Re: Micro in South Australia, Paloma Blanca
Greg, good news that Roger may be coming back aboard. Does he know
there may be a few enquiries about his Paloma Blanca adventure? He
does seem to have cruised to Kangaroo Island quite a few times, and
that can be very rough.
Thanks for posting the photos of Roger's pilot house etc. I see now,
I think, that he wouldn't have sailed her from within, but there is
a lot of useful space and height.
Thanks for the AABB article(s) posting too. I'll be curious to know
how come the initial stern hung kick-up rudder mods mean an outboard
would be displaced to port as the transom scuppers seem to be
symetrical. Is it because those "Vee" shaped thingo's as shown in
the rudder drawing are still on the transom?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger7/files/Paloma%20Blanca/
I've copied to the Bolger7 Paloma Blanca file 3 pics previously
posted in another Bolgergroup photos section. I had not twigged that
Roger rowed her, but thought he paddled, or, as in the "run down the
dock" pic, simply always manouvered by sail alone. After reading in
the article on her building and modifications that Roger considered
her "easily rowed" it dawned on me that those topside open
rectangles (just aft of her race number!) were not extra scuppers
for Southern Ocean work, but in fact are oarports. Duh!
Cheers
Graeme
there may be a few enquiries about his Paloma Blanca adventure? He
does seem to have cruised to Kangaroo Island quite a few times, and
that can be very rough.
Thanks for posting the photos of Roger's pilot house etc. I see now,
I think, that he wouldn't have sailed her from within, but there is
a lot of useful space and height.
Thanks for the AABB article(s) posting too. I'll be curious to know
how come the initial stern hung kick-up rudder mods mean an outboard
would be displaced to port as the transom scuppers seem to be
symetrical. Is it because those "Vee" shaped thingo's as shown in
the rudder drawing are still on the transom?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger7/files/Paloma%20Blanca/
I've copied to the Bolger7 Paloma Blanca file 3 pics previously
posted in another Bolgergroup photos section. I had not twigged that
Roger rowed her, but thought he paddled, or, as in the "run down the
dock" pic, simply always manouvered by sail alone. After reading in
the article on her building and modifications that Roger considered
her "easily rowed" it dawned on me that those topside open
rectangles (just aft of her race number!) were not extra scuppers
for Southern Ocean work, but in fact are oarports. Duh!
Cheers
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Back again, as I have just been able to post another article from
the
> magazine: Australian Amateur Boat Builder, from Vol 2, issue 2,
Spring
> (Downunder that is) 1993. This article is one that Roger Keyes
wrote
> about the building of Paloma Blanca when he first built her in a
> modifed form without the keel. From the first this was meant to
be
> an interim arrangement and Roger always intended to complete
Paloma
> Blanca as a standard Micro so that he could venture off-shore to
> Kangaroo Island and the Gulfs.
>
> Roger did all this and as you will see from the other article from
> Australian Amateur Boat Builder, he sailed Paloma Blanca to
Kangaroo
> Island (with keel!) at a later date. Indeed, Roger went to the
Island
> quite a few times.
>
> So this article is with the first article and the photos of Paloma
> Blanca - (in the recent photos she appears modified, yet again,
with
> a "Navigator" cabin). - In the files section of Bolger 7 in a
file
> called Paloma Blanca.
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Greg F
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have just posted some more pictures of Roger Keyes' Micro,
Paloma
> Blanca, with the modified ("Navigator") cabin added. Paloma
Blanca is
> well known in this part of the Globe (at least) due to Roger's
> amazing exploits sailing her to Kangaroo Island and the South
> Australian Gulfs - not easy sailing, you are getting very close
> the "The Roaring Forties" down there!
>
> Roger kindly sent the pictures via email from South Australia
today,
> and I will try to post an article from Australian Amateur Boat
Builder
> tomorrow, of Paloma Blanca, when she was first built with
leeboards,
> rather than the designed keel. Roger did this for specific, and
> temporary reasons, and subsequently completed Paloma Blanca, as
> designed. The keel enabled Roger & Paloma to sail the voyages
that
> she susequently did! - and was always intended to do
>
> Great man, great boat, great place,
>
Well, blow me down fer a hornswoggler, or do not those scuppers in the
transom there grow larger now with succeedding adventures?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger7/files/Paloma%20Blanca/
Graeme
transom there grow larger now with succeedding adventures?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger7/files/Paloma%20Blanca/
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have just posted some more pictures of Roger Keyes' Micro, Paloma
> Blanca, with the modified ("Navigator") cabin added.
Thanks for the reply Peter,
As to tacking....yes, do all that(well, at least I think we've tried
all of that!). Not sure what is going on but will get to the bottom
of it before long?? Thanks for the comments/suggestions, though. I
have to say that this problem is not there all the time, so, it must
be something we are doing, but just can't see what ; your comments
will be taken on-board.
