Re: [bolger] Re: Outboards for Micro
Mark,
I've run the 5 hp honda four stroke on my micro for eight years. In that
time two plastic items have broke neither of which prevented normal runnnig.
I also had to resort to using stainless steel shear pins as the torque of
the engine would tend to break the standard pins over time My engine is a
standard shaft length can't imagine why Phil suggested the long.
Buck
I've run the 5 hp honda four stroke on my micro for eight years. In that
time two plastic items have broke neither of which prevented normal runnnig.
I also had to resort to using stainless steel shear pins as the torque of
the engine would tend to break the standard pins over time My engine is a
standard shaft length can't imagine why Phil suggested the long.
Buck
>From: Mark Balogh <mark@...>
>Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Outboards for Micro
>Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:54:41 -0400
>
>Micro fans,
>
>About a week ago I posed a question to the list regarding short and
>long shaft outboards for Micro. First I want to thank everyone who
>took the time and effort to relate their experiences. Your pretty much
>unanimous reply had pretty much swayed me from long shaft to short. I
>had also sent a fax to Mr. Bolger with the same question mentioning
>the manufacturers measurements for the new outboard in question but
>was not sure I would get a reply. I got my reply today and just so
>everyone can be as surprised as I am Mr. Bolger's reply was "Recommend
>the long shaft." He also related that "Anecdotes and photos of the
>boat in use are appreciated." Thanks again for the input.
>
>Mark
>
Micro fans,
About a week ago I posed a question to the list regarding short and
long shaft outboards for Micro. First I want to thank everyone who
took the time and effort to relate their experiences. Your pretty much
unanimous reply had pretty much swayed me from long shaft to short. I
had also sent a fax to Mr. Bolger with the same question mentioning
the manufacturers measurements for the new outboard in question but
was not sure I would get a reply. I got my reply today and just so
everyone can be as surprised as I am Mr. Bolger's reply was "Recommend
the long shaft." He also related that "Anecdotes and photos of the
boat in use are appreciated." Thanks again for the input.
Mark
About a week ago I posed a question to the list regarding short and
long shaft outboards for Micro. First I want to thank everyone who
took the time and effort to relate their experiences. Your pretty much
unanimous reply had pretty much swayed me from long shaft to short. I
had also sent a fax to Mr. Bolger with the same question mentioning
the manufacturers measurements for the new outboard in question but
was not sure I would get a reply. I got my reply today and just so
everyone can be as surprised as I am Mr. Bolger's reply was "Recommend
the long shaft." He also related that "Anecdotes and photos of the
boat in use are appreciated." Thanks again for the input.
Mark
Very interesting, but not completely new.
For similar tech, see the efforts of the toy makers, some of the most
creative engineers on the planet. The electric powered radio control
aircraft use the same elements as Torqeedo; e.g.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0093p?&C=GHG&P=ML
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm
For similar tech, see the efforts of the toy makers, some of the most
creative engineers on the planet. The electric powered radio control
aircraft use the same elements as Torqeedo; e.g.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0093p?&C=GHG&P=ML
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Nohn" <nohnmusik@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:21 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Outboards for Micro
> Hallo to all,
>
> Maybe an alternative. Elektric outboards. I've seen them on a market.
> They are complet new technology. See at:
>
>http://www.torqeedo.com/
>
> Best to all
> Stefan
>
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Before my eyes, when I moved something off screen. Clyde
Clyde Wisner wrote:
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>great. Clyde
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>>Hallo to all,
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>>Maybe an alternative. Elektric outboards. I've seen them on a market.
>>They are complet new technology. See at:
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>>http://www.torqeedo.com/
>>
>>Best to all
>>Stefan
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on 7/10/06 10:09 AM, Clyde Wisner atclydewis@...wrote:
http://www.torqeedo.com/en/hn/home.html
Máximo.
> Hi Stefan, If you communicate with them, an English version would beClyde, there is an english version
> great. Clyde
http://www.torqeedo.com/en/hn/home.html
Máximo.
Hi Stefan, If you communicate with them, an English version would be
great. Clyde
Stefan Nohn wrote:
great. Clyde
Stefan Nohn wrote:
>Hallo to all,
>
>Maybe an alternative. Elektric outboards. I've seen them on a market.
