seasons, though that might be the perfect answer for lots of guys, I'm not sure that it is for me. That's why I like Lestat so much. It might seem a bit irrational, but I'd rather spend £10,000 ($15,000?) on material for a boat like Peter's, or spend a third of that - or even less, using salvage timber - for what would to my mind be a lesser boat which would not give me pride and satisfaction, I think I'd have to go with the former ideal.
Most of you guys have a lot of experience. I don't have time to get that because - and I doubt I'm alone here - I've wasted too much life just dreaming. I've studied plans for the ultimate dream-boat and they never happened. I think, by the time I've played with the dinghy - or drowned myself - my objectives will have clarified.
So - I gotta a get in the wet stuff! ;-D
Tony.
Nels <arvent@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony" <magsman999@...> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> New guy here. I'm a retired firefighter from North East UK - named
Tony.
>
> I'm a little confused over the storage issue. Am I to assume that
with
> this group being so large and healthy it is to do with archive-
> management, or am I missing something obvious? (That would not be
a
> first :)
Hi Tony,
Welcome aboard. I have been a member for years and am still confused
as you may have already witnessed:-) I have posted articles and
photos myself that I can no longer locate. (I was just looking for
some of another power cat for example.)
Hopefully at some point we can form a group dedicated to the Micro
series as there seems to be a growing interest. I believe with the
current extreme energy costs, many folks will be looking at smaller
or more compact cruising boats.
Here are some links to information on Micro from outside our group.
The ones about Lestat, written by Peter Lenihan are particularly of
worth to anyone considering a Micro.
But I may be a bit biased, as I am the proud owner of said boat -
now 14 years old. (The boat not me unfortunately:-)
Locating good wood is certainly a challenge these days. Some folks
are considering "Baltic birch" from Russia. Rot prone supposedly but
if sealed with epoxy and glass it seems to work.
I have photos posted of Lestat somewhere.
Now I just realize half these links probably won't work either.
http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/index.html
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro2/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/champlain/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/mayflies/index.htm
Nels
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 18:12:52 -0000, oarmandt wrote:
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
> I like to do about the opposite with the mail options. I do not takeI get mail from all the discussion groups and my email software sorts by thread. This gives me all my boating email in one place, and lets me quickly delete entire threads that do not interest me. Good email software helps of course ... :)
> mail from the main group because I intend to check that regularly
> anyway. It is easier to follow the threads from the yahoo site than
> the digest.
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
I like to do about the opposite with the mail options. I do not take
mail from the main group because I intend to check that regularly
anyway. It is easier to follow the threads from the yahoo site than
the digest. I take the emails from the other sites so that I know
when something new has been posted there without having to open every
site. As there is not much activity on the overflow sites, they do
not fill the mailbox.
Doug
mail from the main group because I intend to check that regularly
anyway. It is easier to follow the threads from the yahoo site than
the digest. I take the emails from the other sites so that I know
when something new has been posted there without having to open every
site. As there is not much activity on the overflow sites, they do
not fill the mailbox.
Doug
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Grome <bagacayboatworks@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Here's what works best for me:
>
> 1- subscribe and receive email from the "bolger" group.
>
> 2- subscribe to all the other bolger groups but set your email
receiving to "off" because all those other groups are for storage of
photos and files, not for conversation.
>
> I think the person who owns the "bolger" group has simply forgotten
to add "bolger7" to the list of storage groups on the group home page.
Here's my list of bolger groups, if there's more I don't know about them:
>
> bolger
> Bolger2
> Bolger3
> bolger4
> bolger4photos
> Bolger4Sale
> bolger5
> bolger6
> bolger7
> bolger_study_plans_only
> BolgerCartoons
> BolgerOldshoe
>
>
> Kenneth Grome
> Bagacay Boatworks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 07 May 2006 14:12:17 -0000, Anthony wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > New guy here. I'm a retired firefighter from North East UK - named
Tony.
