Re: Family motor cruiser - Tennessee?
Thanks, Pete and Chester, for your comments.
Unfortunately, you are both voicing doubts that I had myself.
Guess I'll have to keep looking.
Cheers,
Matthew
Unfortunately, you are both voicing doubts that I had myself.
Guess I'll have to keep looking.
Cheers,
Matthew
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chester Young" <chester@...> wrote:
>
> Matthew:
>
> Caloosarat here; Recently purchased a Tennessee ( Esther Mae) and have
> photos posted in the main Bolger Group. I can not speak to wave conditions
> of any size above moderate chop, which the boat handles without problems,
> wind on the other hand is an issue. Esther Mae has a 25hp four stroke.
> Based on my experience of hundreds of hours using a 9.9 on various vessels
> leaves me with the opinion that a Tennessee with a 9.9 would be difficult to
> pilot with wind in excess of 15 knots. The long forward section without any
> lateral resistance makes turning into and running parallel with the wind a
> challenge, docking is a considered exercise in controlled contact into the
> dock itself. I would be very reluctant to tackle a 100 mile body of open
> water in a Tennessee as I really doubt that the design was intended for such
> duty.
>
> Caloosarat
>
> _____
>
> From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> The Peillet-Long Family
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:22 AM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Family motor cruiser - Tennessee?
>
>
>
> Hello again, all!
>
> I am still ruminating on possible boats to build or have built in
> Tunisia, and I have had another idea (I'd better sit down).
>
> The Tennessee motor cruiser is well known to this group, and would
> suit my needs in terms performance (8-10 knots is plenty) and
> accommodations (two in the cabin, a few more in the cockpit, even in
> a tent). If I were to build the boat myself, it seems well-suited
> for coastal cruising and island-hopping.
>
> Plus, I've always liked it, it would be easy and inexpensive to
> build, trailer and operate (9.9 hp four-stroke) and I already have
> the plans.
>
> I hear that the Mediterranean can be unexpectedly rough, with
> occasional clear-sky gale and other weather twists, though I would
> certainly plan to avoid such things if possible. We might also want
> to make the hop to Sicily (60 miles) or Sardinia (100 miles).
>
> Any of our Tennessee builders/owners/fans care to comment on whether
> or not Tennessee would really be up to this kind of use, in terms of
> seaworthiness? Perhaps an Aussie in the group (I hear there are
> quite a few down that way) has some comments on the boat in rough
> water?
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Matthew in Luxembourg (for now)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Matthew:
Caloosarat here; Recently purchased a Tennessee ( Esther Mae) and have
photos posted in the main Bolger Group. I can not speak to wave conditions
of any size above moderate chop, which the boat handles without problems,
wind on the other hand is an issue. Esther Mae has a 25hp four stroke.
Based on my experience of hundreds of hours using a 9.9 on various vessels
leaves me with the opinion that a Tennessee with a 9.9 would be difficult to
pilot with wind in excess of 15 knots. The long forward section without any
lateral resistance makes turning into and running parallel with the wind a
challenge, docking is a considered exercise in controlled contact into the
dock itself. I would be very reluctant to tackle a 100 mile body of open
water in a Tennessee as I really doubt that the design was intended for such
duty.
Caloosarat
_____
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
The Peillet-Long Family
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:22 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Family motor cruiser - Tennessee?
Hello again, all!
I am still ruminating on possible boats to build or have built in
Tunisia, and I have had another idea (I'd better sit down).
The Tennessee motor cruiser is well known to this group, and would
suit my needs in terms performance (8-10 knots is plenty) and
accommodations (two in the cabin, a few more in the cockpit, even in
a tent). If I were to build the boat myself, it seems well-suited
for coastal cruising and island-hopping.
Plus, I've always liked it, it would be easy and inexpensive to
build, trailer and operate (9.9 hp four-stroke) and I already have
the plans.
I hear that the Mediterranean can be unexpectedly rough, with
occasional clear-sky gale and other weather twists, though I would
certainly plan to avoid such things if possible. We might also want
to make the hop to Sicily (60 miles) or Sardinia (100 miles).
Any of our Tennessee builders/owners/fans care to comment on whether
or not Tennessee would really be up to this kind of use, in terms of
seaworthiness? Perhaps an Aussie in the group (I hear there are
quite a few down that way) has some comments on the boat in rough
water?
Thanks and regards,
Matthew in Luxembourg (for now)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Caloosarat here; Recently purchased a Tennessee ( Esther Mae) and have
photos posted in the main Bolger Group. I can not speak to wave conditions
of any size above moderate chop, which the boat handles without problems,
wind on the other hand is an issue. Esther Mae has a 25hp four stroke.