>They are complet new technology. See at:
>
>http://www.torqeedo.com/
>
>Best to all
>Stefan
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Hallo to all,
Maybe an alternative. Elektric outboards. I've seen them on a market.
They are complet new technology. See at:
http://www.torqeedo.com/
Best to all
Stefan
Maybe an alternative. Elektric outboards. I've seen them on a market.
They are complet new technology. See at:
http://www.torqeedo.com/
Best to all
Stefan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Balogh <mark@...> wrote:
The Esther Mae (Bolger Tennessee) is outfitted with a 25 hp four
stroke Yamaha. Much larger that you will be needing, but a Yamaha
none the less. It is a 2000 year model and when I purchased (last
December) it was already equipped with a hour meter / tach,
(discovered sh0ortlyu after purchase due to the mounting location
inside the aft compartment) indicating an even 100 hours. Since
Christamas Eve, (day of purchase) I have added another 180 hours.
Also replaced the spark plugs and fuel filters, now due for an oil
change and appears to be in need of a tune-up since the tach only
indicates 4200 rpm, way short of the 5000 - 6000 represented in the
manual. I have purchased a lower pitch prop through the local dealer
and it only gained 200 rpm while dropping 2 mph on top speed. In
this time we have logged over 1000 miles on the GPS and had nary a
worry about performance. It hums line a sewing machine, pushes the
Esther Mae at 12 mph with 2 on board with gear for overnight trips.
Two long runs of 40 mph one way without stopping and a several 30
mile runs give 10 mpg consistently. Mr Bolger expressed great
interest in seeing data on fuel economy at lower speeds, as they
should be fantastic. My local dealer has been very helpful to me
with prop choices, parts for the engine etc. If the need arises to
repower, at this point it would definitely be a Yamaha.
Caloosarat
Previously a 30 year, 2-stroke Evinrude fan (all saltwater use).
>strokes?
> Thanks Greg and all who replied. This is the type of information I
> needed.
> Anybody have any reliability comments regarding the Yamaha 4
>Greg:
> Thanks
> Mark
>
The Esther Mae (Bolger Tennessee) is outfitted with a 25 hp four
stroke Yamaha. Much larger that you will be needing, but a Yamaha
none the less. It is a 2000 year model and when I purchased (last
December) it was already equipped with a hour meter / tach,
(discovered sh0ortlyu after purchase due to the mounting location
inside the aft compartment) indicating an even 100 hours. Since
Christamas Eve, (day of purchase) I have added another 180 hours.
Also replaced the spark plugs and fuel filters, now due for an oil
change and appears to be in need of a tune-up since the tach only
indicates 4200 rpm, way short of the 5000 - 6000 represented in the
manual. I have purchased a lower pitch prop through the local dealer
and it only gained 200 rpm while dropping 2 mph on top speed. In
this time we have logged over 1000 miles on the GPS and had nary a
worry about performance. It hums line a sewing machine, pushes the
Esther Mae at 12 mph with 2 on board with gear for overnight trips.
Two long runs of 40 mph one way without stopping and a several 30
mile runs give 10 mpg consistently. Mr Bolger expressed great
interest in seeing data on fuel economy at lower speeds, as they
should be fantastic. My local dealer has been very helpful to me
with prop choices, parts for the engine etc. If the need arises to
repower, at this point it would definitely be a Yamaha.
Caloosarat
Previously a 30 year, 2-stroke Evinrude fan (all saltwater use).
Thanks Greg and all who replied. This is the type of information I
needed. If I can get by with the short shaft all the better. It is 2
lbs. lighter and 5" smaller to handle.
Anybody have any reliability comments regarding the Yamaha 4 strokes?
Thanks
Mark
needed. If I can get by with the short shaft all the better. It is 2
lbs. lighter and 5" smaller to handle.
Anybody have any reliability comments regarding the Yamaha 4 strokes?
Thanks
Mark
On Jul 7, 2006, at 5:35 AM, Greg Flemming wrote:
> Sorry for not replying earlier but only just sighted this post. As
> far as I am aware Matilda Jean is built to plan and the long shaft
> motors do not clear the water when tilted up (if you can tilt them
> up provided the cowling over the motor is not too big, as is the
> case with the 4hp 4 stroke Yamaha)
>
> If you look at the photo of Micro, Cricket in the files section of
> the Bolger Overflow Group 7 in a file called Australian Micros, you
> will see a great photo of Cricket which sports a Yamaha 5 hp motor,
> and the transom has been modified so that the motor can clear the
> top of the transom cut-out.