> >
> > I'm a little confused over the storage issue. Am I to assume that
with
> > this group being so large and healthy it is to do with archive-
> > management, or am I missing something obvious? (That would not be a
> > first :)
> >
> > The reason I ask is relative to bolger7. My specific interest is
in the
> > Micro, and - seeing there are some new pics uploaded (thank you
> > Gregg :) - I am naturally wanting to view. However, I don't see
bolger7
> > as listed? Which brings me to the overall question of how storage-
> > groups are qualified by name and content- or is it purely date? Is
> > there a simple answer to this? My inbox is pretty hectic at the
best of
> > times, so although I mean to subscribe to bolger-cartoons (I'm a
> > graphic-arts grad so tech and other drawings are my meat, whatever
the
> > subject) I do not wish to complicate my mail more than necessary.
> >
> > I'm aware that I might have "searched" and found an answer, but I
only
> > came to this subject by accident the other day when I was denied
access
> > to bolger6. At the time - not realising the significance and thinking
> > I'd "joined all" this confusion arose :)
> >
> > The Micro is on my - very short - short list of potential cruisers -
> > way out in front, really, but having bitten off non-completed targets
> > in the past I mean to be as sure as I can be before cutting wood. I
> > mean to look into constructuion-grade v marine ply issues for a kick-
> > off. I'm willing to bet this has been discussed-to-death
previously, so
> > I shall search.
> >
> > Thanks for group-membership,
> >
> > Tony.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging
> > dead horses
> > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> > - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
> > Fax: (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony" <magsman999@...> wrote:
Welcome aboard. I have been a member for years and am still confused
as you may have already witnessed:-) I have posted articles and
photos myself that I can no longer locate. (I was just looking for
some of another power cat for example.)
Hopefully at some point we can form a group dedicated to the Micro
series as there seems to be a growing interest. I believe with the
current extreme energy costs, many folks will be looking at smaller
or more compact cruising boats.
Here are some links to information on Micro from outside our group.
The ones about Lestat, written by Peter Lenihan are particularly of
worth to anyone considering a Micro.
But I may be a bit biased, as I am the proud owner of said boat -
now 14 years old. (The boat not me unfortunately:-)
Locating good wood is certainly a challenge these days. Some folks
are considering "Baltic birch" from Russia. Rot prone supposedly but
if sealed with epoxy and glass it seems to work.
I have photos posted of Lestat somewhere.
Now I just realize half these links probably won't work either.
http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/index.html
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro2/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/champlain/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/mayflies/index.htm
Nels
>Tony.
> Hello All,
>
> New guy here. I'm a retired firefighter from North East UK - named
>with
> I'm a little confused over the storage issue. Am I to assume that
> this group being so large and healthy it is to do with archive-a
> management, or am I missing something obvious? (That would not be
> first :)Hi Tony,
Welcome aboard. I have been a member for years and am still confused
as you may have already witnessed:-) I have posted articles and
photos myself that I can no longer locate. (I was just looking for
some of another power cat for example.)
Hopefully at some point we can form a group dedicated to the Micro
series as there seems to be a growing interest. I believe with the
current extreme energy costs, many folks will be looking at smaller
or more compact cruising boats.
Here are some links to information on Micro from outside our group.
The ones about Lestat, written by Peter Lenihan are particularly of
worth to anyone considering a Micro.
But I may be a bit biased, as I am the proud owner of said boat -
now 14 years old. (The boat not me unfortunately:-)
Locating good wood is certainly a challenge these days. Some folks
are considering "Baltic birch" from Russia. Rot prone supposedly but
if sealed with epoxy and glass it seems to work.
I have photos posted of Lestat somewhere.
Now I just realize half these links probably won't work either.
http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/index.html
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro2/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/00/DM1999/articles/micro/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/champlain/index.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/01/articles/mayflies/index.htm
Nels
Thanks very much for your swift response, Kenneth. It is exactly photos and files I do want to trawl, so you are a great help; I shall do precisely that, including 7.
Tony.
............................................................................................................................
Kenneth Grome <bagacayboatworks@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,
Here's what works best for me:
1- subscribe and receive email from the "bolger" group.
