Re: [bolger] Re: Micro Plywood Thickness
Greetings Nels, I am a lurker on this board-Getting interested in building either a Micro or a San Francisco Pelican. I am interested in the link to Peter Lenihan's changes to the Micro (Lestat-?). Could I possibly see a copy of the letter from Phil referencing this Micro? I am willing to pay any costs incurred.
Thank you Reggie (Micro wanna be?)fiddlers__green@...
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Subject: [bolger] Re: Micro Plywood Thickness
Thank you Reggie (Micro wanna be?)fiddlers__green@...
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Subject: [bolger] Re: Micro Plywood Thickness
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com>, "Derek Waters" <dgw@...> wrote:
>
> Originally drawn as 1/4", IIRC. PCB suggests somewhere that the
bottom could
> stand to be doubled. Because the construction method is essentially
one of
> cladding bulkheads, adding to the thickness of the ply for sides
and bottom
> increases the overall hull volume, meaning the boat still sits on
her lines.
> It's my impression that most Micro's built are 3/8" sides and decks
with
> 1/2" bottoms, but that's purely anecdotal.
>
> In case you are unaware of the situation, PB&F do not regard CSB as
> legitimate plan retailers. You are likely to find that only plan
sets
> supplied from PB&F reflect the most current revisions.
>
> cheers
> Derek
>
Bolger was fully in support of the scantlings and additions for Peter
Lenihan's Micro Lestat when he was aboard at the 1993 Woodenboat Show.
I have a hand written mail from Phil from 2003 saying it
was "extremely well built."
Here is a link to Peters changes so you can't go wrong following them
as much as feasible considering present price realities for materials.
I would also love to see an article by Peter regarding his finishing
and painting schedules. The old pirate really has those techniques
down pat as well:-)
Nels
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My Micro is 1/4" per plans, and in my opinion, it is plenty strong
enough and anything stronger is over kill. Though, everybody is
entitled to an opinion.
enough and anything stronger is over kill. Though, everybody is
entitled to an opinion.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Waters" <dgw@...> wrote:
Lenihan's Micro Lestat when he was aboard at the 1993 Woodenboat Show.
I have a hand written mail from Phil from 2003 saying it
was "extremely well built."
Here is a link to Peters changes so you can't go wrong following them
as much as feasible considering present price realities for materials.
I would also love to see an article by Peter regarding his finishing
and painting schedules. The old pirate really has those techniques
down pat as well:-)
Nels
>bottom could
> Originally drawn as 1/4", IIRC. PCB suggests somewhere that the
> stand to be doubled. Because the construction method is essentiallyone of
> cladding bulkheads, adding to the thickness of the ply for sidesand bottom
> increases the overall hull volume, meaning the boat still sits onher lines.
> It's my impression that most Micro's built are 3/8" sides and deckswith
> 1/2" bottoms, but that's purely anecdotal.sets
>
> In case you are unaware of the situation, PB&F do not regard CSB as
> legitimate plan retailers. You are likely to find that only plan
> supplied from PB&F reflect the most current revisions.Bolger was fully in support of the scantlings and additions for Peter
>
> cheers
> Derek
>
Lenihan's Micro Lestat when he was aboard at the 1993 Woodenboat Show.
I have a hand written mail from Phil from 2003 saying it
was "extremely well built."
Here is a link to Peters changes so you can't go wrong following them
as much as feasible considering present price realities for materials.
I would also love to see an article by Peter regarding his finishing
and painting schedules. The old pirate really has those techniques
down pat as well:-)
Nels
I built my Micro in 1995 with 1/4" sides and doubled
(1/2") bottom. She floated to her lines just fine, and
certainly seemed sturdy enough. I did put an extra
piece of ply in the way of the keel-bolts, along with
oversized washers. That 400+ lbs of lead needs
something strong to hang from.
I sailed my Micro for several seasons and she held up
well. I sold her to a chap from Maine, and as far as I
know, she's still sailing.
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(1/2") bottom. She floated to her lines just fine, and
certainly seemed sturdy enough. I did put an extra
piece of ply in the way of the keel-bolts, along with
oversized washers. That 400+ lbs of lead needs
something strong to hang from.
I sailed my Micro for several seasons and she held up
well. I sold her to a chap from Maine, and as far as I
know, she's still sailing.
--- Derek Waters <dgw@...> wrote:
> Originally drawn as 1/4", IIRC. PCB suggests__________________________________________________
> somewhere that the bottom could
> stand to be doubled. Because the construction method
> is essentially one of
> cladding bulkheads, adding to the thickness of the
> ply for sides and bottom
> increases the overall hull volume, meaning the boat
> still sits on her lines.
> It's my impression that most Micro's built are 3/8"
> sides and decks with
> 1/2" bottoms, but that's purely anecdotal.
>
> In case you are unaware of the situation, PB&F do
> not regard CSB as
> legitimate plan retailers. You are likely to find
> that only plan sets
> supplied from PB&F reflect the most current
> revisions.
>
> cheers
> Derek
>
>
>
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Originally drawn as 1/4", IIRC. PCB suggests somewhere that the bottom could
stand to be doubled. Because the construction method is essentially one of
cladding bulkheads, adding to the thickness of the ply for sides and bottom
increases the overall hull volume, meaning the boat still sits on her lines.
It's my impression that most Micro's built are 3/8" sides and decks with
1/2" bottoms, but that's purely anecdotal.
In case you are unaware of the situation, PB&F do not regard CSB as
legitimate plan retailers. You are likely to find that only plan sets
supplied from PB&F reflect the most current revisions.
cheers
Derek
stand to be doubled. Because the construction method is essentially one of
cladding bulkheads, adding to the thickness of the ply for sides and bottom
increases the overall hull volume, meaning the boat still sits on her lines.
It's my impression that most Micro's built are 3/8" sides and decks with
1/2" bottoms, but that's purely anecdotal.
In case you are unaware of the situation, PB&F do not regard CSB as
legitimate plan retailers. You are likely to find that only plan sets
supplied from PB&F reflect the most current revisions.
cheers
Derek
On the Common Sense Boats website, it mentions 12 sheets of 1/4 or 3/8
plywood. Is the builder offered a choice of either?
Thanks,
Ron
plywood. Is the builder offered a choice of either?
Thanks,
Ron