>
> The Micro of Peter de Boer in Holland also sports the same modifed
> transom (see article in Water Craft No 29 of Sept/Oct 2001) As do
> several others, of course)
>
> The point is that the motor will far enough into the water, even as
> a short shaft, so you do not need a long shaft on Micro, I think?
>
> Greg F
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Sorry for not replying earlier but only just sighted this post. As
far as I am aware Matilda Jean is built to plan and the long shaft
motors do not clear the water when tilted up (if you can tilt them
up provided the cowling over the motor is not too big, as is the
case with the 4hp 4 stroke Yamaha)
If you look at the photo of Micro, Cricket in the files section of
the Bolger Overflow Group 7 in a file called Australian Micros, you
will see a great photo of Cricket which sports a Yamaha 5 hp motor,
and the transom has been modified so that the motor can clear the
top of the transom cut-out.
The Micro of Peter de Boer in Holland also sports the same modifed
transom (see article in Water Craft No 29 of Sept/Oct 2001) As do
several others, of course)
The point is that the motor will far enough into the water, even as
a short shaft, so you do not need a long shaft on Micro, I think?
Greg F
far as I am aware Matilda Jean is built to plan and the long shaft
motors do not clear the water when tilted up (if you can tilt them
up provided the cowling over the motor is not too big, as is the
case with the 4hp 4 stroke Yamaha)
If you look at the photo of Micro, Cricket in the files section of
the Bolger Overflow Group 7 in a file called Australian Micros, you
will see a great photo of Cricket which sports a Yamaha 5 hp motor,
and the transom has been modified so that the motor can clear the
top of the transom cut-out.
The Micro of Peter de Boer in Holland also sports the same modifed
transom (see article in Water Craft No 29 of Sept/Oct 2001) As do
several others, of course)
The point is that the motor will far enough into the water, even as
a short shaft, so you do not need a long shaft on Micro, I think?
Greg F
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Balogh <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Greg and others who have answered,
>
> Thanks for the feedback
> It seems like the long shaft would be good if one is pitching but
you
> seem to prefer the short. The measurements I have indicate that
if you
> can raise the engine completely it would clear the water. Could
you
> please elaborate on why you would prefer the short shaft 4hp?
> Mark
>
> On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Greg Flemming wrote:
>
> > Hello Mark
> >
> > Generally we use the 4hp 4 stroke Yamaha that the boat came
with, but
> > it does not allow the motor to tilt up out of the water
(standard
> > opening). A long shaft British Seagull Silver Century will tilt
up OK
> > but the prop will still just skim the water. a 3.5 Tohatsu 2
stroke
> > fits OK but not so good when motoring into a good wind and
against the
> > tide! 4 HP Yamaha is generally ideal (if it fitted opening and
was a
> > short shaft!)
> >
> > Greg F Micro, Matilda Jean
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bsdbatwing" <mark@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Micro sailors,
> > > What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro?
Does it
> > fit
> > > in the standard transom opening?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
FYI -
Holt/Allen makes an aluminum traveller that should do the trick
quite nicely as well. I got mine at Annapolis Performance Sailing
products. It is plenty strong as we frequently lift our dinghy with
it (265lbs) with no failures in 40 years. Just use hardwood such as
mahogony, teak, or oak across the top faces of your cut out transom
to hold the screws 1.5" should be sufficient.
David Jost
Peter installed a
Holt/Allen makes an aluminum traveller that should do the trick
quite nicely as well. I got mine at Annapolis Performance Sailing
products. It is plenty strong as we frequently lift our dinghy with
it (265lbs) with no failures in 40 years. Just use hardwood such as
mahogony, teak, or oak across the top faces of your cut out transom
to hold the screws 1.5" should be sufficient.
David Jost
Peter installed a
> bronze traveller that was raised high enough to give more room for
> the motor head to clear the opening when raised. It can be just
> barely seen in the photo at Bolger 3 in the Lestat folder.
>
>http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/photos/view/624d?b=31
>
>http://tinyurl.com/nt966
>
> The B&S motors might be another option - eith 4-stroke or electic.
