Re: Bolger commisions. Anybody seen any completed in the last 2 years?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
social, and economic fishing sustainability issues, and the
associated politics, at least as at Nov/Dec 2005. Their feedback
letter to E magazine:
"In all the recent discussion about commercial fishing, we note the
absence of any reference to the importance of vessel design itself
in terms of sustainability. In your articles, Rod Fujita comes close
and yet stops short.
At Phil Bolger and Friends, we have proposed since 2002 an
ecologically and economically advanced vessel. Based on a low-
horsepower, long, lean, unsinkable, offshore-capable geometry, this
could be built and maintained locallyusing mostly renewable
resourcesand would be highly fuel-efficient. By putting fishermen
in smaller, cheaper boats, they will be able to support themselves
catching fewer fish. The pressure to beat quotas will be reduced,
since fishermen won't have as much debt as they did with larger
boats.
Despite the inherent logic of this rather uncomplicated approach to
sustainability, we know of no institutions, organizations or
advocacy groups pursuing research along those lines. And the
Magnusson-Stevenson Act actually forces less sustainable fishing
boat designs in its codified incomprehension of basic naval
engineering. Put polemically, it classifies a 60-foot long, 600-
horsepower trawler the same way as a 60-foot, eight-oared rowing
shell!
Since 2002, we've offered our local fleet pro bono design proposals.
And even with state and federal R&D funding within reach, there's
been next to no interest. Everyone else seems to be preoccupied
cursing "eco-terrorists" and chanting for "more fish." In this
context, the Bush administration's ocean policies seem among the
smaller obstacles.
Susanne Altenburger Phil Bolger and Friends Gloucester, MA "
http://www.emagazine.com/view/?2916(third letter from top)
Here's a part of the interview of Rod Fujita (who didn't go far
enough):
"..Right now I'm engaged in various attempts to get the trawl sector
under control. Various scientific studies have shown that trawling
is quite a damaging way to harvest fish, but my take on it is that
it's really a logical manifestation of the way we manage our
fisheries. It's not that trawlers are by nature rapacious or greedy.
They're doing the rational thing when you examine the incentives
that they face. Nobody tells them what their share of the catch
ought to be. There's no incentive to conserve, obviously, because
any fish that they don't catch is going to be caught by somebody
else.
So it's kind of inevitable, really, that people will build bigger
and bigger boats and buy more boats and use bigger and bigger gear
that's more powerful to maximize their share of the catch. One
project that we're engaged in is trying to reform that system of
management so that the incentives to over-exploit the resources will
be replaced by incentives to conserve the resource.
What specifically needs to be done?
There's a couple of different ways we're working on that. One
project is to change the management regime to a system of catch
shares so that the fishermen receive a percentage of the allowable
catch and can plan their fishing business around that share in a
more rational way. They can get more money by catching fewer fish
and causing less damage to the habitat. "
http://www.emagazine.com/view/?2644
http://www.emagazine.com/?issue=94&toc
Graeme
>Looks as if PB&F are still much exercised by the environmental,
> The last 'big' design completed (that I can think of)
> is the low power 70'x14'x3' New England Fishing Vessel
> and from reading that article, SA appears to have played
> a large part in the design role.
social, and economic fishing sustainability issues, and the
associated politics, at least as at Nov/Dec 2005. Their feedback
letter to E magazine:
"In all the recent discussion about commercial fishing, we note the
absence of any reference to the importance of vessel design itself
in terms of sustainability. In your articles, Rod Fujita comes close
and yet stops short.
At Phil Bolger and Friends, we have proposed since 2002 an
ecologically and economically advanced vessel. Based on a low-
horsepower, long, lean, unsinkable, offshore-capable geometry, this
could be built and maintained locallyusing mostly renewable
resourcesand would be highly fuel-efficient. By putting fishermen
in smaller, cheaper boats, they will be able to support themselves
catching fewer fish. The pressure to beat quotas will be reduced,
since fishermen won't have as much debt as they did with larger
boats.
Despite the inherent logic of this rather uncomplicated approach to
sustainability, we know of no institutions, organizations or
advocacy groups pursuing research along those lines. And the
Magnusson-Stevenson Act actually forces less sustainable fishing
boat designs in its codified incomprehension of basic naval
engineering. Put polemically, it classifies a 60-foot long, 600-
horsepower trawler the same way as a 60-foot, eight-oared rowing
shell!