2- subscribe to all the other bolger groups but set your email receiving to "off" because all those other groups are for storage of photos and files, not for conversation.
I think the person who owns the "bolger" group has simply forgotten to add "bolger7" to the list of storage groups on the group home page. Here's my list of bolger groups, if there's more I don't know about them:
bolger
Bolger2
Bolger3
bolger4
bolger4photos
Bolger4Sale
bolger5
bolger6
bolger7
bolger_study_plans_only
BolgerCartoons
BolgerOldshoe
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
Tony.
............................................................................................................................
Kenneth Grome <bagacayboatworks@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,
Here's what works best for me:
1- subscribe and receive email from the "bolger" group.
2- subscribe to all the other bolger groups but set your email receiving to "off" because all those other groups are for storage of photos and files, not for conversation.
I think the person who owns the "bolger" group has simply forgotten to add "bolger7" to the list of storage groups on the group home page. Here's my list of bolger groups, if there's more I don't know about them:
bolger
Bolger2
Bolger3
bolger4
bolger4photos
Bolger4Sale
bolger5
bolger6
bolger7
bolger_study_plans_only
BolgerCartoons
BolgerOldshoe
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
On Sun, 07 May 2006 14:12:17 -0000, Anthony wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> New guy here. I'm a retired firefighter from North East UK - named Tony.
>
> I'm a little confused over the storage issue. Am I to assume that with
> this group being so large and healthy it is to do with archive-
> management, or am I missing something obvious? (That would not be a
> first :)
>
> The reason I ask is relative to bolger7. My specific interest is in the
> Micro, and - seeing there are some new pics uploaded (thank you
> Gregg :) - I am naturally wanting to view. However, I don't see bolger7
> as listed? Which brings me to the overall question of how storage-
> groups are qualified by name and content- or is it purely date? Is
> there a simple answer to this? My inbox is pretty hectic at the best of
> times, so although I mean to subscribe to bolger-cartoons (I'm a
> graphic-arts grad so tech and other drawings are my meat, whatever the
> subject) I do not wish to complicate my mail more than necessary.
>
> I'm aware that I might have "searched" and found an answer, but I only
> came to this subject by accident the other day when I was denied access
> to bolger6. At the time - not realising the significance and thinking
> I'd "joined all" this confusion arose :)
>
> The Micro is on my - very short - short list of potential cruisers -
> way out in front, really, but having bitten off non-completed targets
> in the past I mean to be as sure as I can be before cutting wood. I
> mean to look into constructuion-grade v marine ply issues for a kick-
> off. I'm willing to bet this has been discussed-to-death previously, so
> I shall search.
>
> Thanks for group-membership,
>
> Tony.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging
> dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
> Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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- NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
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Hi Tony,
Here's what works best for me:
1- subscribe and receive email from the "bolger" group.
2- subscribe to all the other bolger groups but set your email receiving to "off" because all those other groups are for storage of photos and files, not for conversation.
I think the person who owns the "bolger" group has simply forgotten to add "bolger7" to the list of storage groups on the group home page. Here's my list of bolger groups, if there's more I don't know about them:
bolger
Bolger2
Bolger3
bolger4
bolger4photos
Bolger4Sale
bolger5
bolger6
bolger7
bolger_study_plans_only
BolgerCartoons
BolgerOldshoe
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
Here's what works best for me:
1- subscribe and receive email from the "bolger" group.
2- subscribe to all the other bolger groups but set your email receiving to "off" because all those other groups are for storage of photos and files, not for conversation.
I think the person who owns the "bolger" group has simply forgotten to add "bolger7" to the list of storage groups on the group home page. Here's my list of bolger groups, if there's more I don't know about them:
bolger
Bolger2
Bolger3
bolger4
bolger4photos
Bolger4Sale
bolger5
bolger6
bolger7
bolger_study_plans_only
BolgerCartoons
BolgerOldshoe
Kenneth Grome
Bagacay Boatworks
On Sun, 07 May 2006 14:12:17 -0000, Anthony wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> New guy here. I'm a retired firefighter from North East UK - named Tony.