>
>http://www.briggsandstratton.com/display/router.asp?DocID=76266
>
>http://tinyurl.com/peb7g
>
> Nels
>
On the Micro I built (reportedly headed in tow towards Cape Cod on
July 3rd) I used a 1974 Evinrude longshaft outboard. The cowl cleared
the combing/traveller by a smidqeon. Worked best if tilted slightly
left or right. The prop was just at the base of the keel. It looked
to be about perfect at 20" below the transom top.
This was a wonderful little boat. I am getting up the nerve to start
making the mast for Birdwatcher, but need to finish reconditioning the
1968 Enterprise first.
Life is good, when those are the toughest choices to make this week.
David Jost
"awaiting fair winds and good weather in New England"
July 3rd) I used a 1974 Evinrude longshaft outboard. The cowl cleared
the combing/traveller by a smidqeon. Worked best if tilted slightly
left or right. The prop was just at the base of the keel. It looked
to be about perfect at 20" below the transom top.
This was a wonderful little boat. I am getting up the nerve to start
making the mast for Birdwatcher, but need to finish reconditioning the
1968 Enterprise first.
Life is good, when those are the toughest choices to make this week.
David Jost
"awaiting fair winds and good weather in New England"
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Balogh <mark@...> wrote:
to below the protective shield of the keel? Depending of course
on "how long" the shaft actually is. On Lestat, Peter installed a
bronze traveller that was raised high enough to give more room for
the motor head to clear the opening when raised. It can be just
barely seen in the photo at Bolger 3 in the Lestat folder.
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/photos/view/624d?b=31
http://tinyurl.com/nt966
The B&S motors might be another option - eith 4-stroke or electic.
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/display/router.asp?DocID=76266
http://tinyurl.com/peb7g
Nels
>your
> Thanks Bruce,
> If I recall your boat you have side decks all the way back to the
> transom that would take some of the fore and aft mizzen load with
> top bar omitted, is that correct? Also thanks for the shaftfeedback.
> I would have thought there was a time when pitching into a shortslop
> that prop on a short shaft would be sucking air.I would suggest that a long shaft may expose the bottom of the prop
> Mark
>
to below the protective shield of the keel? Depending of course
on "how long" the shaft actually is. On Lestat, Peter installed a
bronze traveller that was raised high enough to give more room for
the motor head to clear the opening when raised. It can be just
barely seen in the photo at Bolger 3 in the Lestat folder.
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/photos/view/624d?b=31
http://tinyurl.com/nt966
The B&S motors might be another option - eith 4-stroke or electic.
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/display/router.asp?DocID=76266
http://tinyurl.com/peb7g
Nels
It's not as good as some of the drawings I've seen for American engines, but Yamaha makes the owner's manual available on line athttp://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/service/viewmanuals/viewmanuals.aspx?ls=outboardand page 20, Specifications, for the 2.5 hp unit includes the measurements.
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm
Roger
derbyrm@...
http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Balogh
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Outboards for Micro
Buck,
Thanks for the reply. The two Yamahas are the ones I am considering
which is why I am polling about hp. I found measurements for the 4hp
and it won't fit but can't find measurements for the 2hp. The dealer
is a 2.5 hour drive so can't conveniently look in person. I am
contemplating modifications and would be happy to see what you have
done. I am thinking of either opening the top of the motor slot and
reinforcing the transom for the mizzen forces without the continuous
cap. The other option is to build up the top of the transom into an
arch with a laminated cap. Any input of successful solutions is
welcome. My email is below your post.
Thanks again.
Mark
On Jul 5, 2006, at 1:49 AM, 9buck crowley wrote:
> Mark
>
> I use a five horse honda four stroke. A great motor and no it doesnt
> fit in
> the standard opening. I could send you a picture of my solution which
> has
> worked out very well. I think it's a little more power than my boat
> needs.
> Mostly it runs the boat at close to hull speed at just above idle.
> We're I
> to do it again I would go for the 4hp Yamaha four stroke or even the
> 2.5hp
> to save weight in the end of the boat and to run the motor at a more
> optimal
> rpm.
>
> Buck
>
> >From: "bsdbatwing" <mark@...>
> >Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> >To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [bolger] Outboards for Micro
> >Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:49:07 -0000
> >
> >Hello Micro sailors,
> >What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it fit
> >in the standard transom opening?
