Re: [bolger] Re: To Graeme, Nels, Peter and everyone...

Hi guys,:)

I think i've probably confused the hell out of everyone with the "embarrassing" post. One minute I'm Micro mad, then the next - ???

I think I need to add a postscript to the original message, clarifying my position rather. So - Graham, Nels, Peter - don't fuss yourselves trying to make sense of my senseless demands! ;-D

It might take me a few days - or more - for the reasons you all now appreciate - before I get the post done. Then, I trust you will see where I'm coming from...

Regards,
:)
Tony.

graeme19121984 <graeme19121984@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,

I'm sorry to hear of your wife's illness, but heartened to hear your
attitude and resolve. Good on you both, and all the best.

You've mentioned some mid-sized boats (I guess) like Birdwatcher,
and Blackskimmer, both sailboats with outboard auxillary. I take it
that the dinghy you're building is also probably sail, however I'm
not sure whether you are set on building a sailboat to accomodate
your on-water plans for you and Joan. You mention "it would be
wonderful if J could safely come along with me, on fine days, at
least", and in a sailboat those days would probably be best, but
also they would probably be calm and so not the best for cruising
around under sail. Also, anyone living with a serious physical
mobility problem might find access and egress for a Birdwatcher type
problematical. That said, there are some production design and
competition sailboats for the less able sailor. In Australia
Sailability (I think that's the organisation's name) run programs
using various types.

However, have you considered the advantages of a powerboat for your
project? On the water I think it would be much easier for you as
skipper to have a hand for both yourself and Joan, and another hand
for the boat. I'm not sure of how able Joan is, but if possible she
may even be able to helm a powerboat and thereby gain more enjoyment
from the experience. A small outboard and a lot of fuel can be had
for the cost of a good sailing rig. I'm no expert at all, but I
think an outboard powerboat (especially some of Mr Bolger's
minimilist designs) may be a simpler, easier, quicker, and cheaper,
for equivalent size, build. There are plenty, a Cabin Clam Skiff
may do, but what about an Idaho #556 - designed around a wheel chair?

"IDAHO - This boat I refer affectionately as the COMMONSENSE
CRUISER. She is a 31' X 5' power sharpie, great for cruising rivers,
large lakes and other inland waterways. She could be quite fast on
35hp. and will get 10+ knot hull speeds on less than 10 hp. This
boat was designed around a wheelchair and I look forward to finally
having a boat I don't have to struggle to use. Guess I am geting
older" (Bernie K Wolfard, Commonsense Designs 1991 Winter-Spring
Catalogue, PROTOTYPES page)(There's a scan in Bolger3)

Bernie broke his back in aero accidents, twice I think, and owned
the Commonsense Designs business when it was still held in good
regard by PCB&F (it most definately is not now, so contact PCB&F).

At any rate, why not drop a line to PCB&F? I'm sure you'd receive a
considered response. Over the years it seems a lot of specialist
designs have been commissioned from them by organisations and
individuals with different needs. Heck, most of PCB's designs are
possibly unknown, except to PCB&F, and I'm sure they could give you
the best help in choosing a design. Just state what you would like
to do in the boat, the kind of intended waters, and your ideas about
your ability, and capacity for the boatbuilding project. Hope this
helps.

Cheers
Graeme



--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
>>... Regarding the dinghy I'm building in the interim... Now I've
>sourced the timber and found a good batch of Far Eastern Meranti
>marine play, far from the best of materials but better than some,
>and good enough - I think - for a small boat which will, sadly, not
>be in the water too much due to domestic constraints :( Nevermind.
>I'm looking forward to the build with huge enthusiasm - the
>construction is a major part of the whole thing for me :-D The ply
>is due to be delivered this coming Wednesday, so, I guess I must
>regretfully slip into lurking-mode if I'm going to get any building
>done. I've enjoyed my mega-browse but, boy, have I used some time!
>...
>http://www.nexusmarine.com/skimmer_construction.html
>
> The Black Skimmer is an incredible beast!

>
>http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/bw2_main.htm

>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/centeredki69/album?.dir=/5592&.src=ph
>... Anyway... My wife, Joan, has advanced multiple-sclerosis and
>I am her sole carer, 24/7 and all that... I'm not seeking sympathy -
>"life's a beach, get on with it" - but it occured to me that
>Birdwatcher - seems the sort of platform that might feel secure (on
>a calm day) to a person who must sit in some comfort. ... Joan
>would really love Peter's floating pub, but I fear that might be a
>little beyond my time/cash/etc capabilities at this time...
>> And my dear Joan, of course, is one reason why time is
>especially tight for me, and why boat-building dreams (and actions)
>are so very necessary for my emotional welfare. (Hell, I'm
>dissolving into a verbal crap-fest! (blush-smiley)
>... I was more or less resigned towards being alone in any major-
>build type boat, but it would be wonderful if J could safely come
>along with me, on fine days, at least...

