Re: [bolger] Re: Great Sea
He was in town a couple of months ago, I got a bunch of pics. He decided
to go with an electric winch because of the frequent anchoring required
in chartering and has his ABI manual winch for sale if anybody is
interested.
HJ
Nels wrote:
to go with an electric winch because of the frequent anchoring required
in chartering and has his ABI manual winch for sale if anybody is
interested.
HJ
Nels wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
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>> Well there you go, I always thought Long Micro and AS 19 were the
>>
> same
>
>> thing. Now I am going to have to look up both.
>>
>> HJ
>>
>>
> Any recent news up in your area re: Great Sea?
>
>http://www.sailglacierbay.homestead.com/index.html
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
http://www.sailglacierbay.homestead.com/index.html
Nels
>same
> Well there you go, I always thought Long Micro and AS 19 were the
> thing. Now I am going to have to look up both.Any recent news up in your area re: Great Sea?
>
> HJ
>
http://www.sailglacierbay.homestead.com/index.html
Nels
Well there you go, I always thought Long Micro and AS 19 were the same
thing. Now I am going to have to look up both.
HJ
Nels wrote:
thing. Now I am going to have to look up both.
HJ
Nels wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
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>> Two lived on a modified AS 19 for a couple of years
>>
>>http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/zoon.htm#start
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>> HJ
>>
>>
> Actually that is a modified Long Micro with Leeboards.
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
Nels
>Actually that is a modified Long Micro with Leeboards.
> Two lived on a modified AS 19 for a couple of years
>
>http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/zoon.htm#start
>
> HJ
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Nels
Two lived on a modified AS 19 for a couple of years
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/zoon.htm#start
HJ
graeme19121984 wrote:
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/zoon.htm#start
HJ
graeme19121984 wrote:
> I'd be inclined to have the mainmast on a tabernacle, and so trailer
> and store the entire rig when struck within a bag (or tied on cover)
> resting on a crutch or gallows. This would make sailing preparation
> simpler and quicker, and the sail would store well this way -
> something like Jim Michalack proposes for his Fatcat2 design
>http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/fatcat2/index.htmThe gallows
> would also serve to support a shade cover for all that lovely, roomy
> deck space when moored.
>
> I'd be inclined to deck over the front and close off the bow, and
> gain flotation and storage space. The wide bow allows all the
> advantages PCB notes, and whether to leave it open or block it in is
> in the end I think down to whether you think the single advantage of
> swimmers reboarding easily through the bow as drawn is greater than
> the water it scoops up when under way. There are other ways swimmers
> can reboard - for a similar entry: even a swimming deck hinged from
> a closed in bow. (The guy from the expensive sugar scoop transomed
> boat who came over to have a look would say "Hey I've never seen a
> swimming platform up front before." Later, when sailing he'd maybe
> only get to see the AS19 from astern.)
>
> I don't know if PCB worked out ventilation for this boat - there is
> none shown in the cartoon. A method for through ventilation would
> make the cabin more comfortable, especially for two, and would help
> keep the inside dry when stored.
>
> Although PCB says there isn't much room in the cabin for two he has
> designed camp cruisers for two with no more and maybe less, eg
> Jinny. I think you could cruise this boat for some time and distance.
>
> AS19 fits the PCB definition of seaworthiness, ie the ability to
> keep the sea in all weather in resonable safety.
>
> Graeme
>
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Crockett <pcrockett@...>
> wrote:
>
>> You can read my account of sailing Mike Stockstill's Sharpie on an
>> inland lake athttp://www.ace.net.au/schooner/as19.htm
>>
>> On and off the trailer and rigging were no big deal -- about as
>>
> much
>
>> effort as any other 19-foot boat (with two masts). I met Mike at
>>
> the
>
>> lake, so I don't know how the boat towed on the highway, but I
>>
> wouldn't
>
>> imagine there were any issues beyond the windage. I enjoyed
>>
> sailing it.
>
>> Not a lot of effort required and it moved along nicely in a
>>
> moderate breeze.
>
>> It looks strange on the trailer. On the water it looks like a
>>
> sailing
>
>> barge. From the cockpit it looks like any other boat, feels stable.
>>
>> It looked to me like it would be non-trivial to build. Not
>>
> difficult,
>
>> just a lot of stuff to do.
>>
>> Patrick Crockett
>>
>> pdorc62 wrote:
>>
>>> I'm intrigued by the AS-19 (AS-29 being out of the question at
>>>
> his point). I find the looks
>
>>> of the boat somewhat off-putting, but maybe not. Form follows
>>>
> function? Sails
>
>>> exceptionally well? Easy (all relative) to build, trailer,
>>>
> rig? Roomy, safe, fast? Anyone?
>
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I'd be inclined to have the mainmast on a tabernacle, and so trailer
and store the entire rig when struck within a bag (or tied on cover)
resting on a crutch or gallows. This would make sailing preparation
simpler and quicker, and the sail would store well this way -
something like Jim Michalack proposes for his Fatcat2 design
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/fatcat2/index.htmThe gallows
would also serve to support a shade cover for all that lovely, roomy
deck space when moored.
I'd be inclined to deck over the front and close off the bow, and
gain flotation and storage space. The wide bow allows all the
advantages PCB notes, and whether to leave it open or block it in is
in the end I think down to whether you think the single advantage of
swimmers reboarding easily through the bow as drawn is greater than
the water it scoops up when under way. There are other ways swimmers
can reboard - for a similar entry: even a swimming deck hinged from
a closed in bow. (The guy from the expensive sugar scoop transomed
boat who came over to have a look would say "Hey I've never seen a
swimming platform up front before." Later, when sailing he'd maybe
only get to see the AS19 from astern.)
