Re: [bolger] Re: Dinghy Recommendation: Nymph and Pointy Skiff compared.
Tim Fatchen wrote:
Catalina 22 on Lake Champlain. I added an approx. 2 foot skeg to the rear,
to help it track straight.
Last weekend, I rowed myself, my wife and two small children (ages 5 and 2)
out to the moored sailboat (about 300 - 400 feet) in a 10 knot breeze, with
10 or 20 pounds of baggage, with 6 foot, homemade oars, without a problem.
Total weight was about 375 -400 pounds. The only change I will now make is
the installation of an additional set of oarlock sockets, placed about 8
inches ahead of the designed placement. This will allow me to row from a
position further forward and even out the weight distribution for our
particular needs.
I haven't towed her yet, but she rides so high when empty, I can't think it
would be a problem.
David
> <snip>My newly-constructed Elegant Punt has just begun service as a tender to my
>
> It occurs to me that the Elegant Punt, with its greater initial
> stability, might make a better tender without a change in overall
> dimension.
Catalina 22 on Lake Champlain. I added an approx. 2 foot skeg to the rear,
to help it track straight.
Last weekend, I rowed myself, my wife and two small children (ages 5 and 2)
out to the moored sailboat (about 300 - 400 feet) in a 10 knot breeze, with
10 or 20 pounds of baggage, with 6 foot, homemade oars, without a problem.
Total weight was about 375 -400 pounds. The only change I will now make is
the installation of an additional set of oarlock sockets, placed about 8
inches ahead of the designed placement. This will allow me to row from a
position further forward and even out the weight distribution for our
particular needs.
I haven't towed her yet, but she rides so high when empty, I can't think it
would be a problem.
David
I've used our standard Nymph as a tender for (blush) a houseboat --
pontoon boat-- in which we have a 1/48th share (double blush). Its
use in this role has always been on river, in protected water. As
all
suggest, the nymph tows extremely well (I know of one towed the 90
sea
miles from Adelaide to Kangaroo Island). She's a lovely rower, once
one adjusts to the short oars and stroke, smooth and effortless. It
carries two without any problems at all. but she's frisky.
Stepping in or out from a houseboat deck is fine, with two people to
hold her more or less steady. The problems arise when one poor soul
rows off up the river to pick up the paper and and some goodies, and
has to use a jetty rather than simply beach. Lowering the groceries
five feet down into the Nymph is OK, it's the lowering of the rower
that creates the interest along the waterfront. I've resorted to a
sort of spread-eagled collapse boarding routine, sorting legs, seat,
arms and torso out later.
It occurs to me that the Elegant Punt, with its greater initial
stability, might make a better tender without a change in overall
dimension.
Tim & Flying Tadpole
Light Schooner Website/Bolger Boats in the Web/SquareBoats!
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
pontoon boat-- in which we have a 1/48th share (double blush). Its
use in this role has always been on river, in protected water. As
all
suggest, the nymph tows extremely well (I know of one towed the 90
sea
miles from Adelaide to Kangaroo Island). She's a lovely rower, once
one adjusts to the short oars and stroke, smooth and effortless. It
carries two without any problems at all. but she's frisky.
Stepping in or out from a houseboat deck is fine, with two people to
hold her more or less steady. The problems arise when one poor soul
rows off up the river to pick up the paper and and some goodies, and
has to use a jetty rather than simply beach. Lowering the groceries
five feet down into the Nymph is OK, it's the lowering of the rower
that creates the interest along the waterfront. I've resorted to a
sort of spread-eagled collapse boarding routine, sorting legs, seat,
arms and torso out later.
It occurs to me that the Elegant Punt, with its greater initial
stability, might make a better tender without a change in overall
dimension.
Tim & Flying Tadpole
Light Schooner Website/Bolger Boats in the Web/SquareBoats!
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
correct,
You cannot haul the cartopper aboard, Nymph will fit on the deck
of a 24 footer. (We did it on a Rhodes 22). However, It is not too
complicated to make a cover for the cartopper. Putting on the cover
involves less work than hauling on board.
Good Luck
David Jost (Itching to get out of work today to bevel frames in
anticipation of setting up.)
You cannot haul the cartopper aboard, Nymph will fit on the deck
of a 24 footer. (We did it on a Rhodes 22). However, It is not too
complicated to make a cover for the cartopper. Putting on the cover
involves less work than hauling on board.
Good Luck
David Jost (Itching to get out of work today to bevel frames in
anticipation of setting up.)
>David wrote:in such a manner. Harold Payson sells plans
>Pointy Skiff does not tow well and is not suitable as a boat to be used
>for Cartopper. I thought that was a good compromise...I'm sure you are right, David: The flat bottomed Skiff probably slews
around a lot under tow and is in constant danger of filling. The
Cartopper shows PCB at his best minimalist elegance, I think. But aren't
these both too big for all but a pretty large cruiser's dinghy? Apart
from storage, in bad weather it must be important to haul it on board.
>Ed wrote:I've seen the picture of you looking very snug in that little boat, Ed.
> I built the prototype "Tween" back in 1997...
At 2 sheets of ply, according to the "Baloney Theory of Nautical Weight
Estimation & Rocketry" it must be only about 50#, huh? But I suddenly
register that Mark G. wants a dinghy to float 3 adults. Guess if I want
to see another Tween built, I'll have to do it myself.
>Jeff Gilbert wrote:"Argie 10.
>Dudley Dix has a great little sticth'n'glue 10 footer design... the
Only 64#. Good capacity and, "Suitable for use as a tender on larger
yachts." Here's the URL:
http://dixdesign.com/dinghies.htm
<Mark Goldberg wrote:
< I'm looking to build a dinghy for my sailboat.
In order to help we should know, how big's that sailboat? And is the
need for 3 adults essential?
BTW I like the Black Fly partly for the looks. It's genius to derive
that real Norwegian Pram visage so easily.
But for three adults, rather than, say, two and some groceries, maybe
Mark G. is on the right track about the Rueben's. Then again, looking
back through this list there was a thread about "nesting dinghies" and
"breakdown tenders" that might be relevant.
Mark (A.)