>
> I'm a little confused over the storage issue. Am I to assume that with
> this group being so large and healthy it is to do with archive-
> management, or am I missing something obvious? (That would not be a
> first :)
>
> The reason I ask is relative to bolger7. My specific interest is in the
> Micro, and - seeing there are some new pics uploaded (thank you
> Gregg :) - I am naturally wanting to view. However, I don't see bolger7
> as listed? Which brings me to the overall question of how storage-
> groups are qualified by name and content- or is it purely date? Is
> there a simple answer to this? My inbox is pretty hectic at the best of
> times, so although I mean to subscribe to bolger-cartoons (I'm a
> graphic-arts grad so tech and other drawings are my meat, whatever the
> subject) I do not wish to complicate my mail more than necessary.
>
> I'm aware that I might have "searched" and found an answer, but I only
> came to this subject by accident the other day when I was denied access
> to bolger6. At the time - not realising the significance and thinking
> I'd "joined all" this confusion arose :)
>
> The Micro is on my - very short - short list of potential cruisers -
> way out in front, really, but having bitten off non-completed targets
> in the past I mean to be as sure as I can be before cutting wood. I
> mean to look into constructuion-grade v marine ply issues for a kick-
> off. I'm willing to bet this has been discussed-to-death previously, so
> I shall search.
>
> Thanks for group-membership,
>
> Tony.
>
>
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>
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Hello All,
New guy here. I'm a retired firefighter from North East UK - named Tony.
I'm a little confused over the storage issue. Am I to assume that with
this group being so large and healthy it is to do with archive-
management, or am I missing something obvious? (That would not be a
first :)
The reason I ask is relative to bolger7. My specific interest is in the
Micro, and - seeing there are some new pics uploaded (thank you
Gregg :) - I am naturally wanting to view. However, I don't see bolger7
as listed? Which brings me to the overall question of how storage-
groups are qualified by name and content- or is it purely date? Is
there a simple answer to this? My inbox is pretty hectic at the best of
times, so although I mean to subscribe to bolger-cartoons (I'm a
graphic-arts grad so tech and other drawings are my meat, whatever the
subject) I do not wish to complicate my mail more than necessary.
I'm aware that I might have "searched" and found an answer, but I only
came to this subject by accident the other day when I was denied access
to bolger6. At the time - not realising the significance and thinking
I'd "joined all" this confusion arose :)
The Micro is on my - very short - short list of potential cruisers -
way out in front, really, but having bitten off non-completed targets
in the past I mean to be as sure as I can be before cutting wood. I
mean to look into constructuion-grade v marine ply issues for a kick-
off. I'm willing to bet this has been discussed-to-death previously, so
I shall search.
Thanks for group-membership,
Tony.
New guy here. I'm a retired firefighter from North East UK - named Tony.
I'm a little confused over the storage issue. Am I to assume that with
this group being so large and healthy it is to do with archive-
management, or am I missing something obvious? (That would not be a
first :)
The reason I ask is relative to bolger7. My specific interest is in the
Micro, and - seeing there are some new pics uploaded (thank you
Gregg :) - I am naturally wanting to view. However, I don't see bolger7
as listed? Which brings me to the overall question of how storage-
groups are qualified by name and content- or is it purely date? Is
there a simple answer to this? My inbox is pretty hectic at the best of
times, so although I mean to subscribe to bolger-cartoons (I'm a
graphic-arts grad so tech and other drawings are my meat, whatever the
subject) I do not wish to complicate my mail more than necessary.
I'm aware that I might have "searched" and found an answer, but I only
came to this subject by accident the other day when I was denied access
to bolger6. At the time - not realising the significance and thinking
I'd "joined all" this confusion arose :)
The Micro is on my - very short - short list of potential cruisers -
way out in front, really, but having bitten off non-completed targets
in the past I mean to be as sure as I can be before cutting wood. I
mean to look into constructuion-grade v marine ply issues for a kick-
off. I'm willing to bet this has been discussed-to-death previously, so
I shall search.
Thanks for group-membership,
Tony.