It would be good to see Roger commenting on the pre and post house
performance on his Micro, too.
Greg
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@...>
wrote:
As to tacking....yes, do all that(well, at least I think we've tried
all of that!). Not sure what is going on but will get to the bottom
of it before long?? Thanks for the comments/suggestions, though. I
have to say that this problem is not there all the time, so, it must
be something we are doing, but just can't see what ; your comments
will be taken on-board.
It would be good to see Roger commenting on the pre and post house
performance on his Micro, too.
Greg
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@...>
wrote:
>Roger
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Yes, the pictures are great and all we have to do now is get
> > used to the Yahoo Groups idea - and I think he will be joiningvery
> > soon.times
> >
> > The cabin does scare me a little and having been caught a few
> > where Matilda Jean wont come about when on the st'bd tack Iwonder
> > how it would be with that house on top? Much less, without amotor,
> > as Roger has sailed Paloma Blanca.wind
>
>
> Greg,
>
> Having Roger on board is great good news! Hope he makes it!
> As for coming about difficulties; I have found that depending on
> strenghts,the Micro either has to be sailed either like a biggerboat
> or a dinghy.That is,in light airs,you really want to keep up boatoff
> speed as much as possible and sometimes it even helps if you fall
> a bit,pick up more speed,and then heave the tiller over smartlywhile
> letting the mainsheet run. In heavier winds,I have found it helpsto
> steer the boat right through the eye of the wind while keeping thereverted
> main under tension.
> Of course, with such a small boat,waves can hamper some of these
> suggested manouvers and this is where I have sometimes times
> to simply reaching up,grabbing the main sprit-boom,and forced itinto
> the wind,thus pushing the bow through the eye of the wind.running
> Also, I have always kept the mizzen sheeted in tight unless
> straight downwind(where I liked to go wing-n-wing) or if I wassailing
> by the lee(in which case I would set the mizzen to jibe first as abut
> warning for the bigger mainsail :-) )
> Hard to say,really, just how much of an effect a bigger house adds
> if it requires shortening the sail area,then you are sacrificingsome
> important driving force........otherwise its' presence may not befelt
> all that much.
>
> Just my thoughts :-)
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@...> wrote:
Having Roger on board is great good news! Hope he makes it!
As for coming about difficulties; I have found that depending on wind
strenghts,the Micro either has to be sailed either like a bigger boat
or a dinghy.That is,in light airs,you really want to keep up boat
speed as much as possible and sometimes it even helps if you fall off
a bit,pick up more speed,and then heave the tiller over smartly while
letting the mainsheet run. In heavier winds,I have found it helps to
steer the boat right through the eye of the wind while keeping the
main under tension.
Of course, with such a small boat,waves can hamper some of these
suggested manouvers and this is where I have sometimes times reverted
to simply reaching up,grabbing the main sprit-boom,and forced it into
the wind,thus pushing the bow through the eye of the wind.
Also, I have always kept the mizzen sheeted in tight unless running
straight downwind(where I liked to go wing-n-wing) or if I was sailing
by the lee(in which case I would set the mizzen to jibe first as a
warning for the bigger mainsail :-) )
Hard to say,really, just how much of an effect a bigger house adds but
if it requires shortening the sail area,then you are sacrificing some
important driving force........otherwise its' presence may not be felt
all that much.
Just my thoughts :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
>Greg,
> Hi Peter,
>
> Yes, the pictures are great and all we have to do now is get Roger
> used to the Yahoo Groups idea - and I think he will be joining very
> soon.
>
> The cabin does scare me a little and having been caught a few times
> where Matilda Jean wont come about when on the st'bd tack I wonder
> how it would be with that house on top? Much less, without a motor,
> as Roger has sailed Paloma Blanca.
Having Roger on board is great good news! Hope he makes it!
As for coming about difficulties; I have found that depending on wind
strenghts,the Micro either has to be sailed either like a bigger boat
or a dinghy.That is,in light airs,you really want to keep up boat
speed as much as possible and sometimes it even helps if you fall off
a bit,pick up more speed,and then heave the tiller over smartly while
letting the mainsheet run. In heavier winds,I have found it helps to
steer the boat right through the eye of the wind while keeping the
main under tension.
Of course, with such a small boat,waves can hamper some of these
suggested manouvers and this is where I have sometimes times reverted
to simply reaching up,grabbing the main sprit-boom,and forced it into
the wind,thus pushing the bow through the eye of the wind.
Also, I have always kept the mizzen sheeted in tight unless running
straight downwind(where I liked to go wing-n-wing) or if I was sailing
by the lee(in which case I would set the mizzen to jibe first as a
warning for the bigger mainsail :-) )
Hard to say,really, just how much of an effect a bigger house adds but
if it requires shortening the sail area,then you are sacrificing some
important driving force........otherwise its' presence may not be felt
all that much.