> >Thanks,
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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On 7/5/06, Mark Balogh <mark@...> wrote:
mizzen load. Regardless, the mizzen isn't very big, so I wouldn't
lose sleep worrying about mizzen load.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/238506707/1238507709051159125iuLqLY
Compare the actual waterline, to the painted waterline.
At speed, the wake rises up six inches at the stem and stern, (and
dips 6" at midships). To my eye, there is zero chance of 'pitching
out' with a short shaft, in any condition.
> Thanks Bruce,Yes, I enlarged the size of the 'aft deck' which would take some
> If I recall your boat you have side decks all the way back to the
> transom that would take some of the fore and aft mizzen load with your
> top bar omitted, is that correct?
mizzen load. Regardless, the mizzen isn't very big, so I wouldn't
lose sleep worrying about mizzen load.
>Also thanks for the shaft feedback.Visible in this photo:
> I would have thought there was a time when pitching into a short slop
> that prop on a short shaft would be sucking air.
> Mark
http://community.webshots.com/photo/238506707/1238507709051159125iuLqLY
Compare the actual waterline, to the painted waterline.
At speed, the wake rises up six inches at the stem and stern, (and
dips 6" at midships). To my eye, there is zero chance of 'pitching
out' with a short shaft, in any condition.
Along the same topic. If anybody has feedback on shaft length
experience for Micro outboards or any comments on reliability of a
given outboard, I would be appreciative. Thanks in advance, Mark
experience for Micro outboards or any comments on reliability of a
given outboard, I would be appreciative. Thanks in advance, Mark
Thanks Bruce,
If I recall your boat you have side decks all the way back to the
transom that would take some of the fore and aft mizzen load with your
top bar omitted, is that correct? Also thanks for the shaft feedback.
I would have thought there was a time when pitching into a short slop
that prop on a short shaft would be sucking air.
Mark
If I recall your boat you have side decks all the way back to the
transom that would take some of the fore and aft mizzen load with your
top bar omitted, is that correct? Also thanks for the shaft feedback.
I would have thought there was a time when pitching into a short slop
that prop on a short shaft would be sucking air.
Mark
On Jul 5, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Bruce Hallman wrote:
> > It seems like the long shaft would be good if one is pitching but you
> > seem to prefer the short.
>
> My 9.9 hp Honda 4 stroke is too large, and I just omitted the top bar
> on the transom opening.
>
> Also, there is NO need for a long shaft.
>
>
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> It seems like the long shaft would be good if one is pitching but youMy 9.9 hp Honda 4 stroke is too large, and I just omitted the top bar
> seem to prefer the short.
on the transom opening.
Also, there is NO need for a long shaft.
Greg and others who have answered,
Thanks for the feedback
It seems like the long shaft would be good if one is pitching but you
seem to prefer the short. The measurements I have indicate that if you
can raise the engine completely it would clear the water. Could you
please elaborate on why you would prefer the short shaft 4hp?
Mark
Thanks for the feedback
It seems like the long shaft would be good if one is pitching but you
seem to prefer the short. The measurements I have indicate that if you
can raise the engine completely it would clear the water. Could you
please elaborate on why you would prefer the short shaft 4hp?
Mark
On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Greg Flemming wrote:
> Hello Mark
>
> Generally we use the 4hp 4 stroke Yamaha that the boat came with, but
> it does not allow the motor to tilt up out of the water (standard
> opening). A long shaft British Seagull Silver Century will tilt up OK
> but the prop will still just skim the water. a 3.5 Tohatsu 2 stroke
> fits OK but not so good when motoring into a good wind and against the
> tide! 4 HP Yamaha is generally ideal (if it fitted opening and was a
> short shaft!)
>
> Greg F Micro, Matilda Jean
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bsdbatwing" <mark@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Micro sailors,
> > What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it
> fit
> > in the standard transom opening?
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
>
>
>
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Buck,
Thanks for the reply. The two Yamahas are the ones I am considering
which is why I am polling about hp. I found measurements for the 4hp
and it won't fit but can't find measurements for the 2hp. The dealer
is a 2.5 hour drive so can't conveniently look in person. I am
contemplating modifications and would be happy to see what you have
done. I am thinking of either opening the top of the motor slot and
reinforcing the transom for the mizzen forces without the continuous
cap. The other option is to build up the top of the transom into an
arch with a laminated cap. Any input of successful solutions is
welcome. My email is below your post.