I don't know if PCB worked out ventilation for this boat - there is
none shown in the cartoon. A method for through ventilation would
make the cabin more comfortable, especially for two, and would help
keep the inside dry when stored.
Although PCB says there isn't much room in the cabin for two he has
designed camp cruisers for two with no more and maybe less, eg
Jinny. I think you could cruise this boat for some time and distance.
AS19 fits the PCB definition of seaworthiness, ie the ability to
keep the sea in all weather in resonable safety.
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Crockett <pcrockett@...>
wrote:
and store the entire rig when struck within a bag (or tied on cover)
resting on a crutch or gallows. This would make sailing preparation
simpler and quicker, and the sail would store well this way -
something like Jim Michalack proposes for his Fatcat2 design
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/fatcat2/index.htmThe gallows
would also serve to support a shade cover for all that lovely, roomy
deck space when moored.
I'd be inclined to deck over the front and close off the bow, and
gain flotation and storage space. The wide bow allows all the
advantages PCB notes, and whether to leave it open or block it in is
in the end I think down to whether you think the single advantage of
swimmers reboarding easily through the bow as drawn is greater than
the water it scoops up when under way. There are other ways swimmers
can reboard - for a similar entry: even a swimming deck hinged from
a closed in bow. (The guy from the expensive sugar scoop transomed
boat who came over to have a look would say "Hey I've never seen a
swimming platform up front before." Later, when sailing he'd maybe
only get to see the AS19 from astern.)
I don't know if PCB worked out ventilation for this boat - there is
none shown in the cartoon. A method for through ventilation would
make the cabin more comfortable, especially for two, and would help
keep the inside dry when stored.
Although PCB says there isn't much room in the cabin for two he has
designed camp cruisers for two with no more and maybe less, eg
Jinny. I think you could cruise this boat for some time and distance.
AS19 fits the PCB definition of seaworthiness, ie the ability to
keep the sea in all weather in resonable safety.
Graeme
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Crockett <pcrockett@...>
wrote:
>much
> You can read my account of sailing Mike Stockstill's Sharpie on an
> inland lake athttp://www.ace.net.au/schooner/as19.htm
>
> On and off the trailer and rigging were no big deal -- about as
> effort as any other 19-foot boat (with two masts). I met Mike atthe
> lake, so I don't know how the boat towed on the highway, but Iwouldn't
> imagine there were any issues beyond the windage. I enjoyedsailing it.
> Not a lot of effort required and it moved along nicely in amoderate breeze.
>sailing
> It looks strange on the trailer. On the water it looks like a
> barge. From the cockpit it looks like any other boat, feels stable.difficult,
>
> It looked to me like it would be non-trivial to build. Not
> just a lot of stuff to do.his point). I find the looks
>
> Patrick Crockett
>
> pdorc62 wrote:
> > I'm intrigued by the AS-19 (AS-29 being out of the question at
> > of the boat somewhat off-putting, but maybe not. Form followsfunction? Sails
> > exceptionally well? Easy (all relative) to build, trailer,rig? Roomy, safe, fast? Anyone?
> >flogging dead horses
> >
> >
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You can read my account of sailing Mike Stockstill's Sharpie on an
inland lake athttp://www.ace.net.au/schooner/as19.htm
On and off the trailer and rigging were no big deal -- about as much
effort as any other 19-foot boat (with two masts). I met Mike at the
lake, so I don't know how the boat towed on the highway, but I wouldn't
imagine there were any issues beyond the windage. I enjoyed sailing it.
Not a lot of effort required and it moved along nicely in a moderate breeze.
It looks strange on the trailer. On the water it looks like a sailing
barge. From the cockpit it looks like any other boat, feels stable.
It looked to me like it would be non-trivial to build. Not difficult,
just a lot of stuff to do.
Patrick Crockett
pdorc62 wrote:
inland lake athttp://www.ace.net.au/schooner/as19.htm
On and off the trailer and rigging were no big deal -- about as much
effort as any other 19-foot boat (with two masts). I met Mike at the
lake, so I don't know how the boat towed on the highway, but I wouldn't
imagine there were any issues beyond the windage. I enjoyed sailing it.
Not a lot of effort required and it moved along nicely in a moderate breeze.
It looks strange on the trailer. On the water it looks like a sailing
barge. From the cockpit it looks like any other boat, feels stable.
It looked to me like it would be non-trivial to build. Not difficult,
just a lot of stuff to do.
Patrick Crockett
pdorc62 wrote:
> I'm intrigued by the AS-19 (AS-29 being out of the question at his point). I find the looks
> of the boat somewhat off-putting, but maybe not. Form follows function? Sails
> exceptionally well? Easy (all relative) to build, trailer, rig? Roomy, safe, fast? Anyone?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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I'm intrigued by the AS-19 (AS-29 being out of the question at his point). I find the looks
of the boat somewhat off-putting, but maybe not. Form follows function? Sails
exceptionally well? Easy (all relative) to build, trailer, rig? Roomy, safe, fast? Anyone?
of the boat somewhat off-putting, but maybe not. Form follows function? Sails
exceptionally well? Easy (all relative) to build, trailer, rig? Roomy, safe, fast? Anyone?