Just my thoughts :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
Hi Peter,
Yes, the pictures are great and all we have to do now is get Roger
used to the Yahoo Groups idea - and I think he will be joining very
soon.
The cabin does scare me a little and having been caught a few times
where Matilda Jean wont come about when on the st'bd tack I wonder
how it would be with that house on top? Much less, without a motor,
as Roger has sailed Paloma Blanca.
By the way, all, forgot to say (yet again) that the Paloma Blanca
pictures and story are in a file called Paloma Blanca in the Files
section of Bolger 7 Overflow Group.
Greg Flemming
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@...>
wrote:
Yes, the pictures are great and all we have to do now is get Roger
used to the Yahoo Groups idea - and I think he will be joining very
soon.
The cabin does scare me a little and having been caught a few times
where Matilda Jean wont come about when on the st'bd tack I wonder
how it would be with that house on top? Much less, without a motor,
as Roger has sailed Paloma Blanca.
By the way, all, forgot to say (yet again) that the Paloma Blanca
pictures and story are in a file called Paloma Blanca in the Files
section of Bolger 7 Overflow Group.
Greg Flemming
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <peterlenihan@...>
wrote:
>Paloma
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have just posted some more pictures of Roger Keyes' Micro,
> > Blanca, with the modified ("Navigator") cabin added.along :-)
>
> Thanks for the neat pictures Greg..and Roger for sending them
> While certainly a neat addition, that pilot house would take someeyes
> getting used to in busy congested waterways where one must keep
> peeled in all directions.Bolgers Navigator"all window" house isagainst
> perhaps better suited for the visiblity issues. Then again, I was
> always a bit of a lazy Micro sailor more prone to laying back
> the coaming to easy the travel of another cold one.Sitting bolt-
> upright or even kneeling up only occurred when passing(or being
> passed) by a boat load of bikini clad women :-D
>
> Looking forward to more Paloma Blanca stories!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan,ex-builder/owner of Micro LESTAT...........
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Flemming" <greg@...> wrote:
While certainly a neat addition, that pilot house would take some
getting used to in busy congested waterways where one must keep eyes
peeled in all directions.Bolgers Navigator"all window" house is
perhaps better suited for the visiblity issues. Then again, I was
always a bit of a lazy Micro sailor more prone to laying back against
the coaming to easy the travel of another cold one.Sitting bolt-
upright or even kneeling up only occurred when passing(or being
passed) by a boat load of bikini clad women :-D
Looking forward to more Paloma Blanca stories!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,ex-builder/owner of Micro LESTAT...........
>Thanks for the neat pictures Greg..and Roger for sending them along :-)
> Hello all,
>
> I have just posted some more pictures of Roger Keyes' Micro, Paloma
> Blanca, with the modified ("Navigator") cabin added.
While certainly a neat addition, that pilot house would take some
getting used to in busy congested waterways where one must keep eyes
peeled in all directions.Bolgers Navigator"all window" house is
perhaps better suited for the visiblity issues. Then again, I was
always a bit of a lazy Micro sailor more prone to laying back against
the coaming to easy the travel of another cold one.Sitting bolt-
upright or even kneeling up only occurred when passing(or being
passed) by a boat load of bikini clad women :-D
Looking forward to more Paloma Blanca stories!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,ex-builder/owner of Micro LESTAT...........
Hello all,
I have just posted some more pictures of Roger Keyes' Micro, Paloma
Blanca, with the modified ("Navigator") cabin added. Paloma Blanca is
well known in this part of the Globe (at least) due to Roger's
amazing exploits sailing her to Kangaroo Island and the South
Australian Gulfs - not easy sailing, you are getting very close
the "The Roaring Forties" down there!
Roger kindly sent the pictures via email from South Australia today,
and I will try to post an article from Australian Amateur Boat Builder
tomorrow, of Paloma Blanca, when she was first built with leeboards,
rather than the designed keel. Roger did this for specific, and
temporary reasons, and subsequently completed Paloma Blanca, as
designed. The keel enabled Roger & Paloma to sail the voyages that
she susequently did! - and was always intended to do
Great man, great boat, great place,
I have just posted some more pictures of Roger Keyes' Micro, Paloma
Blanca, with the modified ("Navigator") cabin added. Paloma Blanca is
well known in this part of the Globe (at least) due to Roger's
amazing exploits sailing her to Kangaroo Island and the South
Australian Gulfs - not easy sailing, you are getting very close
the "The Roaring Forties" down there!
Roger kindly sent the pictures via email from South Australia today,
and I will try to post an article from Australian Amateur Boat Builder
tomorrow, of Paloma Blanca, when she was first built with leeboards,
rather than the designed keel. Roger did this for specific, and
temporary reasons, and subsequently completed Paloma Blanca, as
designed. The keel enabled Roger & Paloma to sail the voyages that
she susequently did! - and was always intended to do
Great man, great boat, great place,