Thanks again.
Mark
Thanks for the reply. The two Yamahas are the ones I am considering
which is why I am polling about hp. I found measurements for the 4hp
and it won't fit but can't find measurements for the 2hp. The dealer
is a 2.5 hour drive so can't conveniently look in person. I am
contemplating modifications and would be happy to see what you have
done. I am thinking of either opening the top of the motor slot and
reinforcing the transom for the mizzen forces without the continuous
cap. The other option is to build up the top of the transom into an
arch with a laminated cap. Any input of successful solutions is
welcome. My email is below your post.
Thanks again.
Mark
On Jul 5, 2006, at 1:49 AM, 9buck crowley wrote:
> Mark
>
> I use a five horse honda four stroke. A great motor and no it doesnt
> fit in
> the standard opening. I could send you a picture of my solution which
> has
> worked out very well. I think it's a little more power than my boat
> needs.
> Mostly it runs the boat at close to hull speed at just above idle.
> We're I
> to do it again I would go for the 4hp Yamaha four stroke or even the
> 2.5hp
> to save weight in the end of the boat and to run the motor at a more
> optimal
> rpm.
>
> Buck
>
> >From: "bsdbatwing" <mark@...>
> >Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> >To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [bolger] Outboards for Micro
> >Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:49:07 -0000
> >
> >Hello Micro sailors,
> >What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it fit
> >in the standard transom opening?
> >Thanks,
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Hello Mark
Generally we use the 4hp 4 stroke Yamaha that the boat came with, but
it does not allow the motor to tilt up out of the water (standard
opening). A long shaft British Seagull Silver Century will tilt up OK
but the prop will still just skim the water. a 3.5 Tohatsu 2 stroke
fits OK but not so good when motoring into a good wind and against the
tide! 4 HP Yamaha is generally ideal (if it fitted opening and was a
short shaft!)
Greg F Micro, Matilda Jean
Generally we use the 4hp 4 stroke Yamaha that the boat came with, but
it does not allow the motor to tilt up out of the water (standard
opening). A long shaft British Seagull Silver Century will tilt up OK
but the prop will still just skim the water. a 3.5 Tohatsu 2 stroke
fits OK but not so good when motoring into a good wind and against the
tide! 4 HP Yamaha is generally ideal (if it fitted opening and was a
short shaft!)
Greg F Micro, Matilda Jean
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bsdbatwing" <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Micro sailors,
> What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it fit
> in the standard transom opening?
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
Mark,
I use a 1976 (approx) 4HP Evinrude 2 cyl longshaft ($200 AUD
fifthhand). Only minor mods needed to fit the "standard gap,
Cheers,
John
I use a 1976 (approx) 4HP Evinrude 2 cyl longshaft ($200 AUD
fifthhand). Only minor mods needed to fit the "standard gap,
Cheers,
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bsdbatwing" <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Micro sailors,
> What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it fit
> in the standard transom opening?
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
Mark
I use a five horse honda four stroke. A great motor and no it doesnt fit in
the standard opening. I could send you a picture of my solution which has
worked out very well. I think it's a little more power than my boat needs.
Mostly it runs the boat at close to hull speed at just above idle. We're I
to do it again I would go for the 4hp Yamaha four stroke or even the 2.5hp
to save weight in the end of the boat and to run the motor at a more optimal
rpm.
Buck
I use a five horse honda four stroke. A great motor and no it doesnt fit in
the standard opening. I could send you a picture of my solution which has
worked out very well. I think it's a little more power than my boat needs.
Mostly it runs the boat at close to hull speed at just above idle. We're I
to do it again I would go for the 4hp Yamaha four stroke or even the 2.5hp
to save weight in the end of the boat and to run the motor at a more optimal
rpm.
Buck
>From: "bsdbatwing" <mark@...>
>Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Outboards for Micro
>Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:49:07 -0000
>
>Hello Micro sailors,
>What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it fit
>in the standard transom opening?
>Thanks,
>Mark
>
>
>
>
Hello Micro sailors,
What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it fit
in the standard transom opening?
Thanks,
Mark
What size and brand of outboard do you use on your Micro? Does it fit
in the standard transom opening?
Thanks,
Mark