Based on my experience of hundreds of hours using a 9.9 on various vessels
leaves me with the opinion that a Tennessee with a 9.9 would be difficult to
pilot with wind in excess of 15 knots. The long forward section without any
lateral resistance makes turning into and running parallel with the wind a
challenge, docking is a considered exercise in controlled contact into the
dock itself. I would be very reluctant to tackle a 100 mile body of open
water in a Tennessee as I really doubt that the design was intended for such
duty.
Caloosarat
_____
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
The Peillet-Long Family
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:22 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Family motor cruiser - Tennessee?
Hello again, all!
I am still ruminating on possible boats to build or have built in
Tunisia, and I have had another idea (I'd better sit down).
The Tennessee motor cruiser is well known to this group, and would
suit my needs in terms performance (8-10 knots is plenty) and
accommodations (two in the cabin, a few more in the cockpit, even in
a tent). If I were to build the boat myself, it seems well-suited
for coastal cruising and island-hopping.
Plus, I've always liked it, it would be easy and inexpensive to
build, trailer and operate (9.9 hp four-stroke) and I already have
the plans.
I hear that the Mediterranean can be unexpectedly rough, with
occasional clear-sky gale and other weather twists, though I would
certainly plan to avoid such things if possible. We might also want
to make the hop to Sicily (60 miles) or Sardinia (100 miles).
Any of our Tennessee builders/owners/fans care to comment on whether
or not Tennessee would really be up to this kind of use, in terms of
seaworthiness? Perhaps an Aussie in the group (I hear there are
quite a few down that way) has some comments on the boat in rough
water?
Thanks and regards,
Matthew in Luxembourg (for now)
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> I am still ruminating on possible boats to build or have built inI always assumed that the name Tennessee was picked for the
> Tunisia, and I have had another idea (I'd better sit down).
association with the Tennesee Valley Authority, i.e. for the purpose
of cruising on large inland lakes. The use the names Wyoming and
Dakota for other designs pretty much disprove that hypothesis, but,
IMHO, the boat is designed for flat water, and I would not choose it
for a trip across 100 miles of open sea. Bolger has certainly designed
any number of suitable boats, but there aren't too many in his books.
If it were my choice, I would be looking toward something more like
the Jack Tar or Jiffy V-22 by Arch Davis.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/
By the way, speed is a safety feature. It cuts down the length of the
weather window.
Peter
Hello again, all!
I am still ruminating on possible boats to build or have built in
Tunisia, and I have had another idea (I'd better sit down).
The Tennessee motor cruiser is well known to this group, and would
suit my needs in terms performance (8-10 knots is plenty) and
accommodations (two in the cabin, a few more in the cockpit, even in
a tent). If I were to build the boat myself, it seems well-suited
for coastal cruising and island-hopping.
Plus, I've always liked it, it would be easy and inexpensive to
build, trailer and operate (9.9 hp four-stroke) and I already have
the plans.
I hear that the Mediterranean can be unexpectedly rough, with
occasional clear-sky gale and other weather twists, though I would
certainly plan to avoid such things if possible. We might also want
to make the hop to Sicily (60 miles) or Sardinia (100 miles).
Any of our Tennessee builders/owners/fans care to comment on whether
or not Tennessee would really be up to this kind of use, in terms of
seaworthiness? Perhaps an Aussie in the group (I hear there are
quite a few down that way) has some comments on the boat in rough
water?
Thanks and regards,
Matthew in Luxembourg (for now)
I am still ruminating on possible boats to build or have built in
Tunisia, and I have had another idea (I'd better sit down).
The Tennessee motor cruiser is well known to this group, and would
suit my needs in terms performance (8-10 knots is plenty) and
accommodations (two in the cabin, a few more in the cockpit, even in
a tent). If I were to build the boat myself, it seems well-suited
for coastal cruising and island-hopping.
Plus, I've always liked it, it would be easy and inexpensive to
build, trailer and operate (9.9 hp four-stroke) and I already have
the plans.
I hear that the Mediterranean can be unexpectedly rough, with
occasional clear-sky gale and other weather twists, though I would
certainly plan to avoid such things if possible. We might also want
to make the hop to Sicily (60 miles) or Sardinia (100 miles).
Any of our Tennessee builders/owners/fans care to comment on whether
or not Tennessee would really be up to this kind of use, in terms of
seaworthiness? Perhaps an Aussie in the group (I hear there are
quite a few down that way) has some comments on the boat in rough
water?
Thanks and regards,
Matthew in Luxembourg (for now)