> Regards to all,







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Hi Tony,

I'm sorry to hear of your wife's illness, but heartened to hear your
attitude and resolve. Good on you both, and all the best.

You've mentioned some mid-sized boats (I guess) like Birdwatcher,
and Blackskimmer, both sailboats with outboard auxillary. I take it
that the dinghy you're building is also probably sail, however I'm
not sure whether you are set on building a sailboat to accomodate
your on-water plans for you and Joan. You mention "it would be
wonderful if J could safely come along with me, on fine days, at
least", and in a sailboat those days would probably be best, but
also they would probably be calm and so not the best for cruising
around under sail. Also, anyone living with a serious physical
mobility problem might find access and egress for a Birdwatcher type
problematical. That said, there are some production design and
competition sailboats for the less able sailor. In Australia
Sailability (I think that's the organisation's name) run programs
using various types.

However, have you considered the advantages of a powerboat for your
project? On the water I think it would be much easier for you as
skipper to have a hand for both yourself and Joan, and another hand
for the boat. I'm not sure of how able Joan is, but if possible she
may even be able to helm a powerboat and thereby gain more enjoyment
from the experience. A small outboard and a lot of fuel can be had
for the cost of a good sailing rig. I'm no expert at all, but I
think an outboard powerboat (especially some of Mr Bolger's
minimilist designs) may be a simpler, easier, quicker, and cheaper,
for equivalent size, build. There are plenty, a Cabin Clam Skiff
may do, but what about an Idaho #556 - designed around a wheel chair?

"IDAHO - This boat I refer affectionately as the COMMONSENSE
CRUISER. She is a 31' X 5' power sharpie, great for cruising rivers,
large lakes and other inland waterways. She could be quite fast on
35hp. and will get 10+ knot hull speeds on less than 10 hp. This
boat was designed around a wheelchair and I look forward to finally
having a boat I don't have to struggle to use. Guess I am geting
older" (Bernie K Wolfard, Commonsense Designs 1991 Winter-Spring
Catalogue, PROTOTYPES page)(There's a scan in Bolger3)

Bernie broke his back in aero accidents, twice I think, and owned
the Commonsense Designs business when it was still held in good
regard by PCB&F (it most definately is not now, so contact PCB&F).

At any rate, why not drop a line to PCB&F? I'm sure you'd receive a
considered response. Over the years it seems a lot of specialist
designs have been commissioned from them by organisations and
individuals with different needs. Heck, most of PCB's designs are
possibly unknown, except to PCB&F, and I'm sure they could give you
the best help in choosing a design. Just state what you would like
to do in the boat, the kind of intended waters, and your ideas about
your ability, and capacity for the boatbuilding project. Hope this
helps.

Cheers
Graeme



--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Anthony aka Magsman <magsman999@...>
>>... Regarding the dinghy I'm building in the interim... Now I've
>sourced the timber and found a good batch of Far Eastern Meranti
>marine play, far from the best of materials but better than some,
>and good enough - I think - for a small boat which will, sadly, not
>be in the water too much due to domestic constraints :( Nevermind.
>I'm looking forward to the build with huge enthusiasm - the
>construction is a major part of the whole thing for me :-D The ply
>is due to be delivered this coming Wednesday, so, I guess I must
>regretfully slip into lurking-mode if I'm going to get any building
>done. I've enjoyed my mega-browse but, boy, have I used some time!
>...
>http://www.nexusmarine.com/skimmer_construction.html
>
> The Black Skimmer is an incredible beast!

>
>http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/bw2_main.htm

>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/centeredki69/album?.dir=/5592&.src=ph
>... Anyway... My wife, Joan, has advanced multiple-sclerosis and
>I am her sole carer, 24/7 and all that... I'm not seeking sympathy -
>"life's a beach, get on with it" - but it occured to me that
>Birdwatcher - seems the sort of platform that might feel secure (on
>a calm day) to a person who must sit in some comfort. ... Joan
>would really love Peter's floating pub, but I fear that might be a
>little beyond my time/cash/etc capabilities at this time...
>> And my dear Joan, of course, is one reason why time is
>especially tight for me, and why boat-building dreams (and actions)
>are so very necessary for my emotional welfare. (Hell, I'm
>dissolving into a verbal crap-fest! (blush-smiley)
>... I was more or less resigned towards being alone in any major-
>build type boat, but it would be wonderful if J could safely come
>along with me, on fine days, at least...