Since 2002, we've offered our local fleet pro bono design proposals.
And even with state and federal R&D funding within reach, there's
been next to no interest. Everyone else seems to be preoccupied
cursing "eco-terrorists" and chanting for "more fish." In this
context, the Bush administration's ocean policies seem among the
smaller obstacles.
Susanne Altenburger Phil Bolger and Friends Gloucester, MA "
http://www.emagazine.com/view/?2916(third letter from top)
Here's a part of the interview of Rod Fujita (who didn't go far
enough):
"..Right now I'm engaged in various attempts to get the trawl sector
under control. Various scientific studies have shown that trawling
is quite a damaging way to harvest fish, but my take on it is that
it's really a logical manifestation of the way we manage our
fisheries. It's not that trawlers are by nature rapacious or greedy.
They're doing the rational thing when you examine the incentives
that they face. Nobody tells them what their share of the catch
ought to be. There's no incentive to conserve, obviously, because
any fish that they don't catch is going to be caught by somebody
else.
So it's kind of inevitable, really, that people will build bigger
and bigger boats and buy more boats and use bigger and bigger gear
that's more powerful to maximize their share of the catch. One
project that we're engaged in is trying to reform that system of
management so that the incentives to over-exploit the resources will
be replaced by incentives to conserve the resource.
What specifically needs to be done?
There's a couple of different ways we're working on that. One
project is to change the management regime to a system of catch
shares so that the fishermen receive a percentage of the allowable
catch and can plan their fishing business around that share in a
more rational way. They can get more money by catching fewer fish
and causing less damage to the habitat. "
http://www.emagazine.com/view/?2644
http://www.emagazine.com/?issue=94&toc
Graeme
If I am not mistaken, Phil Bolger is nearing his 80th birthday plus or
minus a few weeks.
Does anybody know his exact birthday date? August ??, 1927
A parallel question is: Which was the last new commission he has undertaken?
Per my limited knowledge, he has declined all offers in the last couple years.
The last 'big' design completed (that I can think of)
is the low power 70'x14'x3' New England Fishing Vessel
and from reading that article, SA appears to have played
a large part in the design role.
In National Fisherman, Sept 2004 v85i5 p42(3)
http://www.gloucestermaritimecenter.org/pdfs/newsfa04.pdf
Or, was it that large Proa? Does anybody have the stats for that Proa
to put into the design database?
minus a few weeks.
Does anybody know his exact birthday date? August ??, 1927
A parallel question is: Which was the last new commission he has undertaken?
Per my limited knowledge, he has declined all offers in the last couple years.
The last 'big' design completed (that I can think of)
is the low power 70'x14'x3' New England Fishing Vessel
and from reading that article, SA appears to have played
a large part in the design role.
In National Fisherman, Sept 2004 v85i5 p42(3)
http://www.gloucestermaritimecenter.org/pdfs/newsfa04.pdf
Or, was it that large Proa? Does anybody have the stats for that Proa
to put into the design database?
On 8/4/06, donschultz8275 <donschultz@...> wrote:
>
> I've bought a set of Bolger plans which I knew were complete (Hawkeye)
> in the last year or so and received them promptly.
>
> But it seems to me I've not heard of anybody receiving completion of
> new work commisioned for over two years. Anybody gotten their work
> completed?
>
> My point/concern is that PB&F is no longer producing new work, and
> they are not prepared to share their status and likely future with
> their customers.
>
> Don Schultz
I've bought a set of Bolger plans which I knew were complete (Hawkeye)
in the last year or so and received them promptly.
But it seems to me I've not heard of anybody receiving completion of
new work commisioned for over two years. Anybody gotten their work
completed?
My point/concern is that PB&F is no longer producing new work, and
they are not prepared to share their status and likely future with
their customers.
Don Schultz
in the last year or so and received them promptly.
But it seems to me I've not heard of anybody receiving completion of
new work commisioned for over two years. Anybody gotten their work
completed?
My point/concern is that PB&F is no longer producing new work, and
they are not prepared to share their status and likely future with
their customers.
Don Schultz