> Regards to all,
Hello, Nels, Peter - guys,

Nels, I am quite sundered that Lestat should come to harm! Don't you know creatures of the night, like Lestat, should never be left out in the sun! It's a wonder she (or he - vampires can be flexible with gender I believe) has not blown away in a draught of hot ashes -

LOL!

Seriously, that is quite awful. That is one thing about the UK, the weather is temperate and such an event would be most unlikely here, I think.

Peter. I might have known you'd be building a floating pub - complete with pesky bar-staff! :o Now you've really upset my brewer's dray - ! want one of those too! - with potted palms floating in inflatable tubs, and a barbecue barge in tow. Paradise! I can visualise your pub-sign; - "Lady Windermere's Fan." ;-D

Well, I only came to this forum a couple of weeks ago, but I've browsed the files and photos, and learned something of Phil's unique design traits. Little wonder he has such a following.

Regarding the dinghy I'm building in the interim. I told a white lie by suggesting I was already busy with it when I only purchased the plans a short while before joining this excellent group. Now I've sourced the timber and found a good batch of Far Eastern Meranti marine play, far from the best of materials but better than some, and good enough - I think - for a small boat which will, sadly, not be in the water too much due to domestic constraints :( Nevermind. I'm looking forward to the build with huge enthusiasm - the construction is a major part of the whole thing for me :-D The ply is due to be delivered this coming Wednesday, so, I guess I must regretfully slip into lurking-mode if I'm going to get any building done. I've enjoyed my mega-browse but, boy, have I used some time!
One of the things I like best is the member's - and professional - websites with constructional photographs. Whatever the actual boat is does not matter. Just looking at the development in stages, at the tools and benchwork, etc - I can (and do) study them for ages. A good example of these sites is the Nexus; -

http://www.nexusmarine.com/skimmer_construction.html

The Black Skimmer is an incredible beast!
But that is just one site. There are some incredible Birdwatcher builds for example; and that's a boat I did not care too much for when I first saw it, but now I'm knocked out by its unique charms...

Bob's: -

http://www.proaxis.com/~boblark/bw2_main.htm

Also: -

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/centeredki69/album?.dir=/5592&.src=ph

I know I don't need to re-post these links as they are in the files, but I want to acknowledge just a couple of the sites through which - starting with Peter (and Nel's!) Lestat - I've learned so much in such a short time. This is such an invaluable resource for new guys like me.
BTW: - Peter, I agree with Nels, I'd like to see some finishing shots of Lestat if they are available. My Lestat file is a little lacking between the keel-shots and the Messabout ;-D

Now, I shall suck in a breath, and lose my Brit stiff-upper-lip shyness and private nature, by making a statement that I'm uncomfortable with for some dumb (probably ego-related) reason. The other night I let this information slip out on another forum and felt annoyed with myself for ages. (Strange creatures, we humans ;-)
Anyway... My wife, Joan, has advanced multiple-sclerosis and I am her sole carer, 24/7 and all that... I'm not seeking sympathy - "life's a beach, get on with it" - but it occured to me that Birdwatcher - seems the sort of platform that might feel secure (on a calm day) to a person who must sit in some comfort. I've also seen less visually attractive (to me), smaller birdwatcher types (not necessarily by our esteemed designer, if I'm allowed to say that?) which also seem to have this sense of security. So, if I might ask, does anyone have any experience of boating with a disabled loved one, at all?... Joan would really love Peter's floating pub, but I fear that might be a little beyond my time/cash/etc capabilities at this time - and forever :( (but never say never. I'm an optimist at heart ;-) I would really value information in this regard: - boats, safety, experiences, etc...

There, that's out. (I am so dumb, to make it a big issue. 'Must be some deep-seated insecurity LOL! ;-D)

And my dear Joan, of course, is one reason why time is especially tight for me, and why boat-building dreams (and actions) are so very necessary for my emotional welfare. (Hell, I'm dissolving into a verbal crap-fest! (blush-smiley)

Enough! So, before I slip into lurk - which will eventually mean I must switch daily-e-mails off, as they are so wonderfully time-consuming - can I beg any advice on this delicate subject? I was more or less resigned towards being alone in any major-build type boat, but it would be wonderful if J could safely come along with me, on fine days, at least...

I guess I'd better wind up by apologising both for the past, and the inevitable future, shortcomings in my e-mail responses. But now you know the domestic source of my tardiness. I'm really not careless or idle - honest, guys! ;-D lol

Now it is 08.46am in the North East UK on a fine, sunny Sunday morning, on which it is so good to be alive! And her ladyship requires her breakfast. (She enjoyed a lie-in whilst I thoroughly enjoyed myself checking out links and catching up - I wish! - with my e-mails :-D

Regards to all,

Tony.




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The elephant of the mind is tethered all around,
Our fears will come to nothing,
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